Which brands/builds are reliable in terms of consumer safety?

[danner3]

Hi everyone, new to vaping (gives me a nice productivity boost actually), and I was wondering if there is a consensus for which e-cig (brand or type) are the safest. I am already DIY e-juicing but it seems that recent studies have highlighted cheap atomizer materials, etc. producing higher levels of PG/Glycerol byproducts or traces of metals used in the coils. I have asthma so I would like to best avoid anything which causes lung irritation. I was using a rubi (similar to juul), but recently lost it while traveling, so i figure this is a good chance to upgrade

My ideal criteria:

1. Internal temperature control (studies show after around 400F you get production of carcinogen byproducts)
2. Fast wicking to prevent dry hitting
3. High quality atomizer materials

I feel like it really comes down to which companies actually test there products for safety with consumers in mind, and I feel like right now most companies don't really look at the scientific literature and assume whatever they are producing is better than smoking so it's ok. I just am having trouble finding out which companies are reliable, so maybe you guys can help me out!

 

[bombastinator]

Well given those criteria you’ll avoid all of the less safe stuff anyway. TC (tempature control) requires a variable voltage mod which removes mechanical and lowest end mods as a possibility to begin with. The mods that are best at TC are those with DNA chipsets. They tend to be quite pricey though. If you can afford it it’s the way to go though.

Another thing you’re going to need to look out for is whatever atomizer you buy it’s going to need to be able to use TC wire. Generally stainless steel, though there are some others.

 

[ScottP]

For a mod, you absolutely cannot go wrong with any mod that has an Evolv DNA board in it. For toppers if you are making your own coils, (RDA, RTA, RDTA, etc.) then you can wick it however you want to get the best performance for you. You just have to find one that suits your vaping style, (MTL or DL). There are a few but not a lot of toppers that have drop in coil heads that are TC compliant anyway.

Oh and the temp at which the production of those aldehydes starts to rise is more like 450-500F depending on makeup of your juice (90VG/10Distilled Water produces less at higher temps then juice with PG). Although anything short of running the tank dry should still be well below regular cigarettes in aldhyde production.

 

[stols001]

A DNA mod with an Evolve board is probably your best bet for accurate TC, and as far as RTAs or RBAs, are you looking for something more direct lung, or something else? I will second the idea of using high quality stainless steel wire, it's probably the safest option when it comes to building.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[Beamslider]

DNA is definitely the way to go with the mod. DNA 75C or up is better in that it allows you to make most changes from the mod itself without having to use the Evolve software on a computer.

 

[Baditude]

+1 for the DNA chip inside and +1 for the recommendation of stainless steel coils. I've read mixed reviews about the safety of using nickle-based coils.



I'm using a JAC Vapour series B DNA75W, although I don't use TC, only wattage mode at just 30 watts. I use the stainless steel coils in my original Crown clearomizer. Love this setup.

 

[danner3]

Thanks for the comments guys! As i would prefer something smaller and for MTL, i was thinking this guy Vaporesso Swag Mod

I'm not very knowledgeable in terms of building coils/selecting tanks, are the ones from vaporesso sufficient? Not sure if i saw anything with SS wires on their site, the new push toward ceramics seems like bull.... given the heat is still provided via metal coil

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for the comments guys! As i would prefer something smaller and for MTL, i was thinking this guy Vaporesso Swag Mod

The Vaporesso Swag mod has a pretty good reputation and I see it often recommended. It doesn't have the DNA chip though.

You can do MTL with any kind of mod. Whether you can MTL or DTL depends upon the airflow design of the tank or juice attachment.

I haven't read anything about Vaporesso's tanks or coils.

 

[Letitia]

@Fidola13 is familiar with using Vaperesso products in tc mode, maybe she can chime in here.

 

[stols001]

Yes, to use ceramic coils in TC mode, they have to have the correct type of wire in it. I'm not sure which ceramic coils (if any) Vaperesso makes for TC that are ceramic. I think there may be some, but I'm entirely unsure.

Anna

 

[Fidola13]

I’m not sure which version of the Omni chop the Swag has but I have several Revenger Xs using the 2.2 version and it works beautifully in TC mode.

I use pretty much the same settings as on the DNA mod so I feel it’s pretty accurate.

The GT cCell ceramic coil has a stainless steel heating coil which I use in TCR mode all the time. It’s a .5 ohm coil and has a pretty tight draw with the NRG tank but I like a very airy DL tank so that’s just personal preference. Vaporesso has a newer cCell V2 ceramic that is .3 ohms. It’s on pre-order right now at Fasttech. I’ve already ordered a couple of packages to check them out.

All of the Vaporesso products I have are really well built imo. Good luck with whatever you decide to get.

 

[IgnorantCig]

Vaporesso has a newer cCell V2 ceramic that is .3 ohms. It’s on pre-order right now at Fasttech. I’ve already ordered a couple of packages to check them out.

I didn't know about the new V2 ceramic coil.

I actually just got a delivery of the .5 ohms ceramic coils from fast tech, and I am currently using one of them now in my revenger go.

I am definitely going to order the new v2 also, and compare them to the current ones.

 

[Fidola13]

Awesome!! Enjoy them!

 

[IgnorantCig]

It’s on pre-order right now at Fasttech. I’ve already ordered a couple of packages to check them out.

Are these the coils that you are talking about?

$8.85 Authentic Vaporesso Cascade One GT CCELL2 Coil Head (3-Pack) 3-pack - 0.3ohm(35-40W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I just want to make sure that it's the correct coils that will fit in a revenger with the stock tank.

 

[Fidola13]

Yep but I’m not 100% they will fit the NRG tank. So wait before ordering. I’ll be posting if they do or don’t.

 

[IgnorantCig]

Yep but I’m not 100% they will fit the NRG tank. So wait before ordering. I’ll be posting if they do or don’t.

Ok, great, thanks!

Going by the product description, I am getting the impression that those coils will work in a variety of their mods, including cascade, veco one and anything that accepts the GT coils, which would include the revenger line.

But as you said, we will know for sure when somebody actually tests the coils out for real.

 

[Fidola13]

I have both the Cascade and NRGs so I’m really hoping they work.

I should’ve mentioned that they’re also offering a mesh coil as well. I can’t remember if I ordered a pack of those tho lol! Knowing me - probably! I’ll be sure to post if they fit and if so how I like them.

 

[danner3]

so i see the vaporesso website recommends somewhat high wattages, is there any reason i cant tune the wattage down on a higher-ish ohm coil to reduce the heat of the vapor?

 

[ScottP]

so i see the vaporesso website recommends somewhat high wattages, is there any reason i cant tune the wattage down on a higher-ish ohm coil to reduce the heat of the vapor?

Not at all. Also if you close off some of the air flow for a tighter draw you also should probably also turn wattage down to account for that. Those are just recommendations and individual tastes and adjustments will by necessity require higher or lower wattage settings than the recommended settings.

 

[Fidola13]

so i see the vaporesso website recommends somewhat high wattages, is there any reason i cant tune the wattage down on a higher-ish ohm coil to reduce the heat of the vapor?

I like a warmish dense vape and when using the GT coils im usually between 40 and 65 watts depending on the coil. The recommended ranges are just that - a recommendation. Although saying that I find that the stated ranges actually are pretty much accurate. I find that I usually end up in the Best Watt range but it’s all personal preference so turn the watts down as much as you want! However you may get a better flavor if you use one of their coils in the specific range which you like to vape at. For example I don’t use the GT 8 or 6 because I don’t like to vape at the wattage. But for me lower the wattage results in a less enjoyable vape - flavor and clouds. I just took out a GT8 that I’ve had in for over a week and to get the “best” flavor I really did need to vape close to 70 watts. I normally use the GT 4 or cCell to stay around 40-50ish.

Hope this helps.