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Mr.Mann

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CASAA: New York State Call to Action When I look at some of these threads that have 1,000+ views or even the largest thread on the forum with almost 1,050,000 views, I can't help but to wonder would this even be an issue if just a small percentage of us would call or write a letter. After reading the CASAA website, I think I will forfeit a few juice purchases and throw them some support, as well as getting off my bootay and writing a letter. And when I get bored...I will just vape and dial! The numbers and the addresses are printed on that link. All of us here type and post quite often, why not type and post an email to a senator...that's gangsta!
 

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right on right on right on. i also was able to get some info from a seasoned veteran.

It's a two-step process. First, since the Tobacco Act did not include e-cigarettes (and several other tobacco products), the FDA would need to issue a "deeming" regulations stating that the Secretary deems e-cigarettes to be included in the products it will regulate under the Tobacco Act. There would then be a public comment period, after which the FDA would issue a final rule on which products it deems to be under its purview.

Second, the FDA could begin issuing draft regulations that affect e-cigarettes. Each proposed regulation must be posted on Regulations.gov and allow a public comment period. After that, the FDA would issue the final rule.

So what we are talking about is not a "ban" per se. However, the FDA could issue regulations that result in a de facto ban. For example, if they go forward with applying section 905(j) and announce that all e-cigarettes that were not on the market in February 2007 must be taken off the market, that would eliminate 510s, KR808s, eGos and similar devices, Mods, etc. That could not happen until the FDA first issued a deeming regulation, and second issued a specific regulation affecting e-cigs.

I have heard rumors that the FDA will issue the deeming regulation next month, but it could happen next week or it could happen many months from now.

The public comment period for each proposed rule or regulation is usually 60 days. It can take several months after the comments close for a government agency to issue a final rule. So the short answer is "not immediately" and the long answer is anybody's guess.
 

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When it comes to writting govt officials I have mixed opinions. If the right people compose letters, it can be a good thing. Correspondance has to be well thought, professional, objective and address concerns in a constructive matter.

Supporting CASAA seems like a great idea and Im all for it :thumbs:

I hear you on that...however, the old adage about strength in numbers is very true. Also, from what I can tell, the majority of posters on this forum are pretty dang well read and articulate. I don't know too many people that can't write very well that choose to write letters. I know there are some, but when a senator (or those that read their mail) receives a garbage bag full on one issue...I think the individual power of each letter will diminish under the weight of the collective!:2c:
 
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I hear you on that...however, the old adage about strength in numbers is very true. Also, from what I can tell, the majority of posters on this forum are pretty dang well read and articulate. I don't know too many people that can't write very well that choose to write letters. I know there are some, but when a senator (or those that read their mail) receives a garbage bag full on one issue...I think the individual power of each letter will diminish under the weight of the collective!:2c:
I would agree on all points and my faith increases as I think about the collective weight ;)
 

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OMG i still have stock from 2009 when i was scared about the FDA vs. NJOY federal case. i had enough unflavored 100mg nic juice to make a few liters. i know ive been away a while, but i should start stocking up again? yeesh.


and its funny that you quoted vocalek. i remember her when i used to come here all the time back then...
 

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My reaction:

WHAT MAKES THEM THINK THEY COULD TELL ADULT CITIZENS NOT TO VAPE?!?

IT'S NONE OF THEIR ********* BUSINESS IF WE DO OR IF WE DON'T! **** THEM!!! **** THEM MOST SINCERELY!!!!

They think we exist just to follow their rules and pay their salaries. I think they've got it backwards, and they'd better smarten up before we citizens decide there's way too much government interference in our lives and act to correct the situation.

We kicked out the British for much less, but we were fiercely dedicated to liberty back then. We need some of that spirit now.
 
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I wrote all of the Senators listed on the CASAA site. But my experience in contacting representatives (speaking from
former Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Awareness campaigns), is that the letters have the most impact when they come
from constituents in the representatives respective voting areas. We contacted Senators and Congress-persons all across the US trying to get an RSD Awareness month passed. The way we went about it was to try & create contact groups in the actual states that the representatives covered, and the groups contacted only that select group of representatives. Just my 2¢ worth.
It scares me the precedence that this bill could set if passed. Ecigs are what got me off analogs, as I am sure is the case for most here on ECF I don't want to lose this viable alternative to smoking analogs.
 

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What ban? The only thing I know of is whether the FDA will require smokeless tobacco manufacturers to spend money on research before they can truthfully claim that their products are less harmful than smoking: CASAA: CASAA's comment on FDA Draft Guidance for Modified Risk Tobacco Product Applications

Is there something else that I'm missing? We've all been buying vitamins and natural remedies for years, which always have the disclaimer that the product is not tested to cure or treat, etc...But the products are still available to anyone who believes they can help. An ejuice band couldn't happen unless tobacco itself becomes contraband - it's not an illegal plant, anyone can manufacture anything they want from it and sell it - the only thing up for debate is what they can legally claim it can do.
 

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Jplanet, the talk is of a proposed ban on internet sales of e-liquids.

You know, cause now they're "tobacco products," and FDA already banned internet sales of cigarettes long ago (when the Indian tribes were making a fortune selling cigs that way at below market rates, because they didn't have to pay state and federal taxes on tobacco).

The vile bastidges just won't LEAVE US ALONE.
 

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I wrote all of the Senators listed on the CASAA site. But my experience in contacting representatives (speaking from
former Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Awareness campaigns), is that the letters have the most impact when they come
from constituents in the representatives respective voting areas.

This is very true! I realized after my posts that it wouldn't make any sense to contact NY representatives because one of the first things they want to know is what district you are in. But, there are still ways to sound your voice in a manner that will be heard.
 
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