WHO makes even more false claims about e-cigarettes (today)

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I like this one:
" Electronic cigarettes (e-cigs) are the most common prototype of ENDS."

A product that has been on a mass production scale for more than 5 years is hardly a prototype. More lying to make them sound unknown and unsafe.

Also, I would like to see an ecig user attempt to drink a drop or two of 24 or 36 mg/mL liquid, let alone a child. I vape 6mg juice non-stop all day. Attempting to drink 24mg juice would provide me with a comfort level similar to eating a spoonful of cayenne pepper.

To me it looks like they are becoming so desperate that they are willing outright lie.

I hope nobody tells them about the Killeen study that just came out. Who knows what they would end up doing out of desperation ;)
 

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I like this one:
" Electronic cigarettes (e-cigs) are the most common prototype of ENDS."

A product that has been on a mass production scale for more than 5 years is hardly a prototype. More lying to make them sound unknown and unsafe.

Also, I would like to see an ecig user attempt to drink a drop or two of 24 or 36 mg/mL liquid, let alone a child. I vape 6mg juice non-stop all day. Attempting to drink 24mg juice would provide me with a comfort level similar to eating a spoonful of cayenne pepper.

To me it looks like they are becoming so desperate that they are willing outright lie.

I hope nobody tells them about the Killeen study that just came out. Who knows what they would end up doing out of desperation ;)

I'm speaking personaly here
The Killeen study is the 'myth-buster'to beat all myth-busters-once 'the beast' gets this study on their radar (if it starts to circulate, and gains acceptance) watch the 'suppression' of it begin. Their 'spell' could be broken.
 

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Bill, I gotta ask ..... what on earth do you take for your blood pressure? I just see a headline like this and I feel like my ears are about to explode.

I agree with you. Bill, how do you do it? I would be on anti-depressents just to get through the day. But thank goodness you are there for us and part of CASAA.
 

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I'm speaking personaly here
The Killeen study is the 'myth-buster'to beat all myth-busters-once 'the beast' gets this study on their radar (if it starts to circulate, and gains acceptance) watch the 'suppression' of it begin. Their 'spell' could be broken.
When you say the Killeen study are you talking about this?
Professor: Nicotine does not cause cigarette addiction | The State Press - An independent daily serving Arizona State University

Because that was years ago.
 

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It was years ago-but science doesn't have a shelf life (well most of it doesn't)

All those Vapers out there that took the report on board and 'tried it out' say "I" ?




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Hulamoon inquired:

Bill, I gotta ask ..... what on earth do you take for your blood pressure?

My blood pressure is so low that several blood banks wouldn't let me donate blood.

I spent the 1980's and 1990's monitoring, exposing and opposing lies by cigarette companies (about the health hazards of inhaling tobacco smoke, and marketing to youth). My work then was influential in mobilizing support to enact smoking bans in workplaces, sharply reduce cigarette marketing to youth, and increase cigarette tax rates, as well as helping to convince attorneys, State AGs and the US DOJ to sue cigarette companies.

For the past decade, I've been monitoring, exposing and opposing lies by anti tobacco extremists who work for drug companies, for drug company funded health, medical and anti tobacco groups, and for federal, state and local governments.

Not sure why I've been obsessed with exposing and confronting lies and liars, but it started when I was little child.

In Kindergarten I upset many classmates when I insisted that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy didn't exist.

When I was twelve, I was thrown out of Sunday school and my parents church for challenging the existence of God, the Devil, Heaven, Hell and other religious doctrines, and for convincing other students to similarly challenge irrational claims made by the Sunday school teacher and the minister.

When I was in high school, after I challenged my math teacher (in front of all other students) about an answer I gave on a test (that she marked as wrong, that I insisted was correct), she doubled down by challenging me to go ask the head of the math department to find out who was correct. After the head of the math department agreed with my answer, my math teacher (who I humiliated in front of her boss) wasn't pleased but acquiesced and gave me 100 on the test.

And when I was in college, I almost inherited a group of Hare Krishna devotees after I publicly challenged their leader's assertions about Hindu doctrines on reincarnation. After the devotees started staring at me like I was their new leader, I knew it was time to leave.

Guess I'm good at identifying inaccurate claims and liars, and publicly exposing and confronting them.
 
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Okay, was just wondering if there was something new from Killeen that I hadn't seen.

I realise everyone is different-for some it may seem like a Zen like leap of faith to go Nic free
Billions, I'll say that again for effect-BILLIONS has been spent to implant a 'belief'-but of course Trillions has been harvested from this investment.
Give it a go-or your money back !-(to coin an old marketing slogan)
 

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I realise everyone is different-for some it may seem like a Zen like leap of faith to go Nic free
Billions, I'll say that again for effect-BILLIONS has been spent to implant a 'belief'-but of course Trillions has been harvested from this investment.
Give it a go-or your money back !-(to coin an old marketing slogan)
Who me?
:)

I already believe that nicotine is not very addictive for most people.
And I already know for certain that I am not addicted to nicotine at this time.

But I have no intention of ever ending my use of nicotine, in spite of that knowledge.
--Nicotine improves memory, concentration, and attention.
--Nicotine also may help prevent Alzheimer's and Parkinson's

I vape about 1ml of 12mg strength nicotine per day, and that won't be changing.
:)
 

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Thanks Bill! LMAO!

May be useless but I used the "feedback form" on the WHO site and asked ...

"The "statement" published above has no references to sources. Where is the research that supports these preposterous allegations?"

Ignoramouses!

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Oooookay. I'm a relative infant in the world of vaping, and even I can smell the crock of .... cooking in their nuthouse kitchen. Seriously? 100mg? Even I know better. Where the heck are they getting these outrageous claims? I'd believe unicorns existed and .... skittles faster than this load of bunk.

Anecdotal evidence, but my girlfriend stopped smoking (thanks to vaping!) and within weeks her lung irritation went down to zero. She got rid of her smoker cough and the nasties that seemed to brew in her respiratory system every few weeks and leave her down and out with a cold or worse. PG being a horrible world ending irritant seems... odd in that light, especially when viewed against traditional cigs which caused the issues. Which they aren't trying to ban... So now I'm confused. Anyone else confused? Apparently cancer sticks aren't nearly as irritating to the lungs, or as dangerous, cause their crusade against analogs is just pitiful by comparison. Stop smoking ads vs legal action. Hmm.

WHO = Whackos Hindering Others
 
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