Why all my RDAs letting me down, am I doing something wrong?

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Hello, recently I bought 2 rda, a fasttech nimbus clone with 3 airholes and a IGO-L.
Both are way too airy, much much more than protank, and both do not produce good vapor, less than all my noob clearos such as kanger t2, evod, vivi etc.
The IGOL came with a 1.8 ohm coil, even at 6V this thing does not make much vapor (with boba's bounty 100% VG!!), I see people even drill holes on this to have more air, I just cant understand, it is already very airy...the only positive thing is that gives better flavor, better than all my other stuffs, which I have a lot.
Please help me, what is wrong with all these RDAs.
 

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do both have three airholes, or just the nimbus clone? how many coils are you using on each? how big are the airholes?

have you tried taking lung-hits? if not, try placing the airholes directly over the coils (cover all but one up if you're only using one coil), fire it a couple times without hitting it to get the coil warmed up, then take a nice deep lung hit.
 

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Everywhere that I have seen the IGO-L doesn't come with a premade coil. Mine came with wick & wire but not premade. So it sounds like you got the "IGO-L" from FastTech? The one from FastTech is a clone. The genuine IGO-L comes with a 1.2mm air hole which isn't airy at all & I don't like airy draws. I got a couple of RDAs from FastTech & even after a session on the mill I don't care for them. You get what you pay for & I won't be buying anymore cheapies from FastTech anymore.
 

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Everywhere that I have seen the IGO-L doesn't come with a premade coil. Mine came with wick & wire but not premade. So it sounds like you got the "IGO-L" from FastTech? The one from FastTech is a clone. The genuine IGO-L comes with a 1.2mm air hole which isn't airy at all & I don't like airy draws. I got a couple of RDAs from FastTech & even after a session on the mill I don't care for them. You get what you pay for & I won't be buying anymore cheapies from FastTech anymore.

Agree with this in general, but the IGO-L from FT is authentic or dang near, and performs very well. Mine came wrapped with a double coil but full of hotspots, so I recoiled it. The airflow was fine but the vape was too harsh. Drilled out the hole to 1/16 and added another 1/16 for the other coil. Broke the 1.1mm bit 3 times trying to pierce that cap, so 1/16 it is, and it works great. It IS airy, but full of vapor, flavor, and much smoother. Love it!
The protank, while sucky for flavor, taught me that I could get used to an airy draw.
 

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Hello, recently I bought 2 RDA, a fasttech nimbus clone with 3 airholes and a IGO-L.
Both are way too airy, much much more than protank, and both do not produce good vapor, less than all my noob clearos such as kanger t2, evod, vivi etc.
The IGOL came with a 1.8 ohm coil, even at 6V this thing does not make much vapor (with boba's bounty 100% VG!!), I see people even drill holes on this to have more air, I just cant understand, it is already very airy...the only positive thing is that gives better flavor, better than all my other stuffs, which I have a lot.
Please help me, what is wrong with all these RDAs.
Can't speak to the nimbus clone, but as I mentioned above, I got the igo-l from FT and its either authentic or a great clone. The problem is, these guys just whip together the coils without testing and tweaking them. If your using the pre-made coil, your vape will suffer. You need to recoil it so the wire is spaced correctly and touching the wick evenly. You can even reuse the same wick and wire. Wrap it, prod it, eliminate the hot legs, and you'll get a good vape, maybe too good. The draw won't seem as airy when its loaded with flavor and vapor
 

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do both have three airholes, or just the nimbus clone? how many coils are you using on each? how big are the airholes?

have you tried taking lung-hits? if not, try placing the airholes directly over the coils (cover all but one up if you're only using one coil), fire it a couple times without hitting it to get the coil warmed up, then take a nice deep lung hit.

Only the nimbus clone has 3 holes, on IGOL I tried double coil and single coil (with the spare coil came with the box), with single coil it seems to give more vapor but nothing significant. And yes I do lung hits, I tried to bend the wick up so the hole would be next to the wick, I dont feel much different.

Do you agree with me that these RDAs are very airy? If so then I am not making any mistake at this point, I just dont like anything airy...
 

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This is what I did and the IgoL is kicking better than my Genesis ATM. Rebuilding AGI RDA Using A Cotton Ball - YouTube I drilled the intake out to 1/16". Cant go any larger on the IgoL I have cause the drip cup gets in the way. Air Makes Vapor! You can also try this method. Vertical Coil - Huge Vapor Production - Air Flow, Air Flow, Air Flow - YouTube Tried both and I like the cotton the best. Cotton can also hold more juice. The vertical:15 drops. Cotton: 25 drops.
Thanks I will check this video later.
 

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Can't speak to the nimbus clone, but as I mentioned above, I got the igo-l from FT and its either authentic or a great clone. The problem is, these guys just whip together the coils without testing and tweaking them. If your using the pre-made coil, your vape will suffer. You need to recoil it so the wire is spaced correctly and touching the wick evenly. You can even reuse the same wick and wire. Wrap it, prod it, eliminate the hot legs, and you'll get a good vape, maybe too good. The draw won't seem as airy when its loaded with flavor and vapor
Thanks Rodeorat, in fact I dumped the premade coil and re-built it with one spare coil in the box, it is getting a little bit better not still too airy and makes me want to cough...I didnot pay any attention to space the wire evenly on the coil, I try that later. Thanks.
 

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Thanks Rodeorat, in fact I dumped the premade coil and re-built it with one spare coil in the box, it is getting a little bit better not still too airy and makes me want to cough...I didnot pay any attention to space the wire evenly on the coil, I try that later. Thanks.

Yeah, my IGO was choking me out. Now that I've drilled them out, it's airy but giving loads of vapor/flavor without the harshness.

What is your PV? Is it a mech? Maybe you're getting too much voltage drop through the PV, so there isn't much being delivered to the IGO? Might need to sand your contacts or charge the battery. If you've built a decent coil, you should be smoldering.
What's your coil details? Wraps, wire gauge, resistance, etc?
 

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Do you agree with me that these RDAs are very airy? If so then I am not making any mistake at this point, I just dont like anything airy...

it sounds like they are pretty airy. i personally do prefer an airy draw, but if you don't like it, 3 holes on a nimbus clone is probably way too much.

also, i think you may not be running enough power for a very airy draw. you said you're running a 1.8 ohm coil at 6 volts, which should be about 20 watts, but unless you have a dna20, you're not going to get 20 watts out of a vv/vw mod. depending on the mod, you're probably somewhere closer to 12-13 watts. at this power, the airy draw will hurt more than help. typically you need an airy draw at around 30 watts or more to keep the vapor from burning your throat, but at the power that a vv/vw can fire, you'll just be keeping the coil cool instead.
 

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it sounds like they are pretty airy. i personally do prefer an airy draw, but if you don't like it, 3 holes on a nimbus clone is probably way too much.

also, i think you may not be running enough power for a very airy draw. you said you're running a 1.8 ohm coil at 6 volts, which should be about 20 watts, but unless you have a dna20, you're not going to get 20 watts out of a vv/vw mod. depending on the mod, you're probably somewhere closer to 12-13 watts. at this power, the airy draw will hurt more than help. typically you need an airy draw at around 30 watts or more to keep the vapor from burning your throat, but at the power that a vv/vw can fire, you'll just be keeping the coil cool instead.

Yes very good point, what mod are you using OP?

BTW OP as you get your clouds bigger and bigger you may want or need to cut down your nic. Also it is going to be airy, almost to the point, if not the point, that you actually have to lung hit it.
 

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dr g:10481634 said:
it sounds like they are pretty airy. i personally do prefer an airy draw, but if you don't like it, 3 holes on a nimbus clone is probably way too much.

also, i think you may not be running enough power for a very airy draw. you said you're running a 1.8 ohm coil at 6 volts, which should be about 20 watts, but unless you have a dna20, you're not going to get 20 watts out of a vv/vw mod. depending on the mod, you're probably somewhere closer to 12-13 watts. at this power, the airy draw will hurt more than help. typically you need an airy draw at around 30 watts or more to keep the vapor from burning your throat, but at the power that a vv/vw can fire, you'll just be keeping the coil cool instead.

Yes very good point, what mod are you using OP?

BTW OP as you get your clouds bigger and bigger you may want or need to cut down your nic. Also it is going to be airy, almost to the point, if not the point, that you actually have to lung hit it.

Bingo......I'm at 6mg and it was choking me. Now that its so airy I have to do lung hits, but I'm liking it.
 

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Times have changed and micro coils have been laying waste to those spring style gapped coils. We learned that smaller diameter coils 1/16" or slightly less are where it's at.

Here's a video where I throw down a micro on a very similar REbuildable Atomizer and thread thru a rolled cotton wick. Try it out and know firsthand why micro coils are blowin up world wide :)
http://youtu.be/TdU74mrLXVA


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Times have changed and micro coils have been laying waste to those spring style gapped coils. We learned that smaller diameter coils 1/16" or slightly less are where it's at.

Here's a video where I throw down a micro on a very similar REbuildable Atomizer and thread thru a rolled cotton wick. Try it out and know firsthand why micro coils are blowin up world wide :)
Easy RM2 micro coil build - YouTube
Shot thru cyberspace with my iGun :)

I have a couple octopus' wired up with micros. The problem I have is they burn through cotton so easily you have to use very little cotton. As such, they dont hold as much juice as a dripper loaded up with silica, which I suppose is why micros are well suited for bottom feeders. My IGO-L has a dual coil with silica wicks, which pretty much cover the drip well. I can put about 20 drops in and flavor and vapor are great. Granted, I'm a believer in cotton for flavor, but not volume.
 
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