which one is btter to start?
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I don't recommend iStick 50--it's problematic, to say the least. If you want an iStick, grab the iStick 30 or 40 (with temperature control). I also like Innokin Cool Fire 4 and Heatwave Defender 36.
Subox (kbox mini and subtank mini combo) is only available as a kit--do you want a sub-ohm tank? If you get the Subox, you'll need to also buy batteries and an external charger.
Subox (kbox mini and subtank mini combo) is only available as a kit--do you want a sub-ohm tank? If you get the Subox, you'll need to also buy batteries and an external charger.
If you're going with removable batteries I would go with an ipv d2 and delta 2 or the evic mini.
I would go with a mod that you use your own batteries,and grab a charger. IPV D2 is awesome and does 75 watts. But seeing as how your new to vaping you may not want to get a charger and batteries yet. Will add a few more dollars to the initial purchase. I haven't had any problems with my istick 50 watt, prefer temperature control though now. Grab a tank with pre built coil heads that also has a rebuildable rba base, for later if you stick with it, witch I hope you do. to high nicotine in a sub ohm tank will make you cough at first, 8 to 12 will get you off the cancer sticks, good luck quiting!
i suggest u getting one with TC, so u don have to upgrade it in the near future. i started with the subox mini, n yes its a great device. but after less than 3wks of use, i bought another TC mod.
How much lower do you need? (You might not be able to answer)
To throw water on the flames of enthusiasm here, I vote for a battery and tank combo that suits low power vaping as well as higher power. That means if you can't start under 10 watts then it's not a beginner kit. Funny how we all quit the smokes vaping at 6-10 watts and now the 'recommended kit' is things that vape at 17/35 watts (ego ONE) or subohm tanks. Not everyone can start in double figures. A mod is a mod (more power is good, always) so a 50w istick is as good as anything. Or Innokin Coolfire 4 or whatever floats your boat. I don't consider subohm tanks beginner kit and if you put a 1.5ohm coil in it, it's not a subohm tank. It'll still have a massive airflow compared to a cigarette.
This time next year "newbie" kits will no doubt be 200w with 0.1 coils. Where do we draw the line?
Grumpy of England.
To throw water on the flames of enthusiasm here, I vote for a battery and tank combo that suits low power vaping as well as higher power. That means if you can't start under 10 watts then it's not a beginner kit. Funny how we all quit the smokes vaping at 6-10 watts and now the 'recommended kit' is things that vape at 17/35 watts (ego ONE) or subohm tanks. Not everyone can start in double figures. A mod is a mod (more power is good, always) so a 50w istick is as good as anything. Or Innokin Coolfire 4 or whatever floats your boat. I don't consider subohm tanks beginner kit and if you put a 1.5ohm coil in it, it's not a subohm tank. It'll still have a massive airflow compared to a cigarette.
This time next year "newbie" kits will no doubt be 200w with 0.1 coils. Where do we draw the line?
Grumpy of England.
I agree with Katya on the coolfire 4. It is fairly small, has a great range of wattage or voltage you can use. Innokin is one of the few bigger companies I happen to like.
While I prefer a device with replaceable cells, there is a lot to learn when you first start vaping, so use KISS and give yourself time to learn before jumping in with even more expense and headache.
Proper battery safety is important.
While I prefer a device with replaceable cells, there is a lot to learn when you first start vaping, so use KISS and give yourself time to learn before jumping in with even more expense and headache.
Proper battery safety is important.
Don't recommend the iStick 50 watt.
I also don't recommend internal battery devices in general. Lithium-ion batteries last ~500 charge cycles. You'll have to replace your whole device instead of just replacing your power cell. Internal is OK if you're not ready to get the batteries, an external charger, and you want more time to learn about battery safety. But, know that it's more economical for you in the long run.
I wouldn't normally consider a mod a beginner device unless you have someone who can help you or if you're comfortable learning from videos, blogs, and forums. It depends on how comfortable you are with the tech. The industry is moving toward things like the SubTank and S-Box being into gear, but I wouldn't have been comfortable with such devices 4 or 5 years ago. With that said, the SubTank and S-Box are fairly intuitive.
Mini versus Nano. The mini comes with an optional RBA (ReBuildable Atomizer) and it's bigger. If you think you might grow into building your coils (or using the pre-wound coils) then go with the Mini. You can still use the pre-made coil heads if you want to. The Nano is smaller. If you feel that the mini is to a bit too big for you, go with the Nano. Kanger tanks hang around for a while. So, you could always start with one and pick up the other later.
I also don't recommend internal battery devices in general. Lithium-ion batteries last ~500 charge cycles. You'll have to replace your whole device instead of just replacing your power cell. Internal is OK if you're not ready to get the batteries, an external charger, and you want more time to learn about battery safety. But, know that it's more economical for you in the long run.
I wouldn't normally consider a mod a beginner device unless you have someone who can help you or if you're comfortable learning from videos, blogs, and forums. It depends on how comfortable you are with the tech. The industry is moving toward things like the SubTank and S-Box being into gear, but I wouldn't have been comfortable with such devices 4 or 5 years ago. With that said, the SubTank and S-Box are fairly intuitive.
Mini versus Nano. The mini comes with an optional RBA (ReBuildable Atomizer) and it's bigger. If you think you might grow into building your coils (or using the pre-wound coils) then go with the Mini. You can still use the pre-made coil heads if you want to. The Nano is smaller. If you feel that the mini is to a bit too big for you, go with the Nano. Kanger tanks hang around for a while. So, you could always start with one and pick up the other later.
I have a istick 30 its perfect for me i have been using it for about 8 months. I dont like external batteries i dont like carrying extra batteries around i would just rather plug it in to charge it. if my istick battery goes dead every year i dont care $40 and i can get another one, $40 a year is nothing. i just picked up a istick 40tc for $39.95 at sweet-vapes slap a gs air tank on there and you got the perfect vape.
A little over a year ago I started out with an EVOD variable volts pen style with 1600 mAh battery and an EMOW Mega tank. Loved it and still use it today when I'm out and about. When the Kbox Mini came out I got one and love it. I bought the Atlantis 2 tank a couple weeks later and feel it is 10 times better than the Subtank. Not saying the Subtank is bad because I still use it. I recently bought an MVP 3.0 Pro to have as a back up.
Whichever you get make sure you get the right nic level juice. When I use my EMOW tank I use 12-18mg but only 3-6mg on the other two tanks because they give you a bigger hit.
I personally like that I didn't go straight to a box mod. Worked my way up to one. Didn't plan it that way but I just wasn't sure at the time if vaping was going to be my thing. Thankfully it was! I also just placed an order on https://www.fasttech.com/ I'm always wanting something more lol
Whichever you get make sure you get the right nic level juice. When I use my EMOW tank I use 12-18mg but only 3-6mg on the other two tanks because they give you a bigger hit.
I personally like that I didn't go straight to a box mod. Worked my way up to one. Didn't plan it that way but I just wasn't sure at the time if vaping was going to be my thing. Thankfully it was! I also just placed an order on https://www.fasttech.com/ I'm always wanting something more lol
Personnally I would NOT start with a mod of more than 20-30watts and the coil would be at 1ohm or higher, probably around 1.5ohms or more. For the exact same reason I would not give my child a corvette as their first car.
IMHO (in my humble opinion): keep in mind that whatever "mod" and "tank" (some call them 'toppers') you purchase there is a good chance that you'll out grow them in the coming days/weeks and months.
Many of us get a 'starter kit' to see if we like vaping or if it will work for us. Once we were 'switched over' to full time vaping we started noticing areas that our vaping gear could use some improvement. It could be better air flow (or less), larger tank size, easier fill, less expensive pre-built atomizers/coils (or the desire to make our own) or simply more of the same style tank so flavors could be swapped easily with the tank (without finishing and rinsing the tank). When it comes to vaping, something newer and possibly better is being released to the public almost monthly!
Tank - I'd recommend something with pre-built atomizer/coils available that are 1.0 ohm or higher resistance. There are many tanks with prebuilt options from <0.5 ohms to >1.0 ohms.
Mod - the iStick models are very inexpensive and work well for a 'starter'. I'd recommend the TC40 or TC60. The TC100 is more power and costly than needed, the 50 had a bunch of reported (deserved or not) issues and the 30W and below models besides being fairly old models (in vapor industry) will likely be outgrown to quickly.
Many of us get a 'starter kit' to see if we like vaping or if it will work for us. Once we were 'switched over' to full time vaping we started noticing areas that our vaping gear could use some improvement. It could be better air flow (or less), larger tank size, easier fill, less expensive pre-built atomizers/coils (or the desire to make our own) or simply more of the same style tank so flavors could be swapped easily with the tank (without finishing and rinsing the tank). When it comes to vaping, something newer and possibly better is being released to the public almost monthly!
Tank - I'd recommend something with pre-built atomizer/coils available that are 1.0 ohm or higher resistance. There are many tanks with prebuilt options from <0.5 ohms to >1.0 ohms.
Mod - the iStick models are very inexpensive and work well for a 'starter'. I'd recommend the TC40 or TC60. The TC100 is more power and costly than needed, the 50 had a bunch of reported (deserved or not) issues and the 30W and below models besides being fairly old models (in vapor industry) will likely be outgrown to quickly.
I suggest the iStick 40TC as several people have said. It's small, light, and the battery lasts a long time. I'm a tube mod user but I like my wife's new iStick. Make sure it comes in a kit with the charging cable.
There are some great devices available out there, in all reality you can just pick one that you like for whatever reason be it size, battery life, power range, color? Doesn't matter, they all function well and you'll love it. Then in a week or month or two months you'll see something shiny and want it. Then you'll have a backup!!
How much lower do you need? (You might not be able to answer)
To throw water on the flames of enthusiasm here, I vote for a battery and tank combo that suits low power vaping as well as higher power. That means if you can't start under 10 watts then it's not a beginner kit. Funny how we all quit the smokes vaping at 6-10 watts and now the 'recommended kit' is things that vape at 17/35 watts (ego ONE) or subohm tanks. Not everyone can start in double figures. A mod is a mod (more power is good, always) so a 50w istick is as good as anything. Or Innokin Coolfire 4 or whatever floats your boat. I don't consider subohm tanks beginner kit and if you put a 1.5ohm coil in it, it's not a subohm tank. It'll still have a massive airflow compared to a cigarette.
This time next year "newbie" kits will no doubt be 200w with 0.1 coils. Where do we draw the line?
Grumpy of England.
What he said! +10.
Really. This too shall pass. I've been vaping for almost 6 years and never had a slightest need for a sub-ohm device. I tried, I own a Subtank mini and I like it--but I use it with 1.2-1.6Ω builds. I vape like I used to smoke--mouth to lung, moderate vapor. 7-10 watts (per coil) is all I need. Maybe a bit more with my RBAs...
Agree.
I found the istick to be kinda a "cheap piece of junk" but then again, it IS priced to be cheap so I can't really fault it. That plus the fact that I really have used a lot of mods since 2012 and have a lot to compare it to
I am admittedly not an Aspire anything fan and prefer innokin, kanger, joyetech, etc. and of course any of the made in USA higher priced stuff.... but that is just personal preference but 3 years in i have never needed anything "sub ohm" and don't really suggest newbies "start" with that.
My philosophy in life is to use the tool that "gets the job done" without going overboard......that means a tad bit of wiggle room but not over kill. (i.e. you don't use a chainsaw when a simple hand held hack-saw will do for a smaller job.......just the reflections of someone who is a homesteader and knows how to use pretty much every tool). I have stripped a few small screws using a high powered electric drill when I should have just used a small manual screw driver for some things.
djsvapour, slightly off topic but same applies to computers, I always ask person what they want to do with their computer and when they tell me surf the web, do emails, do photos, etc. I am always amazed how much more $$$ they are spending that is totally unnecessary because they will not be using programs that require high intensity graphics rendering, professional photo programs, or doing mathematical calculations and crunching a whole lot of data or numbers........they don't NEED half the stuff they will be paying for when they can just get their local computer guy to build them a very simple "box" or buy a simpler laptop without the all the super duper processing power that they will NEVER use.
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