where did this not inhaleing thing come from?

[jp_cfc09]

everything I read says that nic is absorbed through the lungs, nose and mouth and everyone seems to say theres no point in inhaleing. is there studies proveing inhaleing is pointless? I cant get my head around it being pointless to inhale as it must provide nic to the lungs also, surely nothing like analogs cause its not smoke but still must as not inhaleing does nothing to me.

also people say to bring It into your mouth and breathe out your nose is enough, but to do this you are inhaleing the vapour. just not all of it stright into the lungs but still some is going to your lungs. are there proven studies showing the nic is absorbed better by the mouth and noise instead of the lungs? because to me its serious cliaming inhaleing isnt needed as its putting me off vapeing, if its not worth inhaleing and only useing your mouth and nose is needed then whats the point inhaleing. useing my mouth and nose does nothing and I inhale but ive up my nic to try and get off analogs all together but this info seems im wasteing inhaleing and I wouldnt vape just useing my mouth and nose.


ADMIN PLEASE CLOSE AND TRASH THIS, wish i never asked now to be honest

 

[Txaggiesaunt]

Using my nose and mouth has worked for me, but some people do inhale. I choose not to..I say whatever floats your boat and helps you get off the stinkies. Good luck and vape ON

 

[Truncheon]

do whatever feels best to you. but here is the explanation as to why it's not necessary to inhale:



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html

 

[redeyes24321]

Most people who use e cigs DO inhale. There have been threads stating that nic is absorbed best in mouth and nose cavities but WHO CARES? I inhale because that's what I am truly addicted to... I love the feeling of vapor in my lungs and I think its the only reason vaping worked as a smoke cessation device for me. If I was only addicted to the nic then the patches or gum would have worked. If inhaling is what works for you then do it!

 

[tj99959]

where did this not inhaling thing come from?

From someone who never smoked, of course

 

[chellemakepeace]

i inhale to my fullest! I love it.

 

[Steven_]

When people talk about taking it into the mouth then releasing threw the nose they are talking about a shallow inhale. The vapor is not going all the way into the lungs, unless you do a regular inhale and exhale through the nose. Thats why its called a shallow inhale,

You can also use your vapor device like a cigar. Its the same concept

I inhale the same as i did with a analog, But i just draw alot slower, same inhale and exhale though

 

[vjc0628]

When I was in the first 2 months off analog's I felt it was necessary to inhale to the lungs

Recently after reading a post someone mentioned that he no longer inhales

I noticed That I don't inhale most times either and hadn't really noticed kind of happened naturally

 

[floridaBMW]

People vape and don't inhale? I didn't even know that. I know some reviewers don't for the "cloud effect" but .... Eh, whatever keeps u off the nasty stuff is what it's about.

Ken

 

[NicoHolic]

Probably in part from some of us who've gotten big doses of nicotine from cigars and pipes, without inhaling into the lungs, for years.

 

[chit33]

I also inhale to the fullest and I have been off of the stinkies for 19 days. Does anyone have knowledge of any harmful effects from inhaling vapor?

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

do whatever feels best to you. but here is the explanation as to why it's not necessary to inhale:



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html

From that link:

"4. E-Cigarette vapor is a water-based mist and not smoke. This has two main consequences:
a. The droplet size in vapor is ten times the particulate size in smoke (10 microns vs 1 micron). This means that cigarette smoke penetrates far more deeply into the lungs, travelling deep into the smallest passageways. Vapor cannot go anywhere near as deep, and this means that nicotine is not available so easily from the lungs, and is obtained more slowly.
b. It is likely that just as much nicotine is absorbed by the mucous membranes in the mouth and nose as within the lungs. In fact for maximum nicotine delivery, all three need to be employed: mouth, lungs, nose - otherwise all the nicotine cannot be delivered."

That said, I always inhale, but only after a slow, deep draw and holding a second or two in the mouth. Holding the breath for another second or two, then exhaling slowly through the mouth and nose, gives me almost the same "buzz" I got from cigarette smoke.

I couldn't have quit without it.

 

[tj99959]

Or is it because they CAN'T inhale their sub ohm vape

 

[Lombaowski]

Most people who use e cigs DO inhale. There have been threads stating that nic is absorbed best in mouth and nose cavities but WHO CARES? I inhale because that's what I am truly addicted to... I love the feeling of vapor in my lungs and I think its the only reason vaping worked as a smoke cessation device for me. If I was only addicted to the nic then the patches or gum would have worked. If inhaling is what works for you then do it!

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I have tried to not inhale and it doesn't taste or feel like I think it should.

 

[mkbilbo]

everything I read says that nic is absorbed through the lungs, nose and mouth and everyone seems to say theres no point in inhaleing. is there studies proveing inhaleing is pointless? I cant get my head around it being pointless to inhale as it must provide nic to the lungs also, surely nothing like analogs cause its not smoke but still must as not inhaleing does nothing to me.

also people say to bring It into your mouth and breathe out your nose is enough, but to do this you are inhaleing the vapour. just not all of it stright into the lungs but still some is going to your lungs. are there proven studies showing the nic is absorbed better by the mouth and noise instead of the lungs? because to me its serious cliaming inhaleing isnt needed as its putting me off vapeing, if its not worth inhaleing and only useing your mouth and nose is needed then whats the point inhaleing. useing my mouth and nose does nothing and I inhale but ive up my nic to try and get off analogs all together but this info seems im wasteing inhaleing and I wouldnt vape just useing my mouth and nose.

Um...

because to me its serious cliaming inhaleing isnt needed as its putting me off vapeing

Why? Inhale anyway you like. What's posts on a web forum got to do with it?

Fact is, vapor droplets are around ten times bigger than smoke particles. Smoke delivers nic to the blood stream via the lungs with greater "efficiency" (also speed). Water droplets aren't going to fit as well into the very--as in microscopic--areas of the lungs where the gas exchanges take place. You will get some degree of extra nicotine pick up but no where near smoking levels.

Some of us, inhaling water into our lungs means coughing fits. And new folks often encounter this. Not to mention PG and/or VG can cause a "heavy" feeling in the chest or cause irritation in some. Given that water vapor isn't that great a carrier of nicotine in the lungs, an inhale more like a pipe or cigar makes sense. The membranes of the mouth and nasal passages are good at absorbing nicotine. Just not as fast as the lungs are with smoke. Obviously absorption via the mouth works for a lot of people or "chewing tobacco" wouldn't exist.

Inhale deep as you want. Is somebody making you inhale any particular way? I'm not clear what the problem is here...

 

[jp_cfc09]

That thread that was linked states all should be used, the lungs mouth and nose. It only states that MAYBE enough nic is absored, so does this mean there arnt any studies or proof about this and it's just a personal choice with no real evidence to which is better.

Inhaling seemed to work for me but I think I need more nic and have just got some 24mg to help. Just thought I was a noob inhaling and didn't want to do damage inhaling if its not necessary although I don't think I would stick to vapeing If I don't.

No ones making me do anything and I do inhale, it's just I want to know if there's proof behind this or just what some think. If there's proof I'll try without inhaling if not then ill inhale but at the end of the day I want to know. I always smoked cigars but got put off smokeing them near people because they had so much to say about inhaleing them. I just dont want the same to happen with these. theres proof how bad cigar smoke is im just looking what if any proof that inhaleing has no benefit as its not needed.

 

[sawlight]

A lot of times people have coughing fits if they directly inhale into the lungs, I have that issue myself, so we recommend drawing into your mouth, then inhaling into your lungs and exhaling out your nose. This helps keep your lungs from getting over whelmed with vapor right away.

 

[mkbilbo]

Most people who use e cigs DO inhale. There have been threads stating that nic is absorbed best in mouth and nose cavities but WHO CARES? I inhale because that's what I am truly addicted to... I love the feeling of vapor in my lungs and I think its the only reason vaping worked as a smoke cessation device for me. If I was only addicted to the nic then the patches or gum would have worked. If inhaling is what works for you then do it!

I'd be careful with anything starting out as, "Most vapers do..." Near as I can tell, everybody goes every which way and do whatever works for them.

People are different. You say:

I inhale because that's what I am truly addicted to...

Okay. Thing is, I'm addicted to nicotine. The gum did work. I went back to smoking because I quit the gum "as directed". Second time, it caused jaw pain and other mouth problems so I stopped using it. Before I found vaping, I was going to go get the gum and have another run at it. I fully intended to transfer my nicotine addiction to the gum. I do expect to quit nicotine any time in my remaining years on this planet.

In fact, my "back up plan" should the FDA go nuts on regulation is the gum. Zero nic vaping and the gum. I should be able to stay off cigs then.

Mine is a pretty straightforward nicotine addiction. I enjoyed smoking. I enjoy vaping. I freaking crave nicotine.

And clearly, a shallow inhale that does not involve drawing deliberately into the lungs works to deliver nicotine. Or I would have gone back to smoking ages ago.


This is the "New Members" section after all and a lot of people can't inhale vapor the way they're used to doing with smoke. I know my very, very first encounter with a disposable, I inhaled just like a cigarette and then tried coughing up a lung. My first thought was, "well this e-cig thing is crap".

I was driving home from picking up my regular carton and it wasn't my vehicle (borrowed, mine needed brake stuff). I couldn't smoke in it. So I just screwed around with the disposable. Puffing at it like a cigar because the taste was interesting.

Then forgot to light up a cig for hours. Nine hours actually. I know. I checked the receipt. It freaked me out to just "forget" to light up a cig.

Had I not accidentally discovered the "shallow" inhale, the disposable would have gone into the trash, I would not be here at ECF, and I would be smoking right now.

Can I deep inhale vapor now? Yeah. Do I do it? Nah. The shallow inhale is working and is more "tasty". For myself, why bother? Remember, a big part (perhaps the greater part in fact) of taste is smell. Exhaling via the nose yields extra flavor as well as extra nic. Lungs don't have taste buds.

But that's me. If a deep inhale into your lungs is what you like, go for it. If you "french inhale", have fun. If you vape standing on your head, try not to fall over. Whatever works, works.

Shrug?

 

[mkbilbo]

That thread that was linked states all should be used, the lungs mouth and nose. It only states that MAYBE enough nic is absored, so does this mean there arnt any studies or proof about this and it's just a personal choice with no real evidence to which is better.

Inhaling seemed to work for me but I think I need more nic and have just got some 24mg to help. Just thought I was a noob inhaling and didn't want to do damage inhaling if its not necessary although I don't think I would stick to vapeing If I don't.

No ones making me do anything and I do inhale, it's just I want to know if there's proof behind this or just what some think. If there's proof I'll try without inhaling if not then ill inhale but at the end of the day I want to know.

This whole "vape" thing is so new, there's not a lot of studies of any kind. What we have is the accumulated experience of long time vapers.

You want full on studies... write a grant proposal?

 

[BlueMoods]

The best argument for lung inhaling not to be required is the larger particle size of vapor compared to smoke - it's roughly 10 times bigger particles so, can't go as deep into your lungs as smoke did. Now nicotine is pretty easily absorbed through even your skin but mucous membranes as well ao, sure you absorb some if you ling inhale, but you can probably get as much by holding it in your mouth a few seconds and, letting it out your nose without ever inhaling it as well if you CHOoSE not to lung inhale.

See, key word there CHOOSE, it's your decision how you vape and if you inhale or not. We do offer those suggestions because for some, they find it harder to lung inhale vapor, and some do find that taking the time to hold it in their mouth, then let it out their nose satisfies their nic cravings better.

Personally I pull it into my mouth then take it into my lungs, same as I did smoke and, I let it out my mouth too, that's what works best for me but we are each individuals and, that might not work the best for anyone else. Most of us longer time vapers are aware of several methods that might work for any given person. We suggest what we think may help them based on the complaints they have.

You, OP, I'd suggest trying either holding it in your mouth then taking it to your lungs, or direct lung inhaling since that sounds like what feels best to you - that's fine, it works for you that way, so do it that way.