White House OMB scrapped FDA plan to ban flavors
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Seriously?
Why not pretend to look good, knowing it is a Moot point when APPROVAL is a Requirement
****Also, gives Lobbying Groups Fire to go after Cole-Bishop - so watch out for the
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So what exactly would be the Mechanics of the Next President or the Next Congress to Modify something like the "Deeming" Rule Set or the PMTA for ENDS?
That is, if the Next President or Next Congress had such a Desire.
Not positive, a congressional act to amend the FSPTCA probably?Yeah... And a standardize text Colour for Sarcasm would be a good addition to the ECF.
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So what exactly would be the Mechanics of the Next President or the Next Congress to Modify something like the "Deeming" Rule Set or the PMTA for ENDS?
That is, if the Next President or Next Congress had such a Desire.
ETA: supposedly there are legislative plans in the works, and I understand why they can't be discussed in detail, but we're hitting another period where it LOOKS like the groups are doing nothing, even though I don't think they are.
Yeah... And a standardize text Colour for Sarcasm would be a good addition to the ECF.
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So what exactly would be the Mechanics of the Next President or the Next Congress to Modify something like the "Deeming" Rule Set or the PMTA for ENDS?
That is, if the Next President or Next Congress had such a Desire.
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Just too much time on My hand I Guess.
He's a rebel and a runner
He's a signal turning green
He's a restless young romantic
Wants to run the big machine
If the FDA had gotten their way how would that have effected nic concentrate?
Was there any flavored eliquid for sale before the 2007 grandfather date? I haven't noticed anybody address that. If yes may be there were some decent flavors back in those days. But I mix my own so the fuss about pre mix is not so interesting. May be the good thing about juice companies is they have some money to pay lawyers to defend the rest of us.
When the FDA justifies their restrictions by saying children are interested they are expressing their social preferences, not any science.
Was there any flavored eliquid for sale before the 2007 grandfather date? I haven't noticed anybody address that. If yes may be there were some decent flavors back in those days. But I mix my own so the fuss about pre mix is not so interesting. May be the good thing about juice companies is they have some money to pay lawyers to defend the rest of us.
When the FDA justifies their restrictions by saying children are interested they are expressing their social preferences, not any science.
As a purchasing professional I can attest that context is everything. Unless it's a commodity like nicotine. That stands on its own.
Good luck.
They can't K. They're tied to their mortgages like the most of us. Sad it is. Good luck.
*sigh*
I read about this earlier today but thought it was the OMB that wanted to ban flavors and the FDA nixed it. Nope, other way around. FDA wanted the bann! They really want to kill this industry. Wow, bann all flavors 90 days after deeming starts in Aug. Then Jan. 1 2017 juice companies would have been out of business! (except for tobacco flavors and no flavor juice I guess) Oh, they could sell 10mi bottles to Europe. Seems like they want us to smoke. Unbelievable! 
Seems like they want us to smoke. Unbelievable! 
I really would not worry as much as people are doing if I were an American. UK has more vapours than in the whole of America (4.5 million vapours which is 45% of all smokers) and is actively encouraging it. We have a law that specifically states that export and import of e products is legal, and a lot of our pre-made comes from the states. (UK is turning a blind eye to the silly 10ml thing) Worst comes to the worst you will all just have to import "candle oil, not for human consumption" from us and with international shipping so fast and cheap these days there won't be too much difference.
Our gov't would be thinking, hmm, the import of "candle oil" has exploded, how can we get our claws into this.
I don't see the Situation in the UK as a reason why US Vapers should not be Very Worried.
Just because something is Legal to Sell or Export in the UK does not mean that US Vaper can effectively Skirt FDA Regulations.
And it will be like Deja vu from 2009 with US Customs sieging packages. Only this time, the FDA WILL have the Legal Authority to do so.
Well, they think they do. How long until someone challenges them in court, when the product that was seized, let's say a shipment of mods or atties, contains no nicotine or anything else in any way made from tobacco?
Not Saying there will/can't be Legal Challenges.
And I would Hope that the Current/Pending Legal Challenges will be Positively Resolved before 2018. But having seen the speed that the Legal Wheels Turn, I'm not sure I would bet my Vaping Future on it.
BTW - Do you the Possibility that the Purchasing by an Individual of Nicotine in Liquid Form will somehow be able to be successfully Legally Challenged.
Because Nicotine is the Key. And it Doesn't matter how many Atty's you have if you Don't have Liquid Nicotine to put in them.
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