I need help (quitting cig. & vaping)
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If your doing sub-ohm with the Kanger .5 ohm..... you should be using a 80vg 20pg mix and You should not really go over a 6mg strength,,, I use 3mg and that is plenty of nic..... remember you are getting 5 to 6 times the vapor...... it makes your 3mg hit you like 18mg
When I went to quit smoking I did a simple little thing. I left my smokes in my car. I told myself I could smoke all I wanted as often as I wanted. I just had to walk out to the car to get them. Yet I could vape all I wanted to also. Within four days I dropped a 40 year 2-3 pack a day habit.
A buddy of mine is trying to quit. He smokes around 2 packs a day so I set him up with an Ego battery and a couple tanks and gave him some 18 mg juice that he likes. Told him the same thing, leave his smokes in his truck. he can smoke all he wants whenever he wants, he just has to walk out to his truck to get them. Saturday was day one for him and he smoked a total of 12 cigs when I talked to him. Yesterday, Sunday when I talked to him at the same time, he had only 4 cigarettes the whole day. Said he didnt even want a cigarette because vaping satisfies his urge.
Something like that might help you quit the cigs Tattooer.
Hello 
don't know if this helps any... my wife tries my subtank mini from time to time and even with the 1.2 coils finds it a bit rough and the crackle and pop freaks her out. She found the provari 2.5 at 4 volts with the nautilus 1.8 ohm coils to be a lot easier to handle.
I have a couple of the kayfun lites now and like them also, definitley not going to fog up the room on around 1.5 ohms
I do like my subtank mini with the 1.2 but it is a powerful wee beast.
Good luck and all the best!
don't know if this helps any... my wife tries my subtank mini from time to time and even with the 1.2 coils finds it a bit rough and the crackle and pop freaks her out. She found the provari 2.5 at 4 volts with the nautilus 1.8 ohm coils to be a lot easier to handle. I have a couple of the kayfun lites now and like them also, definitley not going to fog up the room on around 1.5 ohms
I do like my subtank mini with the 1.2 but it is a powerful wee beast.
Good luck and all the best!
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I have a couple of the kayfun lites now and like them also, definitley not going to fog up the room on around 1.5 ohms
I do like my subtank mini with the 1.2 but it is a powerful wee beast.
Good luck and all the best!
After I picked up a subtank mini my kayfun lites and V4's and lemo's dont get any love any more lol
Give yours a try at .5 ohms with the air flow wide open and at 20 watts...and fog away!!!!!
Lol @chopdoc too true! I keep having to stress i am still spending less than the ild camels.
I have an atlantis doing 0.5 on my hex ohm, use that with the 3mg juice and higher vg stuff for the late hours... And boy does my man cave fog up, delicious though.
I wish i had known about the sub ohm needing low nic early on, wasted a couple of bottles of charlie noble that way. Oh well, i have more raspberry ripple and pb cereal coming in 3mg this week... going to fog the heck out of it!
I have an atlantis doing 0.5 on my hex ohm, use that with the 3mg juice and higher vg stuff for the late hours... And boy does my man cave fog up, delicious though.
I wish i had known about the sub ohm needing low nic early on, wasted a couple of bottles of charlie noble that way. Oh well, i have more raspberry ripple and pb cereal coming in 3mg this week... going to fog the heck out of it!
Yaknow maybe its just me & I'm new to the newer generation Vape gear.
It's just that some of the younger guys I see inside stores are fogging down isles at local grocery stores & malls.
I suppose this is just me but it's gonna be fairly easy to ban vaping if some of these newer young vapers don't get a lil better with manners/ tact.
This was my basis for mentioning the fog machine effect, I want to be certain I could alter the device/ coil resistance to lower the vapor production,but still enjoy the nicotine.
The Atlantis is surprisingly weaker than the sub tank, I get a few eliquids in the mail today & hope I enjoy them,thank you everyone for the help.
It's just that some of the younger guys I see inside stores are fogging down isles at local grocery stores & malls.
I suppose this is just me but it's gonna be fairly easy to ban vaping if some of these newer young vapers don't get a lil better with manners/ tact.
This was my basis for mentioning the fog machine effect, I want to be certain I could alter the device/ coil resistance to lower the vapor production,but still enjoy the nicotine.
The Atlantis is surprisingly weaker than the sub tank, I get a few eliquids in the mail today & hope I enjoy them,thank you everyone for the help.
Vaping bothered my throat more than cigs at first, until after about 2 months of half the smokes, and it wasn't until cutting way down it got better than before. This was with low power devices.
Try some smaller, low power devices, just not the crap you were using before, you might be surprised (I'm a juice fiend so I need several tanks anyway), to me the flavor is better. I haven't tried a Kayfun yet but most rebuildables are too large for flavor without clouds, fiddly tiny coils are key and not normally rebuildable. The important thing is not to start with the best gear, just not annoying, but have plenty of more things to try as needed instead of getting bored with it. Some people have said the lung hit of higher power was key to quitting smokes, but they aren't older heavy smokers.
Try some smaller, low power devices, just not the crap you were using before, you might be surprised (I'm a juice fiend so I need several tanks anyway), to me the flavor is better. I haven't tried a Kayfun yet but most rebuildables are too large for flavor without clouds, fiddly tiny coils are key and not normally rebuildable. The important thing is not to start with the best gear, just not annoying, but have plenty of more things to try as needed instead of getting bored with it. Some people have said the lung hit of higher power was key to quitting smokes, but they aren't older heavy smokers.
I believe we all should be responsible vapors and fogging out a grocery store aisle isnt my definition of being responsible. With all the negative publicity on vaping from the haters, irresponsible vaping doesnt do our community any favors.
Glad you found something that works for you Tattooer and in a few months or so you should be able to start using the subtank mini you have.
I agree, it's really younger people , the kind that didn't quit smoking to Vape.
It's almost like a hipster movment/ trend type thing.
No matter what you enjoy in life,we must always be considerate of others who are trying to enjoy their life.
I gotta say the new gear is MUCH better than that first generation gear, what a difference.
I'll get a custom to the newer gear & adjust, in my process I'll never be disrespectful to others,it's bad enough here that I can see vaping being banned in public soon.
Thanks for all the help,I've been having better luck with the sub tank, I really like it now that I filed out the juice channels in the rba section, no more dry hits.
I'm not having that cough at the end of the drag now,kinda cool.
Down to half the cigarette habit since I'm getting more accustomed to the sub tank.
could the cough be reminants from smoking?... I find PG makes me cough more than VG.. I also do 36 nic 100VG so I get my nic and dont need volumes of vapor to get it either, so there is minimal clouding going on...
You'll know you've got it right when you forget to smoke. I suppose I had the "good fortune" to start vaping when the products available were a lot less capable. So there was never much risk with starting out with too much. That said, it took several months to figure out the best way to get a satisfying vape, and at least that long to find a flavor that really hit the spot to make me forget about going for a Camel filter.
I smoked those for 30 yrs. Back to the less capable vape gear, it took 36mg nic to get me to where I didn't need to smoke. Now, with better gear, I get the same satisfaction with 26mg. My vaping is a smoking substitute, not a hobby. So I really chase after low maintenance, not showy clouds or bling bling gear. I change my battery and fill my RBA tank once a day. I probably have to re-wick it 3 or 4 times a year, and maybe wind a new coil once a year, if that.
My own sweet spot is 50/50 26mg in a KFL+ at about 7-8W. I'm sensitive to the harshness and chemical taste of PG and just can't use anything more than 70% PG. Higher nic puts more "bite" in the vapor, but not near as much as high PG content IMO. 50/50 still gets me a good flavor and a tasty vape, while still wicking well enough not to be a problem.
I smoked those for 30 yrs. Back to the less capable vape gear, it took 36mg nic to get me to where I didn't need to smoke. Now, with better gear, I get the same satisfaction with 26mg. My vaping is a smoking substitute, not a hobby. So I really chase after low maintenance, not showy clouds or bling bling gear. I change my battery and fill my RBA tank once a day. I probably have to re-wick it 3 or 4 times a year, and maybe wind a new coil once a year, if that.
My own sweet spot is 50/50 26mg in a KFL+ at about 7-8W. I'm sensitive to the harshness and chemical taste of PG and just can't use anything more than 70% PG. Higher nic puts more "bite" in the vapor, but not near as much as high PG content IMO. 50/50 still gets me a good flavor and a tasty vape, while still wicking well enough not to be a problem.
Higher nic does add bite to a flavored liquid, I'll be making my own by next week.
I ordered a few flavors from a well know supplier & am vaping past the steeping process, as I don't want to halt my effort at smoking cessation for subtle flavor development, I've been scheming on microwaving them to make them a lil better.
These are decent I only got 3 flavors until my flavor & nic & vg comes in the mail early next week.
I'm not sure if the 18mg nic is the peppery taste or if they use low quality nicotine, either way their ok, I remember my dit liquid being better.
Anyhow down from close to 3 pls a day to one & a decent amount of this 18mg liquid.
Chugging along.
By the way what's KFL? Kayfun light...I'm guessing here.
Ma y people brag on the flavor potential of the Kayfun,I'm unsure if this is old bragging or they aren't mentioned because their not the latest greatest piece of braggably gear,any insight? Thanks again
Kayfun Lite Plus. I bought it two years ago, I think they're up to a v4 model now. It's been out long enough that really good quality clones are plentiful. At the time I bought mine, that wasn't the case. Lots of clones had come out, but also a lot of mostly minor issues being reported. I run a trucking business and also drive. Fiddling with vape gear is a bigger problem for me than most others, so I sprang for the tried and proven oem, versus paying about 1/3 for a clone.
As to bragging or not, it depends on whether you are a vape connoisseur or not. I'm not. It's not that I have a lame tongue or something, my tastes are just not that complicated and finicky. I had been using (actually putting up with) a rotation of ViviNova tanks for the longest. When I started looking for something newer/better, I tried out some bottom feed tanks. I concluded that they worked a lot better for flavor and vape quality, but still having to mess with them more than I'd like. I (correctly) guessed that was mainly due to buying cheap, throw-away tank kits. A bit of interest in rebuildables led me to either a KFL or Russian. A local vape shop had the oem Kayfun in stock so I went by to put my hands on it, and ended up buying it right there for about $110.
I've been using this stuff for five years. There really isn't a miracle kit out there, despite the claims. Just variations in size, shape, and window dressing. Once you figure out how to make this stuff go, you can get a satisfying vape dripping into a regular 510 atty attached to an eGo battery. What I like about the rebuildable tank setups are a simple design, ample liquid capacity, and so far dead reliable while requiring nearly zero tinkering. I'll admit that it did take about a dozen coil builds and wick changes to get proficient at it, but that's about it.
High nic does have a peppery taste. I hardly notice it because that's all I've done and for so long. Quality ingredients do make for a "cleaner" taste (IMO), and I've heard the positive reports of that by the DIY bunch. I still use store bought juice as I don't have the time or patience for DIY at the moment. I found a local shop that sells two flavors I really like, and that's all I buy. A $53 order about every 5-6 weeks. What's funny is that I still order on their website and get it in the mail, even though they just opened a new location about 5 minutes away. I've been meaning to go over there and see if they have any new flavors worthy of expanding my vast two flavor selection LOL.
Looking back, you'll be way ahead of the game with your DIY juice order. You'll be able to mix much smaller trials for a fraction of the time and price than I ever did. The year I spent ordering samples and 10ml sizes to try stuff I thought I might like, you can do in way less time right at home. You ought to be able to zero in on something that hits the spot relatively quickly.
Thanks a ton.
I know from long ago diy is 10% the cost so I've gotta be selective & save money.
Making my own smokes only cost a dollar a pack so I'm doing the ecig thing to quit smoking for health & all more so than anything.
I'll be looking at the Kayfun, thanks for the idea & help.
I'm getting used to the Kanger tank now,it's just better design for building coils & keeping cost down.
I do however need to figure a better wicking teqnique fo max vg liquid in tanks.
I realized yesterday that more power at .5 ohms made the Vape warmer & nicer to me.
still learning & trying to keep an eye on the cigarette habit and not stress myself for nothing over the cigarettes, I'm smoking less daily as I get better at using the ecig.
Thanks for you help
You're welcome. When I first got started vaping, I was working from a home office. What made the shift to vaping easier for me was making smoking less convenient. What helped is that I stopped smoking indoors years before.
So I had my vape gear, ready to go, sitting on the desk right in front of me. Pick that up, not interrupt my work, simple. Not quite as satisfying as tobacco, but close enough most of the time. Or, I could do the smoking ritual: walk to my bedroom, get a cig and my lighter, walk outside for 5 minutes and smoke it, then come back in, wash hands, put the lighter away, and back to work.
I never denied myself a real one. Just made it less convenient. Over time, I was getting better at using the vape gear, and approaching the right flavor/mix/nic combo with my juice. As that progressed, my trips outside to smoke became fewer and farther between. After several months, I was sitting at my desk reaching for the vape one day. And it dawned on me that I hadn't been outside to smoke in three days.
I had simply forgotten about smoking. That's when I knew I'd accomplished something. It did take a tiny bit of will power to keep that streak going. And I did have a few more smokes after that. After the last few, I didn't enjoy them while smoking, literally felt hung over afterward, and really noticed the stink on me when I returned inside. That was the final nudge to stop smoking altogether.
You didn't pick up that 3 pack a day habit overnight, so don't be too hard on yourself about quitting it real fast.
Making smoking not so convenient makes great sence .
I've gotta get another mod & rda or rta, for a extra/ backup Vape gear....
I noticed the convince issue with smoking is tough,so my sub tank will need some maintenance,so I'm smoking a cigarette & wish I was vaping instead.
So another setup is needed for backup.
I've considered a few clone rda's just to have a few ready to Vape if I have a issue with gear, because as of now I smoke when my stuff needs working on.
Great idea
I've gotta get another mod & rda or rta, for a extra/ backup Vape gear....
I noticed the convince issue with smoking is tough,so my sub tank will need some maintenance,so I'm smoking a cigarette & wish I was vaping instead.
So another setup is needed for backup.
I've considered a few clone rda's just to have a few ready to Vape if I have a issue with gear, because as of now I smoke when my stuff needs working on.
Great idea
Cigs and tobacco come with cough suppressants added. E-liquids don't. Throat hit from PG is different of that u getting from tobacco.
I used to smoke some heavy RYO, but first puff on my first e-cig...sheesh...thank goodness i was barefoot, so the toenails had room to flip up ...
Took me about two days to get the hang of how vaping handles and 'feels' differently from smokin'. Could go faster or take longer. Guess its about as unique as every vaper/vaperesse ...
Up the ohmage, up the the PG, up the nic , barely discernible wisps, dissipating quickly. Leanr stelth vapin on top of that and you walk through a room full with ANTZ armed to their teeth unharmed .. and vaping
I used to smoke some heavy RYO, but first puff on my first e-cig...sheesh...thank goodness i was barefoot, so the toenails had room to flip up ...
Took me about two days to get the hang of how vaping handles and 'feels' differently from smokin'. Could go faster or take longer. Guess its about as unique as every vaper/vaperesse ...
Up the ohmage, up the the PG, up the nic , barely discernible wisps, dissipating quickly. Leanr stelth vapin on top of that and you walk through a room full with ANTZ armed to their teeth unharmed .. and vaping
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