Which one is better eGo or Kgo?

[Fisheeboy]

It seems from what I've seen that these are basically the same thing. I use Kgo 1100mah and have had them for just over a year. I love them. They hold a charge for more than a days worth of vaping and they are very simple. But since Ive had them for as long as I have I'm starting to be concerned about how much longer they will last. I never really see any one mention Kgo but I'm thinking about just sticking to them unless there is something better about the eGo. So can any one tell me if one is better than the other? Any advice on suggested models would be appreciated as well. thanks

 

[minitater]

I've had ego's last a year+ also. That's with at least one charge per day. If your kgo's are doing that then
I see no need to switch. A year on a 10 dollar battery seems like a good deal.

wt

 

[Fisheeboy]

I've had ego's last a year+ also. That's with at least one charge per day. If your kgo's are doing that then
I see no need to switch. A year on a 10 dollar battery seems like a good deal.

wt

Thanks for the speedy reply. And you're right, it does seem like a good deal which is the biggest reason that I want to stick with it. And since I haven't seen or been given a reason to believe there is any significant differences between the two I think I should just go with what has worked.

 

[fourthrok]

I like both the kGo and the eGo. I have had 4 kGos (all 1100 Mah) and they've hung in there for 2 years. I have several eGos and they've lasted about the same length of time. I've since gotten more eGos (mostly passthroughs) because I like the lower regulated voltage with my LR cartomizer tanks and find that the new model kGo's unregulated voltage not so good with my vape liquid or my vaping style. I liked it better when the kGos were regulated at 3.7v...which are what my old ones are, so I do still use them. I gave my SO the unregulated one I bought last Fall.

 

[Kent C]

The first Joye eGo's were regulated to 3.4Volts. (thanks Scottbee). A bit later the Rivas also regulated came out with "SE Rivas" (special edition) that were unregulated - regular 3.7volt batt curve - 4.1-4.2v off charger, quickly going to @3.7V , then at the end trailing off to 3.2V before needing recharging. The KGO came a bit later and was also unregulated but only sold in the longer 1100mAh batt.

The Joye eGo-c 'upgrade' batt has the best short and charge protection in this style of battery. It also has 2 modes - one constant regulated at 3.4V and the 'vv' mode (not true vv like the Twist) unregulated, just like the KGO and the SE Rivas and other 3.7v unregulated batts.

Both the KGO and the eGo-c upgrade have the 5 click on/off, rated at 10 second cutoff (but the eGo is closer to 12-14 seconds). The eGo-c upgrade has a changing led button - white at full charge, changing to light blue to dark blue as the charge runs out - I find this extremely helpful when heading out - making sure I have two 'whites' and I don't run out of charge. The eGo from the eGo-t and eGo-c's have had three sizes - 650, 900 and 1000mAh. The KGO has added a 650 size, but probably hurt their sales by not having it earlier.

I've had dozens of Joye eGo's over the years and most last more than a year. I fried two earlier eGo's (their short and charge protection has been upgraded since with the eGo-t and the eGo-c at the top) by using a coil that had dropped below 1.3 ohms. Neither the eGo or the KGO are good for 'sub-ohm' vaping, and I rarely have a coil below 1.7ohms on the eGo's.

Both now have knockoffs and clones that genuine batts tend to last longer and have less problems with shorts, threading, etc. During the last four years I've tried a few - Visions, Rivas, others and kept having such good luck with Joye eGo's to where that's all I buy now - mainly the better short/charge protection and 2 mode eGo-c upgrades.

 

[GetVaked]

I would personally go with an official JOYETECH eGo. They are the best quality (eGo wise), no doubt. Only negative is they are regulated to 3.3v I believe.

 

[Kent C]

I would personally go with an official JOYETECH eGo. They are the best quality (eGo wise), no doubt. Only negative is they are regulated to 3.3v I believe.

See above - the Joye eGo-c 'upgrade' batt has two modes - one regulated, one unregulated.

 

[Fisheeboy]

Thank you everyone. this is such great information. you all are helping me so much.

 

[fourthrok]

The first Joye eGo's were regulated to 3.4Volts. (thanks Scottbee). A bit later the Rivas also regulated came out with "SE Rivas" (special edition) that were unregulated - regular 3.7volt batt curve - 4.1-4.2v off charger, quickly going to @3.7V , then at the end trailing off to 3.2V before needing recharging. The KGO came a bit later and was also unregulated but only sold in the longer 1100mAh batt.

The Joye eGo-c 'upgrade' batt has the best short and charge protection in this style of battery. It also has 2 modes - one constant regulated at 3.4V and the 'vv' mode (not true vv like the Twist) unregulated, just like the KGO and the SE Rivas and other 3.7v unregulated batts.

Both the KGO and the eGo-c upgrade have the 5 click on/off, rated at 10 second cutoff (but the eGo is closer to 12-14 seconds). The eGo-c upgrade has a changing led button - white at full charge, changing to light blue to dark blue as the charge runs out - I find this extremely helpful when heading out - making sure I have two 'whites' and I don't run out of charge. The eGo from the eGo-t and eGo-c's have had three sizes - 650, 900 and 1000mAh. The KGO has added a 650 size, but probably hurt their sales by not having it earlier.

Both now have knockoffs and clones that genuine batts tend to last longer and have less problems with shorts, threading, etc. During the last four years I've tried a few - Visions, Rivas, others and kept having such good luck with Joye eGo's to where that's all I buy now - mainly the better short/charge protection and 2 mode eGo-c upgrades.

I thought for sure everywhere I've seen that mentions it, that the current eGo T and eGoC (in regulated form) run at 3.3v. Maybe that's under load? But that seems to be the number I've seen everywhere. I doubt a .1v difference is really much of a difference though. And I agree...the eGo C with it's system to let you know where you stand with your battery's charge is terrific. Very helpful!

As for the older kGos...I remember Brent had a video on his site where he was proving that the kGo ran consistently at 3.7v. He was quite insistent about it, as I recall. The video is now gone, of course, since the kGo went to unregulated.

I've had a couple of Smok eGo style batteries that I bought in 2012 that are still working fine. Both are the etched casing style. Of course..I have several eGo type PVs in rotation...probably around 16 total right now that I've been collecting over the past couple of years, so no particular one is getting heavy constant use ALL the time. Helps with the longevity of all of them. They all have an expected life expectancy of around 300 full charges. I haven't had the Smok magnetic PTs that long...started getting them last Fall (I think that is around when they came out, and so maybe Smok has upped the quality etc. since early days of making the eGo type PVs). So far performance, threading, etc. are excellent. I will mention again that *probably* the Joyetech brand eGos are the highest quality, however.

 

[r77r7r]

- I have Joye Upgrades with a year to a year 1/2 on them and still going strong.

-I like/use the dual power mode.

- I've shorted one and was very happy with having protection circuitry. NO fun having a battery go thermal!

-Joye has good Passthrus, which is much nicer than crap ego chargers and having to remove head and clean post every charge.

- The buttons never go wonky and the post stays UP.

 

[Kent C]

I thought for sure everywhere I've seen that mentions it, that the current eGo T and eGoC (in regulated form) run at 3.3v. Maybe that's under load? But that seems to be the number I've seen everywhere. I doubt a .1v difference is really much of a difference though. And I agree...the eGo C with it's system to let you know where you stand with your battery's charge is terrific. Very helpful!

As for the older kGos...I remember Brent had a video on his site where he was proving that the kGo ran consistently at 3.7v. He was quite insistent about it, as I recall. The video is now gone, of course, since the kGo went to unregulated.

I've had a couple of Smok eGo style batteries that I bought in 2012 that are still working fine. Both are the etched casing style. Of course..I have several eGo type PVs in rotation...probably around 16 total right now that I've been collecting over the past couple of years, so no particular one is getting heavy constant use ALL the time. Helps with the longevity of all of them. They all have an expected life expectancy of around 300 full charges. I haven't had the Smok magnetic PTs that long...started getting them last Fall (I think that is around when they came out, and so maybe Smok has upped the quality etc. since early days of making the eGo type PVs). So far performance, threading, etc. are excellent. I will mention again that *probably* the Joyetech brand eGos are the highest quality, however.

The regulated voltage is underload - in the older eGo's it ranged from 3.1-3.3 and the eGo-t, eGo-c and the upgrades range closer to 3.3-3.4V sometimes just shorted to 3.4. Since the advent of a wider variety of ohms in coils - it isn't as significant as it once was since it's easier to gain the right wattage for flavor with the ohm side of the equation.

And you're right - without problems - almost all are rated for around 300 charges, but like r77r7r mentions you can short an eGo-c or eGo-c upgrade once and continue to use it. That simply isn't the case with other models. We had techies here who attempted and failed to blow up Joye eGo-c's to where they 'go thermal' and this was after a Joyetech eGo-t exploded on someone. Joye fpund out about it - through this forum - and fixed that (and paid for the damaged floor to the one user) with the eGo-c with the new short and charge protection.

I too have several eGos going - two for each flavor that I vape - about 6 or 7 times 2. So that figures into longevity. Most here know to figure that in with me

All that said, if a newbie has any model that gets them off cigarettes, they tend to stay with that one and even become fanboys and girls, and frankly, I don't blame them I stayed with the Janty 510 for quite a while, and was a late adopter of the Joye eGo, but some of my 'mentors' at that time had sold all their cool mods (that I really envied and went to the Joye eGo. I followed and haven't looked back.

 

[r77r7r]

And you're right - without problems - almost all are rated for around 300 charges, but like r77r7r mentions you can short an eGo-c or eGo-c upgrade once and continue to use it. That simply isn't the case with other models. We had techies here who attempted and failed to blow up Joye eGo-c's to where they 'go thermal' and this was after a Joyetech eGo-t exploded on someone. Joye fpund out about it - through this forum - and fixed that (and paid for the damaged floor to the one user) with the eGo-c with the new short and charge protection.



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Huh, ty for that info Kent. I guess it makes sense to only have 1 recovery in that type of circuitry. So, the second time it shorts, it just dies, not goes Thermal?

 

[fourthrok]

: I stayed with the Janty 510 for quite a while, and was a late adopter of the Joye eGo, but some of my 'mentors' at that time had sold all their cool mods (that I really envied and went to the Joye eGo. I followed and haven't looked back.

Interesting! So you are saying you skipped the "cool mods" and went from the Janty to the Joyetech eGo...and stayed there? That is pretty cool. Unlike you, I did the progression from cig-a-like to eGo/kGo then on to various "cool mods"...variable voltage and VW...bottom feeders, box form, pipe bomb form, all mechanical, semi mechanical, etc. etc. But after about 10 months of trying all that (and having a pretty good time) I suddenly reverted back to the eGo in October last year...and have stayed there. As I've mentioned, I have both the Joye eGo T and eGo C upgrades...plus the passthrough versions of both. Plus the newer Smok magnetic PTs. And still use the older models I got in early 2012. My "cool mods" (which are cool, after all) are currently neglected in storage...along with assorted RBAs, and bottom feeders. Oh well.

 

[Kent C]

Interesting! So you are saying you skipped the "cool mods" and went from the Janty to the Joyetech eGo...and stayed there? That is pretty cool. Unlike you, I did the progression from cig-a-like to eGo/kGo then on to various "cool mods"...variable voltage and VW...bottom feeders, box form, pipe bomb form, all mechanical, semi mechanical, etc. etc. But after about 10 months of trying all that (and having a pretty good time) I suddenly reverted back to the eGo in October last year...and have stayed there. As I've mentioned, I have both the Joye eGo T and eGo C upgrades...plus the passthrough versions of both. Plus the newer Smok magnetic PTs. And still use the older models I got in early 2012. My "cool mods" (which are cool, after all) are currently neglected in storage...along with assorted RBAs, and bottom feeders. Oh well.

I went from the 510 to the Janty Stick (801), then the 510 Bartleby (box mod). I had a Protégé, Chameleon and a few others before trying the eGo after a few friends here I respected, went that way. I sold all my mods but I have a reo mini that I still use for one flavor and I tried the Vmod V2 but have abandoned that. I really like the 'stealth' aspect of the 650 eGo and the features of the eGo-c upgrade batts.

And like I said, in 'vv' mode, with the right coil, I can duplicate the wattage of almost any of the old or newer mods. More voltage and wattage isn't always good for certain flavors, so I have no need for them. For my espresso vape I use a Twist and the only flavor that vapes over 10W without burning. I use the eGo-c upgrade passthrough in the Rav4

 

[Kent C]

Huh, ty for that info Kent. I guess it makes sense to only have 1 recovery in that type of circuitry. So, the second time it shorts, it just dies, not goes Thermal?

Correct. I had two that shorted (3 flashes) on a low ohm atty. The second time it died. The other is still alive. I fried two earlier eGo's- before the 't' and 'c' models in a similar manner. But they died instantly - one during a dry burn..... why I only use vodka to clean now. lol. The eGo-c upgrade batts that I have had, have never gotten even warm - even the shorted ones. They are cool on the charger. The Vision I had got hot on the charger and I pitched it and the charger. Not worth the risk..... The Twists will get hot above a certain wattage - @9.5W, but never on the charger. Not saying 'never' here - just I haven't had it happen now in close to 3 years on the eGo-c/eGo-c upgrade batts.

 

[Fisheeboy]

To all that shared the great info and opinions on this thread I say THANK YOU!!! I really really like my kgo and plan on sticking with them for quite some time. If and when I do go for "mods" which I'm sure to do so, I will only being doing so because of curiosity. Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love with one of those too. It's really nice to see others enjoying the eGo/kGo stuff as much as I do.

 

[Ay Dee Jay]

To all that shared the great info and opinions on this thread I say THANK YOU!!! I really really like my kgo and plan on sticking with them for quite some time. If and when I do go for "mods" which I'm sure to do so, I will only being doing so because of curiosity. Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love with one of those too. It's really nice to see others enjoying the eGo/kGo stuff as much as I do.

I'm a ProVari owner but managed to lose it during a move. I occasionally stop vaping and switch to Snus or nothing at all and didn't really miss it until my next "nicotine wave" came...I'm bipolar, which explains some of this pattern.

Long story short, Ego-C Twist batteries are a perfect substitute to the ProVari in my opinion so long as you have an extra battery at all times (I have a variety of 650-1100 mAh), and I'm in heaven after pairing up the Ego-C Twist with a ProTank II Mini and Alien Visions Craveloupe juice. I happened to have the juice sitting in a drawer for almost two years and it's still awesome as ever...

 

[patkin]

I've posted two OPs and can't get any answers so while searching for one I came across this thread. Can anyone tell me if an Ego C upgrade 1000 mah passthrough that won't go into unregulated mode any more is safe to keep using. Thanks.

 

[Kent C]

I've posted two OPs and can't get any answers so while searching for one I came across this thread. Can anyone tell me if an Ego C upgrade 1000 mah passthrough that won't go into unregulated mode any more is safe to keep using. Thanks.

Patkin... been on vacation only had an iPad and I'm new at that Saw your earlier post - not sure what may be happening but the eGo-c upgrade is the safest eGo. If you can only run in regulated mode that should work well. I figure you know it well since you've had it a while but some don't know that you have to 5 click to turn the batt on after switching modes. Stumped me at first... ;-) I've had one upgrade come out of mode during charging - but went back into mode easily and with no problem and didn't do that after that one time. Don't know why that happened. And I've had a few that went to 'lifetime death' without the problem you're experiencing.

Again, you should be good in the one mode though.

 

[patkin]

Thanks Kent. Glad you found my post. The orange light just won't come on no matter how long I hold it down unlike all the others that still do. Maybe I jarred something loose when I dropped it. Guess I'll never know but am gonna keep using it in regulated until I get another and then will just put it in a backup drawer. Thanks again.