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Which one Trident or Patriot RDA?

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by JulesXsmokr, Oct 9, 2013.

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  1. JulesXsmokr

    JulesXsmokr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Blasting away on my Igo-w, making good micro coils, rolled cotton ball wicks, it doesn't get much better...
    Well, maybe it's time for a classier, maybe a better vaping RDA, is this possible?
    I leaning towards the two in the title and need opinions of users of those. "no clones"
    What are pros and cons of each one..???
    They will be on my 22mm. milled satin ss mech. and maybe a satin brass model as well
    After this purchase comes an RDA, but that will be little later on. :confused:
     
  2. ScandaLeX

    ScandaLeX ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2013
    PhiLLy
    My avatar is the Trident (clone) on a ProVari but you said no clones- If the real thing were available in this color I would've gotten it- that's how much I love this RBA.
    I'm sure your thread will get many different suggestions but IMO, it's not about the RBA- it's the build that gives a "better vape".
     
  3. t8kiteasy

    t8kiteasy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 22, 2012
    virginia beach
    The Trident hands down:vapor:
    Everyone should have at least one top shelf RDA in there arsenal and the Trident is one of them.You can change the airflow to whatever you desire from tight,to a very open lung hit if you wish.
    CON:Having to turn the top cap to adjust to which. airhole you desire,not too difficult,but can be a pain to do.This is the only con i can come up with for this one.You will be extremely pleased with this RDA
     
  4. ScandaLeX

    ScandaLeX ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2013
    PhiLLy
    I don't see that as a con considering I don't change my airhole often.
     
  5. t8kiteasy

    t8kiteasy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 22, 2012
    virginia beach
    personal preference that's all.
     
  6. natedawgdaboss

    natedawgdaboss Full Member

    Aug 29, 2013
    El Paso, TX
    trident has different post hole setup than any other rda ive seen...since Im into flat wire (for now) the trident would be MUCH easier for building dual flat micros like I do.
    if you're a cloud chaser and want massive clouds and dnt mind not having an afc then the patriot should be beast with airholes of 5/64 or 3/32
     
  7. cobyatch

    cobyatch Full Member Verified Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Bay Area, CA
    I went from an Igo-W to a Patriot and it was a great step up. Building coils is exactly the same, but the Patriot gives you a lot more space. I had the Trident clone for a while and I didn't like building on it, the coils moved a lot before tightening down the nuts. The only reason I would pick the Trident is for the AFC, but seeing that you don't change your airholes I think the Patriot would be the better choice.
     
  8. NicoHolic

    NicoHolic Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 13, 2013
    USA
    I don't have one but did look into the Trident. Have you seen Todd's Review of it?

    Here's one on a 20 mm diameter Super-T Precise Simplicity (the mod I'd use it on).

    Photo from RPad.TV
    [​IMG]

    Hope this contributes something.
     
  9. JulesXsmokr

    JulesXsmokr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Thanks for the replies:
    It does seem that you really wouldn't need to adjust air hole size once you figure what you want. I drilled my igo-w to 1.5 mm. and I do like it there. I can use a slightly larger or smaller drip tip to adjust even further.

    I think having room to build is important, but maybe more important having a small well and especially the way the coils attach to the posts, so when you place it in position, it stays there, and the screws tighten and stay tight, I know my W tends to loosen up once in a while and I lose some response, then I have to re-tighten.

    Lastly---
    Does shape of the cap play a significant role?
    Does either have more durable posts and screws than the other?

    I probably wouldn't ask these questions if I were buying a clone, but I like to buy genuine with confidence, and ask users since I'll probably never see these in person around my neck of the woods before I buy one.
    Thanks______:2cool:
     
  10. iTEO

    iTEO Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2013
    Chicago Vape Nation
    both are good, I've worked on them. Patriot has a lot of area to work with and get creative and sits perfect on 22mm mods. While the trident has a small work area, it's still more than enough space and the adjustable airflow is a huge plus.
     
  11. sawtoothscream

    sawtoothscream Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2013
    United States
    I only have the trident clone but its stupid simple to build on. Im rocking dual micros in mine now and very happy with it
     
  12. notawoman

    notawoman Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2012
    Las Vegas
    I only have the trident, I really like it but I had to chop off the air flow control. I run my dual coils at about .3 or .4 and I found some of my builds getting crushed and or potentially shorting out on the top cap.

    Despite me having to do such a thing to such a nice mod I couldn't be happier with the results. It hits perfectly for me now and I really enjoy it.
     
  13. cobyatch

    cobyatch Full Member Verified Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Bay Area, CA
    The cap on the Patriot helps keep the whole atomizer cool. Noticed it instantly, as it doesn't get nearly as hot as my Igo-W.
     
  14. vapo jam

    vapo jam Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 25, 2013
    county of orange, ca
    i'm going to throw in a curveball and suggest a vho helios. it's more expensive than either a trident or a patriot, but it has a couple features that i now can't live without...

    first, the two positive wire holes. i love me some dual coils, and it's a lot easier building them if each coil has it's own center post.

    second (and much more importantly), the afc ring. not the afc, mind you (i always vape full open), but the ring itself. if there's still a little juice left when you're done vaping, just turn the ring to close the holes and throw it in your pocket. if i try that with my nimbus (holes drilled to 3/16" i believe), i'd get juice all over my pants.

    to answer the original question, i'd say go with the trident. although i like the extra positive hole on the helios, i'll admit the slotted posts on the trident are probably an even better system.
     
  15. Jimi D.

    Jimi D. ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2010
    Florida Keys
    Get the Trident. Airflow control is key. But, I like my Helios better than my Trident any day.
     
  16. Alchemy

    Alchemy Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2013
    SoCal
    I don't have a Patriot yet I'm thinking about picking one up though. My experience with the Trident has been excellent so far I bought the fasttech clone and I liked it so much that I got a genuine 24k from OKC. The AFC really puts this one over the top IMHO it's going to be difficult to convince me there's a better RDA available.
     
  17. ScandaLeX

    ScandaLeX ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2013
    PhiLLy
    I think I'm lost.
    When you speak about room to work, how much room do you need to build coils in a Trident?
    I keep looking inside mine trying to figure out what am I missing because (IMO) there's a lot of room.

    The screw which holds the coil in place- I don't even take that all the way off.
    Just raise it enough to slide the coli thru the slot and tighten it back down.

    Just for the heck of it I slid another coil in.
    I don't have a need for dual but wanted to see how difficult it'd be to do it the way I currently do singles.
    Still without removing the screw cap I was able to slide another coil into the center post and tighten it down.

    Aesthetically I LOVE the look of the Trident on my ProVari with the Atmistique Gemini DT.
    I don't love it enough to spend $115 on it but did purchase more (3) of them from FT.
    Should be here tomorrow.


    [​IMG]
     
  18. JulesXsmokr

    JulesXsmokr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    I noticed on OKC that the gold trident was an newer improved version with a thinner cap...
    There reg. Trident listing there does not say it is the revised model.
    Is the newer version only available on the gold model?
     
  19. JulesXsmokr

    JulesXsmokr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    question on the Helios, which is not really on my want list at this time..
    those allen screws -- being so small I would think they tend to strip out easily, I work with tools that use them and don't like there durability, usually the allen wrench rounds out first, but I can imagine the screw itself stripping and I'll never get the screw out of the post if this were to happen.
    What do you think?
     
  20. Alchemy

    Alchemy Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2013
    SoCal
    Yep AFAIK the gold ones from OKC are the new revised model. As far as the regular SS version they're out of stock pretty much everywhere so...
    Funny the limited editions are available and the regular versions are not :p
     
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