Where to order Snus?

[tattooed]

So this PACT act as apparently screwed things up for mail order tobacco or at least making things incredibly expensive. I've checked a couple sites shipping direct from Sweden and the standard shipping cost for just one can ( I just wanted to see the base rate) was about $31. Northerner was about $19.

Anything cheaper out there?

I've been buying General stuff from a local shop but I'm getting very curious as to what else is out there.

 

[hittman]

Well as far as I know getsnus/northerner is the only place in the U.S. to buy. The shipping is alot higher now since the PACT act came into effect. Northerner/ getsnus was offering free shipping on thirty cans or more. I took advantage of that to rebuild some of my stock. They were also offering two free cans for buying five of each type of general snus.

 

[AllCoExPat]

I haven't ordered since PACT kicked in, but getsnus/northerner does seem to be the only game in town unless you've got a local tobacco shop that will order for you. I'm still trying to work through some of my "less favorite" snus before hitting another order. Wish I'd have known three months ago that it would be Mint and Wintergreen that I would really crave. Wouldn't have spent so much time and $ stocking a variety.

 

[Stubby]

The other place to order besides getsnus/northerner is snus central which is the same as buy snus

SnusCentral.org - Your Source For Everything Snus

Buy Snus, Order Swedish snus online world wide - BuySnus.com

Since the PACT act kicked in it no longer makes sense to make small orders. Shipping is high but doesn't go up much for larger orders. You pay only sightly more for 50 cans as you do for 1. Best to make large orders. I'm still stocked for at least a year but when I do order it's going to be a large order and likely no more then twice a year.

It does make it a lot more difficult for new snusers who are still getting there snus legs and trying a bunch of different brands. Wouldn't quite know how to approach it. Perhaps get a roll of the snuses you know you like and then one or two cans of everything you want to try. You could easily hit 30 or 40 cans.

 

[tattooed]

It does make it a lot more difficult for new snusers who are still getting there snus legs and trying a bunch of different brands. Wouldn't quite know how to approach it. Perhaps get a roll of the snuses you know you like and then one or two cans of everything you want to try. You could easily hit 30 or 40 cans.

Exactly. I hear good enough things about General that I'm fine with the thought of just buying local and I could live with what I can get here but I'd love to try some new snus.

I guess I'll eventually just have to suck it up and make a big order and freeze most of it, since I don't use it very fast.

How does freezing it work? Do you wait until the expiration date approaches before freezing? Does it need to defrost? Do you date it and tack on the months in freeze as good months added to the expiration date?

Yup, I'm a noob.

 

[AllCoExPat]

How does freezing it work? Do you wait until the expiration date approaches before freezing? Does it need to defrost? Do you date it and tack on the months in freeze as good months added to the expiration date?

Yup, I'm a noob.

My big orders went in the freezer as soon as I got them. Originally, just used some big freezer bags with as much of the air pushed out of them as possible. I've repackaged some of my stockpile for longer term storage with a vacuum sealer now, though. I've been using stuff several months past its experation date with no ill effects or decrease in taste/nic that I can tell.

When I know I'm running low on one of my regular cans, I try to take a few out of the freezer and let them defrost in the fridge. When I forget to do that, I've gone directly from the freezer to my briefcase with no problems. From what I can tell the shelf-life on frozen snus is pretty good. A while back I think I remember some discussion of freezing extending the life of the product by as much as 1-2 years. With what I have in the freezer, I'm sure I'll put that to the test, at least on some of the brands I don't use as often.

 

[VaporMadness]

WTF is this PACT crap? I haven't found a good local "smoke" shop that sells real snus yet.

USPS - Cigarette & Smokeless Tobacco Mailings

Why: These new rules result from the enactment of the Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking (PACT) Act, which was signed by the President on March 31, 2010. The Act provides that cigarettes and smokeless tobacco will become nonmailable matter effective June 29, 2010.

Note: these rules do not apply to cigars, which continue to be mailable matter.

I guess too many people circumventing local/state taxes applied to these "sinful" products?

 

[VaporMadness]

Ah ha... looks like a couple of places not too far away have general snus on the menu.

* Hemingway Tobacconists 480 University, Palo Alto
* Broadway Tobacconist 2013 Broadway, Redwood City
* The Humidor 2855 Stevens Creek, Santa Clara

Actually more than that... Log On has a store locator.

 

[tescela]

The other place to order besides getsnus/northerner is snus central which is the same as buy snus

SnusCentral.org - Your Source For Everything Snus

Buy Snus, Order Swedish snus online world wide - BuySnus.com

Is the shipping rate at Northerner really $19?

What is the shipping rate from snuscentral/buysnus?

 

[hittman]

I think it starts around $30 but from what I hear they don't charge tax. The tax rate varies from state to state.

 

[Stubby]

I think it starts around $30 but from what I hear they don't charge tax. The tax rate varies from state to state.

That's right. For now they are not charging taxes as they have no warehouse in the US and are kind of getting around the tax thing. Theoretically you are supposed to report the purchase to the IRS and pay your fair share............ nof said about that.

Don't know how long they can get away with this before our friends in government but the boot down so things could change in the future.... or not. If you live in a high tax state like I do it makes sense to order overseas. My taxes alone on a roll of Ettan loose is $21. That's just obscene. DON'T MOVE TO WISCONSIN IF YOU USE TOBACCO. I save a lot of money even if the shipping is higher.

 

[tescela]

I think it starts around $30 but from what I hear they don't charge tax. The tax rate varies from state to state.

1. $30 shipping...WOW

2. Does Northerner include tax? (I would prefer for tax to be included.)


It seems like this subforum is populated almost exclusively with people that started enjoying Swedish snus *before* PACT took effect. You know what you like, so you can place large orders confident that you will be pleased with what you get (and you can experiment by throwing in a few cans to try out with minimal incremental cost).

From the perspective of a potential snuser, I think PACT has accomplished its real goal: to make the "entry cost" for switching to Swedish snus so high that >95% of potential converts will either continue smoking, use the nasty American snus, or vape and suffer from the absence of WTA.

This may already exist, and I simply don't know about it, but I am surprised that I haven't seen anything where snus vets are breaking rolls into singles and sending them to noobs so they can experience the difference, find a type of Swedish snus that they like, and then have a personal favorite they can use to start placing bulk orders. This sort of thing is already being done to relay PVs and eLiquid to people in places around the world that have erected barriers. Why wouldn't snusers be doing the same?

 

[Stubby]

This may already exist, and I simply don't know about it, but I am surprised that I haven't seen anything where snus vets are breaking rolls into singles and sending them to noobs so they can experience the difference, find a type of Swedish snus that they like, and then have a personal favorite they can use to start placing bulk orders. This sort of thing is already being done to relay PVs and eLiquid to people in places around the world that have erected barriers. Why wouldn't snusers be doing the same?

If that is happening, and it very well might be, it would be happening over at snuson forum

SnusOn Snus Forum & Community

There is just a relatively small group of snusers here compared to the snuson forum.

 

[tattooed]

SnusOn does seem to be busy enough but I hate how its laid out.

tescela makes a great point, it would be awesome to score some single cans from people who typically buy rolls. I'm doing pretty good with the General stuff that I can buy locally but every time I pop one in, I wonder what else is out there and the shipping just isn't kind to someone who is wanting to try a handful of different brands.

Anyone know why SM is just pushing the General brand and if they plan on sending us some more of their other brands, I mean those guys make most of this stuff, right?

 

[hittman]

I don't mean to sound selfish or anything but if we starting sending out our snus to people then eventually we would have to reorder and absorb the shipping costs and taxes. If I was going to do something like that then it would have to be at current replacement cost unless it was for a friend.

 

[tattooed]

I totally didn't mean I would want someone sending me out free snus. It would be nice however to be able to pay someone something reasonable for a can or two of something interesting. For me to buy my current cart at Northerner I'd spend $20 for 5 cans and then $18 for shipping, from PA to VA, which is ....ing nuts. If I felt confident enough to make an order for rolls, it wouldn't be an issue but since all I know is General and I can get it locally, ordering the unknown for that much seems kind of crazy. If that makes any sense.

 

[hittman]

Perhaps you could do a co-op with someone to split the shipping. I have done that before on snus and snuff. Maybe make a thread to see if anyone shows an interest. What ones are you looking to try? I might consider selling a few.

 

[VaporMadness]

Has an individual mailing cans of snus been criminalized courtesy of PACT?

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Has an individual mailing cans of snus been criminalized courtesy of PACT?

To my knowledge nobody's been caught yet. Would I do it? Sure. Will I order from Sweden to avoid an unjustified and unconstitutional tax rape by lying, money-hungry zealots? You bet. Unfortunately, eventually somebody's gonna get caught (me?), then the DHS will step in and call it an act of terrorism. And to think all we wanted was a reduced harm alternative. Well, they drew first blood, so as an American I feel duty-bound to take the next step by my God-given right to the pursuit of sanity.

Hey Stubby, how deep is the water in your basement .

 

[Stubby]

Hey Stubby, how deep is the water in your basement .

No problems where I am but north and west of Madison got hit. That all drains into the Wisconsin river which was the highest it's been since 1943. Went kayaking all weekend on the Yahara and Rock river (different water shed) south of Madison and no problems. But thanks for asking