Where to get Marlboro, 555, Tobacco Flavoring ...

[CaSHMeRe]

Hey Guys ...

All these manufacturers have "tobacco" flavored cartridges, now, where do they get the flavoring for those cartridges?

More importantly, where do they get flavors that taste like that of Premium Brand smokes? Is it all just chemicals mixed in a lab or do they literally take tobacco extracts and make themselves.

I have scoured the internet for Liquid Flavors/Extracts of tobacco, and this is the only thing I have stumbled upon ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Indian-Tobacco-4oz- ... 18Q2el1247

I would love to find a source of Tobacco Flavoring ... Mix it with some PG, and have a grand ole time ...

 

[TropicalBob]

Spirulina has been around a long time. Don't smoke it. It's not tobacco.

To get flavor, something has absorb the essence of a substance. Often that something is oil, but that won't do for us. Water gets some nicotine, but very little flavor seems to me. So what I'm getting ready to do is cook some pipe tobacco in vegetable glycerine. My hope is the glycerine will absorb both the tobacco flavor and the nicotine. I'll post back on how it works out. In the past, I've "cooked" the tobacco covered in water. This time, I'll cover only with glycerine.

After that, I plan to stick a vanilla bean in a bottle of glycerine and just leave it there. Instant vanilla flavored glycerine for vaporizing.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

TB ...

i would cook my own, however, the only "NIC LESS" tobacco is that of quest cigarettes. If I found a pipe tobacco or canned that had no nicotine, I would cook it like you. These factories in china can get the tobacco flavor even in their ZERO nic carts. My question is how? and where do they get it? can't be an oil, and it doesn't contain nicotine ....

i don't want to buy expensive quest cigs just to tear apart and cook for the tobacco flavor.

 

[TropicalBob]

I agree. We can only guess they use very sophisticated lab equipment that isn't available to us. The problem: Extract tobacco essense, subtract nicotine content. Gotcha.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I agree. We can only guess they use very sophisticated lab equipment that isn't available to us. The problem: Extract tobacco essense, subtract nicotine content. Gotcha.

exactly ... lol ...

I mean, if they can extract flavors of every other substance (coffee, strawberry, hazlenut ... bickfords ...) why can't they do the same with tobacco?

 

[bishybob]

I found a listing of some patents from Google that show how to extract tobacco essence... I didn't read through very many of them but some look promising...

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5235992.html

Also try searching for "tobacco essence" at http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html

They have a lot of patent listings for tobacco companies and how they extract tobacco essences to spray onto the material they put in their cigarettes.

I bet if we looked hard enough we could find the patented process the e-cig companies use to put tobacco flavors in their cartridges.

Here's a summary of one of the patents:

It has now been discovered that flavorful and aromatic substances can be produced from tobacco materials previously thought to have little commercial value, for example, tobacco dust from the cigarette manufacturing process, without having to first perform extraction procedures on the materials. Other sources of tobacco dust can be used, such as finely ground tobacco leaves and stems. The flavorful and aromatic substances produced by the invention described herein possess aromatic qualities, total volatile profiles and individual volatile component profiles that are comparable to flavorful and aromatic substances obtained from the more time-consuming and resource-intensive extraction/heat treatment methods of the prior art.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

excellent find bishy ...

gonna have a look at them tomorrow. something to make my day at work soooo much more enjoyable!

thanks!

 

[TropicalBob]

Flavor, taste, is what I'm after. With home brew, the nicotine content is simply a non-issue for me, as I can mix my liquid with inexpensive E-Liquid of known nicotine level. What I'd like in homebrew is a liquid that vaporizes and leaves the aftertaste of a specific tobacco product -- in my case, fine pipe tobacco. And we really don't want tobacco taste: Just chew a wad and you'll discover how bitter and foul tobacco is from a taste standpoint! We want "tobacco smoke" taste. Fine tobacco smoke smells and tastes good. Aroma and taste. Elusive things.