where did this not inhaleing thing come from?
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I said "not a lot". As in we're talking a new thing. As I understand it, the first patent taken out for a commercially viable device was filed around 2003 (ignoring the one in the 60s that didn't go anywhere). That would make the modern vaping era all of ten years old. Formal studies take time. They're not weekend projects.
Also, there's the issue of it's flat not possible to have a study of the long term effects of something that hasn't been around long term. Smoking has been studied over periods of decades. If you want to study vaping over, say, a 30 year period, you couldn't possibly be finished before 2033. Because, well, math.
Anyway, that's all I'm saying there. This is a new thing. If you want stacks of research papers, you're going to have to check back in a few decades. What we have now are some formal studies and a big, big batch of accumulated experience we call "ECF" (and other locales but ECF is the big one).
But if the OP wants a study comparing nicotine uptake of various inhale techniques, I think that'll take a grant proposal. I'm not aware of any such study having been done. You know, yet...
I don't think anybody's mad at anybody at this point. Maybe some of us took your post in a way you did not intend. Certainly if you think people "hate" you then you're taking posts in way I don't think anybody intends. Hey, it's a web forum. Not the real world. Don't worry about it.
Miscommunications happen on the Internet about six billion times a second. It happens.
(Shoot, you should see some of the flame wars I've touched off by accident over the years. Hoo boy. I mean screaming, cussing, shouting matches kinda things. I could tell stories believe me.)
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I inhaled deeply to lungs when I smoked for 35 years. I rarely inhale vapor to the lungs. I inhale through the mouth to the throat and exhale through the nose.
Dude, you want a real rush? I just plugged one nostril with a finger and stuck my drip tip into the other while holding down the power button on the Sigelei Zmax telescopic. Took a deep hit into one nostril. That's a rush, dude. My left eye is still watering.
Dude, you want a real rush? I just plugged one nostril with a finger and stuck my drip tip into the other while holding down the power button on the Sigelei Zmax telescopic. Took a deep hit into one nostril. That's a rush, dude. My left eye is still watering.
I never wanted a full debate or full studys, I never wanted to pull on anyones strings lol. I feel the hate just from people saying im blazing with 30mm connons or me comeing on hot. im new and I think many who are and see people saying they are wrong to inhale or your not ment to is confusing. it makes me and I dare say others to think we are doing it wrong even tho there is no right way. when people see experienced vapours advice they take it as law as what do we know we are only new, thats why I asked the question which I felt was stright forward but seems its not anything but that.
all I wanted was to know if there was a reason behind it just, for all I knew there was lots of research done on analogs nic intake that made it easy to imply it on ecigs and proof this. then im sitting thinking im class look at me inhaleing this and im getting off the cigs when I could just shallow inahle which is proven the better way and find out long term it was the right idea to find this out first. I know they are new but experienced people need to know that noobs havent a clue and start e igs to stop smokeing and listen to what they say as they have had the time to use and understand them.
I will try shallow inhale for a few days and see if it helps and let you know.
all I wanted was to know if there was a reason behind it just, for all I knew there was lots of research done on analogs nic intake that made it easy to imply it on ecigs and proof this. then im sitting thinking im class look at me inhaleing this and im getting off the cigs when I could just shallow inahle which is proven the better way and find out long term it was the right idea to find this out first. I know they are new but experienced people need to know that noobs havent a clue and start e igs to stop smokeing and listen to what they say as they have had the time to use and understand them.
I will try shallow inhale for a few days and see if it helps and let you know.
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To tell you the truth I was using 80/20 PG/VG when I started vaping and I found the vapor too harsh for enjoyable inhalation to the lungs. So, I bypassed the lungs. Later, I started using high percentage VG juice. I enjoy inhaling high VG to the lungs a lot but I've grown to like vaping without it most time.
I'm not sure what question the OP actually wants an answer for.
One aspect of not lung inhaling is many people new to vaping have an "insult to injury" problem when they first start. They are already in such a state that they are having multiple smoking induced coughing fits per day. Then they suck down a completely foreign substance - containing PG which a lot of people do find irritating - and the experience sends them into even worse coughing fits than they had from smoking. So at least to begin, lung inhaling is generally not recommended - otherwise some wouldn't even continue with vaping due to coughing fits.
As to nicotine absorption, in case you didn't notice vaping is not smoking. You should have noticed that you do not get bowled over by a few drags off an e-cig and get an instant buzz like you do from a cigarette. Smoking = smoke. Vaping = liquid vapor. You are inhaling two very different substances and even by scientific inference some conclusions about the difference in absorption can be drawn. In any event, the majority of the scientific testing done so far has focused on what is produced in vapor, not how the user absorbs it. Here's a place to look at what we know so far: Lab Reports: ecigarettes
Lung inhale, "cigar style" - do what works for you. But I don't think you are getting tons more nicotine from lung inhaling. One report even showed that harder draws off an e-cig don't produce more nicotine in the process. (But with a cigarette it does.)
One aspect of not lung inhaling is many people new to vaping have an "insult to injury" problem when they first start. They are already in such a state that they are having multiple smoking induced coughing fits per day. Then they suck down a completely foreign substance - containing PG which a lot of people do find irritating - and the experience sends them into even worse coughing fits than they had from smoking. So at least to begin, lung inhaling is generally not recommended - otherwise some wouldn't even continue with vaping due to coughing fits.
As to nicotine absorption, in case you didn't notice vaping is not smoking. You should have noticed that you do not get bowled over by a few drags off an e-cig and get an instant buzz like you do from a cigarette. Smoking = smoke. Vaping = liquid vapor. You are inhaling two very different substances and even by scientific inference some conclusions about the difference in absorption can be drawn. In any event, the majority of the scientific testing done so far has focused on what is produced in vapor, not how the user absorbs it. Here's a place to look at what we know so far: Lab Reports: ecigarettes
Lung inhale, "cigar style" - do what works for you. But I don't think you are getting tons more nicotine from lung inhaling. One report even showed that harder draws off an e-cig don't produce more nicotine in the process. (But with a cigarette it does.)
the second one lol, I understand the lung probelms and it being uncomfortable and near impossiable too. thanks for the info this was the kind of answer I wanted.
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