Where is vaping going?
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I noticed in one of his recent videos pbusardo saying he's not going to try and keep up with the cloud chasers any more. I don't recall him ever talking about mech mods. Have things reached a point where tootle puffers and cloud chasers have nothing in common?
Oh I don't know, I'm a tootle puffer that uses mech mods.
I do assume that you know that mech mods existed long before sub ohm vaping came into existence. (or regulated mods)
I'm sure the story about how mechs came to be would make a fascinating documentary. In the mean time almost all, if not all, of the injury accidents involve loose batteries with unprotected terminals or mech mods. A few days ago I watched the youtube interview with Mooch that touched on battery safety. I learned a few safety things I didn't know that were helpful to me and learned a few more unobvious ways to get into trouble with Li batteries that I didn't know I didn't know.
So I'm shopping for a battery powered hand drill. The sales clerk offers me a mech hand drill, meaning no protections for the battery pack. The clerk says, you need to be careful with this drill because if you over discharge the batteries they might overheat and burst and put you in the hospital and may be even injure people working around you. I might ask, why should i buy that hand drill instead of one with battery protections and he says, because the mech version is masculine and ballsy, it shows you are a rebel.
Call me old fashoined.
They are definitely different, maybe it was just the way some vendors were listing them what is the cloud reference about?
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I use box mods with pairs of 18650 batteries purely for the prolonged battery life.
Did use DL RTA's for a few months but wasn't getting any satisfaction.
Got drippers too but they don't see much action, can't be bothered with them !.
Got a few tube mods sitting around which i don't use either.
So at this moment in time i have a Russian 91% sitting on an IPV4. It has a 28g coil - 0.96ohm, and i just use 11.5 watts. The juice is D.I.Y 60 pg/40. Flavouring is 10%, made up of three quarters of a mil of Capella choc fudge brownie + quarter of a mil of Capella coconut. I use no sweetener at all. Honestly it's foul !.
I'm also using at the moment a Kayfun V4 on a Provari 2.5. For quite some time i was using a 1mm 32g coil. After a few months i realised the coil was too narrow, even when spaced, to prevent the wick from getting burnt far too soon. Battery life was great with this arrangement but i had to find a better solution. Minimum restistance for a Provari 2.5 is about 1.2ohm (i think). 28g wasn't going to do it because higher voltage and the ramp up time drains the battery. I decided to opt for 29g 3mm and still only use 3.7v. The coil is rigid and doesn't burn the wick. I use Capella Cappuccino with this device. Unsweetened, it aint great !.
I expect to continue using both of these arrangements permanently. The coils don't need changing out for months. In fact i won't be changing them at all until they pop. They get cleaned about every two days along with a wick replacement.
I'm thinking of tweeking the choc fudge and coconut by adding a little Cappuccino. Maybe lose the ability to recognise the flavours when vaped if i'm lucky. And if all goes well it will taste even more disgusting than it does now.
Sometimes when it's dark the choc fudge brownie coconut combo taste reminds me of what burning old holborn tasted like. I'm still working on it but have all the time in the world to devise a flavour combinatuion which would emulate the disgusting taste of burning tobacco.
To date no other flavourings i've tried leave me wanting more. And honestly !!, i don't go near tobacco at all.
Did use DL RTA's for a few months but wasn't getting any satisfaction.
Got drippers too but they don't see much action, can't be bothered with them !.
Got a few tube mods sitting around which i don't use either.
So at this moment in time i have a Russian 91% sitting on an IPV4. It has a 28g coil - 0.96ohm, and i just use 11.5 watts. The juice is D.I.Y 60 pg/40. Flavouring is 10%, made up of three quarters of a mil of Capella choc fudge brownie + quarter of a mil of Capella coconut. I use no sweetener at all. Honestly it's foul !.
I'm also using at the moment a Kayfun V4 on a Provari 2.5. For quite some time i was using a 1mm 32g coil. After a few months i realised the coil was too narrow, even when spaced, to prevent the wick from getting burnt far too soon. Battery life was great with this arrangement but i had to find a better solution. Minimum restistance for a Provari 2.5 is about 1.2ohm (i think). 28g wasn't going to do it because higher voltage and the ramp up time drains the battery. I decided to opt for 29g 3mm and still only use 3.7v. The coil is rigid and doesn't burn the wick. I use Capella Cappuccino with this device. Unsweetened, it aint great !.
I expect to continue using both of these arrangements permanently. The coils don't need changing out for months. In fact i won't be changing them at all until they pop. They get cleaned about every two days along with a wick replacement.
I'm thinking of tweeking the choc fudge and coconut by adding a little Cappuccino. Maybe lose the ability to recognise the flavours when vaped if i'm lucky. And if all goes well it will taste even more disgusting than it does now.
Sometimes when it's dark the choc fudge brownie coconut combo taste reminds me of what burning old holborn tasted like. I'm still working on it but have all the time in the world to devise a flavour combinatuion which would emulate the disgusting taste of burning tobacco.
To date no other flavourings i've tried leave me wanting more. And honestly !!, i don't go near tobacco at all.
I think Phil P is correct. The original purpose of inventing a non-tobacco vapor-producing device was to provide a safe alternative to cigarettes. Now, the "community" has transformed itself into something else. It seems the present objective is to produce massive clouds of vapor. Whether this provides a comfortable and satisfying smoking experience is essentially a non-issue. It also greatly increases the cost with no immediate material benefit.
It's been nearly 4 years since I quit cigarettes and started vaping. I am an unenlightened consumer and spent vast amounts of money on crap devices and accessories. I had to find what I liked by trial and error. Having finally found it, I now stick to it religiously.
However, I also cannot help but notice the striking difference between myself, who replaced cigarettes with a safe alternative, with those for whom vaping is more of a "social" experience. I have watched vapers engaged in a kind of bizarre "competition" to see who can produce the most fog. That's not a surprise, the shops seldom educate customers, they merely sell what people "think" they want. It is for this reason that I avoid vape shops and simply order supplies online. The local shops carry what is "trendy," which does not fulfill my needs.
Vaping liquid has similar perceptual issues. I'm sure there are many who would find a "banana raisin watermelon margarita" flavor most pleasant, but I am not one of them. I use a specific 555 liquid because it is the most enjoyable for me as my cigarette substitute.
Then again, perhaps "social vaping" is like "social drinking." Perhaps they know something I don't. So, just to try it, I recently purchased an Aspire iStick 5000mA battery and eLeaf atomizer.
My experience is in accord with some of those reported here: It is a fog machine. Yes, it works extremely well, but it's too cumbersome a device to serve as a cigarette substitute. If I close the air hole almost all the way, it produces satisfactory results, but I still look like a man sucking on a metal box.
Thus, I prefer my unobtrusive pen-style gear. It may not be state of the art, but it is comfortable, innocuous, convenient and keeps me happy and healthy.
When technology can produce a reliable 5000mA battery the size of a rifle cartridge, I'll probably buy one -- not because it's "in fashion" but simply because it will last longer.
It's been nearly 4 years since I quit cigarettes and started vaping. I am an unenlightened consumer and spent vast amounts of money on crap devices and accessories. I had to find what I liked by trial and error. Having finally found it, I now stick to it religiously.
However, I also cannot help but notice the striking difference between myself, who replaced cigarettes with a safe alternative, with those for whom vaping is more of a "social" experience. I have watched vapers engaged in a kind of bizarre "competition" to see who can produce the most fog. That's not a surprise, the shops seldom educate customers, they merely sell what people "think" they want. It is for this reason that I avoid vape shops and simply order supplies online. The local shops carry what is "trendy," which does not fulfill my needs.
Vaping liquid has similar perceptual issues. I'm sure there are many who would find a "banana raisin watermelon margarita" flavor most pleasant, but I am not one of them. I use a specific 555 liquid because it is the most enjoyable for me as my cigarette substitute.
Then again, perhaps "social vaping" is like "social drinking." Perhaps they know something I don't. So, just to try it, I recently purchased an Aspire iStick 5000mA battery and eLeaf atomizer.
My experience is in accord with some of those reported here: It is a fog machine. Yes, it works extremely well, but it's too cumbersome a device to serve as a cigarette substitute. If I close the air hole almost all the way, it produces satisfactory results, but I still look like a man sucking on a metal box.
Thus, I prefer my unobtrusive pen-style gear. It may not be state of the art, but it is comfortable, innocuous, convenient and keeps me happy and healthy.
When technology can produce a reliable 5000mA battery the size of a rifle cartridge, I'll probably buy one -- not because it's "in fashion" but simply because it will last longer.
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That inventory is only because gas is so cheap by historical standards.IfWhen we return to the days of $6 a gallon for gas (allowing for inflation) then the 4 cylinders and hybrids will be flying out the door and those SUVs and pickups will be sitting forlornly on some dock waiting to be shipped to the Middle East. Sorta like what may happen when even cheap vape juice goes up to $40 for a 30 ml bottle due to taxes and regulations. Then mtl will be cool again. Unless you mix your own of course.
lmao you cracked me up with that example... because here you will find more trucks/jeeps/baby SUVs(full sized suvs are definitely less common now, which is a shame, as an example glorified AWD minivan which the newer escapes are, don't have the clearance of my 08 baby truck styled version) than cars, for a simple reason and it's not because of the price of gas. where i live is rural and farm country, dealers, just like vape shops... are going to sell what people will buy in any given area. they are not going to stock many cars here, sure they will sell a few and will bring in what you ask for... but that's not what people want or need.
there are vapes out there for most types and new ones coming out that are more for moderating smaller clouds and "tootlepuffing", there are some really nice compact devices out there. i've tried a few and while they are not for me, since i am not MtL, i've had no problems recommending them for those who are and want to quit.
I try to buy a few a few of the best of everything. Have 2 Kayfun 5s, like them, and will buy 2 more.
Who knows what I will like 5 to 10 years from now and there might not be any availability.
I ordered 4 RX300s and 50 staggered staple fused claptons from Geek Vape, and 10 special coils from Advanced for Christmas though so there's that.
I don't vape with anyone so I have nothing to prove. I don't tootle puff because I like my nic. More vaporized 12mg particulate from my Twisted Messes Sqd RDA the better.
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Guess it depends on where you live.
There are vapors everywhere around here.
And clouds are blown quite frequently.
I see clouds coming out of cars all the time.
I see clouds coming out of people walking down the street.
They are really easy to spot.
Actually, it would be more accurate to say that they are hard to miss.
It is what it is.
But I guess what it is depends on where you live.
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They can both sling insults and make a spectacle of themselves between puffs.
So there's that.
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i see vaper everywhere in public. Outside of coarse. Indoor public vaping has been banned for years. I do remember seeing people doing it years ago.
Makes me wonder if people are tootle puffing in side at work because we are all high power vapers. Which means if they are and get caught they will get vaping banned. Oh the irony of them whining while shutting it down. Or maybe there just aren't any
Makes me wonder if people are tootle puffing in side at work because we are all high power vapers. Which means if they are and get caught they will get vaping banned. Oh the irony of them whining while shutting it down. Or maybe there just aren't any
Sorry, but I are one
This is what I vape 24/7
They have 1.8-2.0 ohm coils in them, so roughly 8 watts. And I get all the flavor, throat hit, and vapor that I want.
There are plenty of others that vape like or similarly.
CDC vyWe're everywhere, stealth vaping right next to you...
Great!!
At work they already said they catch anyone with an ecig they will ban it on site.
I love it when people can't follow simple rules and everyone suffers.
Blanket party waiting for them that's for surev
My experience so far, what really is banned is visible devices and visible vapor and may be detectable odor. Eliminate those and most people don't notice vaping and if they see you going through the motions but don't see anything else they don't react. (How can we be sure he pressed the fire button?) That's the way things are working out in the shop where I work. That's the way it worked for 2 long sits at airport gates over chriistmas including Newark Liberty and the way it worked in the Federal court house in Detroit last Spring for jury duty (in the jury room). Part of the hobby for me now is Vape-Where-No-Man-Has-Vaped-Before (and don't get called out).
It's simple where I work. We are only allowed to have company issued items plas a wedding band on us. So just being seen with a mod is enough. They don't frisk us we have had trouble with stealth capers in the past. Everyone thinks there juice doesn't smell but they are wrong
Wow, strict. Nothing like that in my place. We supply our own hand tools and have roll arounds. I listen to music on my phone. Losing that would be a drag. What, do you build F-35's?
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