Where will the e Cig be in 5 years?

[fantasyhus]

real cig will die sometime.

 

[emus]

real cig will die sometime.

Makes sense but for the life of me I can't understand why so many start using home cooked drugs that make their teeth fall out before they reach 30.

 

[joc3721]

I maintain that BT getting in could be a good thing. Or, for that matter, any large company with resources. These products are in their infancy and by mainstream standards, pretty crude. There is huge opportunity for innovation and improvement. Put some real scientists and engineers on this and we will get much better products. Better performance, lower cost, increased reliability, improved ergonomics, etc.
The slippery slope is in the arena of taxing and regulations. Where will the FDA land, the public health groups, big pharma, taxing bodies, the politicians, etc. This is what will determine the future of vaping.

 

[40yeartobaccoman]

I believe no portion of the e-cig industry will be illegal. I also believe that the tax revenue potential will be so great that the government will not allow it to go to bp but may allow or encourage BT to snap it up. The government has an excellent rapport with BT. As for the vapers? CYA

 

[poetofisis]

Throughout history, the only viable restraint placed upon the endless addiction of greed that afflicts these social parasites has been the willingness on the part of the peasantry to dispense their ammunition into the flabby morass of their putrid, pompous hides. In modern 'civilized' times, there seems no such effective check in place (not that such was ever wielded very efficiently to begin with!). That being said, our modern tyrants would likely run into the same problem with taxation and regulation of these products that they would had they attempted to regulate caffeine, coffee, or the coffee pot. Imagine that daunting task! People would go batcrap crazy if you tried it and would get their fix one way or another. Just look at any other drug out there that millions of people across the world are hopelessly addicted to and you can readily understand the inherent difficulty in alloying taxation to something you can get from a Backstreet alley, bedroom closet, or mountaintop! There is so much money to be made here, and they care not one whit for your health or well being, but how can they enforce it effectively? With tobacco, it's relatively easy. People have been hooked on it for generations, it's not very efficacious to grow yourself and it's been one of the staples of our economic stability for centuries. Hell, smoking, snorting, and chewing things that destroy you and the environment is as American and patriotic as it gets if you're into such nonsense! But now you have the internet, local stores in every major city, people distributing legal, non harmful products from their basement, and users who can design or mod their own products... At best, you can avoid the entire issue and, like drugs, merely, ineffectively outlaw them.

Edit: Another relative issue in this regard is public opinion upon health and the concern on the part of the wealthy that their precious little pets are sane and functional enough to work, consume product, and not ask too many questions , further reducing the likelihood of too much inconvenient meddling in our vaping affairs.

 

[Skeetergirl]

With regard to the appeal to children, vodka is sold in a number of flavors that may also appeal to children and is not illegal. How could they ban our flavors without restricting cherry or grape vodka?

They've stopped flavored tobacco and "underage appeal in packaging" of CIGARETTES! They can set precedence and rules as they please... don't you think? UNLESS we as a group of advocates get our side of the story heard!

 

[AttyPops]

Five years. Hmmmm.

Battery technology will improve due to the research for electric cars and computers/phones. Nano batteries have 10x the storage. So a standard 510 e-cig will be 1800 mAh at 3.7 volts or maybe 900 mAh at 5 volts and be cig-sized. Carry 3 or 4 with you for several days of vaping. Fast charge times too.

Atomizers still suck. 10 - 15 years out they will be ultrasonic and not gunk up like they do now.

Nic juice is taxed by Uncle Sugar, so now they are approved by the FDA as long as they get revenue from it. There will be a misguided (read idiotic) attempt to control flavorings. "Candy Flavoring Shops" will be very popular, as will unflavored e-juice.

The antis will still quote the FDA test from years ago and claim that "e-cigs contain bad antifreeze-DEG" in all the news articles just because they have no other ammo even after 5 more years of usage data.

Wish list (will probably never happen).
1) Vaping declared harmless for 2nd hand vape. Walk into a restaurant and they ask you "Vaping or non-vaping?"
2) e-juice (non-nic) declared healthy in limited amounts - reduces air-borne infections. lol.
3) Taxing of e-juice declared impossible due to the abundance of cheap nicotine on the black market. Easy to make your own liquid.

 

[burns_erin]

In the USA at least, some of it is going to depend in large measure what the economy and government is doing. I agree that taxation is the most likely avenue, but the how is going to be interesting. How do you apply a sin tax our ban the hardware. It us like buying mj smoking hardware. You just have to say you are using it for legal purposes and there is no way to prevent their manufacture, sale or use. They can't do much to the flavorings, the pg or the vg they are so widely used in other applications. That leaves the nicotine liquid. I am sure there is some way to tax the crap out of nic liquid, but it wouldn't surprise me to see it rebranded so to speak as a pesticide. Plus, many people may not be aware, but it is perfectly legal to grow your own tobacco and I can imagine people will figure out how to extract it diy style as well. Based on how things have been going with bt I would I imagine the first thing they will try to do and be successful, is ban the nice flavors.

I can't envision grow your own tobacco going mainstream; could save a pile of money if you have the time, land, shed and climate.
Can't buy tax free tobacco from anyone or ATF will get feelings hurt.
Cooking your own flavorless nic is dangerous.

Not to be terribly contentious, but tobacco plants seem to be easier to grow than mj and tbh some of the least educated and brain dead people I have ever met managed to grow that. As for the danger of diy extracting, well people do plenty of dangerous things everyday. Heck diy mixing has its own dangers and a ton of us do it. Wasn't trying to make any moral judgement or suggestions to try it, just where I see possibilities. But then I grew up in an area where I knew people who did grow tobacco and extracted a liquid for pesticide use.