I've only been vaping for a couple of months, but never have I had clouds of vapor. In fact it's less than the smoke you get from an analog. Doesn't matter if I'm using a brand new cart, new batt, different flavors, etc. Am I doing something wrong? I'm using an 808.
Why am I not getting clouds and clouds of vapor?
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I have never had any luck with clouds of vapor from an 808, but you might want to try VG it gives off more vapor and less TH.
808s don't make clouds of vapor for two reasons (assuming your battery is new enough and freshly charged):
1) You're using the older style cartomizer. Use either "premium CoolCarts" from vapor4life.com, or "turbo cartomizers" from vapornine.com
2) Your juice is way too Chinese and/or crappy. Try some juices from tastyvapor.us (make sure to get the 4oz doubler @ 70%VG) or from vaporrenu.com (make sure to get the double shot of flavor).
Everything will be OK.
1) You're using the older style cartomizer. Use either "premium CoolCarts" from vapor4life.com, or "turbo cartomizers" from vapornine.com
2) Your juice is way too Chinese and/or crappy. Try some juices from tastyvapor.us (make sure to get the 4oz doubler @ 70%VG) or from vaporrenu.com (make sure to get the double shot of flavor).
Everything will be OK.
My 808's produce tons of vapor with good liquid, which could be your problem. I know several Dekang liquids put out almost zilch, try one of the WoW flavors from Vapor 4 Life with one of their Cool Carts, if that doesn't work your doing something wrong or something it broke 
My 808's produce tons of vapor with good liquid, which could be your problem. I know several Dekang liquids put out almost zilch, try one of the WoW flavors from Vapor 4 Life with one of their Cool Carts, if that doesn't work your doing something wrong or something it broke
Hows about a review of the WoW Vapor liquids you've tried?
I have the KR808D-1 from V4L. I also have their premium/cool cartos. I have used their juice and many other company's juices.
Normal cartos from V4l and other companies produce limited vapor. When i started on the premium cartos, the vapor production increased by 75% IMO. I have never had any premium flavor carto or wow flavor carto not produce a large quantity of vapor.
My main juice/carto is V4L's Peppermint. it has an awesome taste, TH and vapor cloud. I use auto batts (regular size). I charge them once per day and go through 1-2 cartos per day. On a side note, the WoWboy flavor is a tobacco/chocolate/mint blend. very subtle and it is quite good. i personally add some spearmint to it from Rocky Mountain Vapor.....im more of a menthol/mint person
I have used V4L's premium menthol which also produces a large cloud. Same thing with the smilin' menthol juice in a blank premium carto.
I also buy juice from vermont vapor, liquidxpress and halo. Halo's juice produces an okay amount of vapor. Vermont and Liquid were almost as good as V4L wow juice with the vapor production and TH.
the process to find the right flavor and perfect vape situation to fit your needs is a complicated one, IMO. I found that VV cool mint is my go to menthol and V4L peppermint is my other go to mint flavor. i only use V4L's cartos since they are good $$, quick to ship, always good service and offer free-bees every time i have ordered.
All of this is IMO, but this has worked for me.
I hope this helps mate
-cheers
Normal cartos from V4l and other companies produce limited vapor. When i started on the premium cartos, the vapor production increased by 75% IMO. I have never had any premium flavor carto or wow flavor carto not produce a large quantity of vapor.
My main juice/carto is V4L's Peppermint. it has an awesome taste, TH and vapor cloud. I use auto batts (regular size). I charge them once per day and go through 1-2 cartos per day. On a side note, the WoWboy flavor is a tobacco/chocolate/mint blend. very subtle and it is quite good. i personally add some spearmint to it from Rocky Mountain Vapor.....im more of a menthol/mint person
I have used V4L's premium menthol which also produces a large cloud. Same thing with the smilin' menthol juice in a blank premium carto.
I also buy juice from vermont vapor, liquidxpress and halo. Halo's juice produces an okay amount of vapor. Vermont and Liquid were almost as good as V4L wow juice with the vapor production and TH.
the process to find the right flavor and perfect vape situation to fit your needs is a complicated one, IMO. I found that VV cool mint is my go to menthol and V4L peppermint is my other go to mint flavor. i only use V4L's cartos since they are good $$, quick to ship, always good service and offer free-bees every time i have ordered.
All of this is IMO, but this has worked for me.
I hope this helps mate
-cheers
Best bet is to fill your own cartos. VG juices are known for the vapor, smooth TH and thickness in viscosity .While PG juices are known to be more flavorful,more harsh TH and thin in viscosity. Alot of places that mix there own juice use a mixture of both,witch IMO is where its at its best. Also you can use some Turbo cartos from V9,cool cartos from V4L or the premium cartos from litecig. Ive never been able to get great vapor out of a prefilled carto. I fill my own and works like a charm.
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I have to agree with BradSmith. 'Clouds' aren't possible with a standard KR808 - not enough air flow. The XL is much better, and eGo's are a world apart. Sorry.
My KR808's are packed up to take out and look at once in awhile, or to try a sentimental puff on as I remember just how good it's been since movin' up to better models.
My KR808's are packed up to take out and look at once in awhile, or to try a sentimental puff on as I remember just how good it's been since movin' up to better models.
I only use cartomizers both 808 and 510.
The premiums and coolcarts I got from V4L produce TONS of vapor... doesn't matter if I'm using standard kr808 bat, ego or fistpacks. I rarely use prefilled nowadays though... mostly bought juice from Tasty Vapor and Vaporbomb (70%pg/30%vg)
I do have some normal kr808 cartomizers I bought from healthcabin I use to test new flavours I bought. They don't produce as much vapor unless I use it at higher voltage. Remember vaping is not like smoking.... if you take slow long drag you will get more flavour and more vapor =)
The premiums and coolcarts I got from V4L produce TONS of vapor... doesn't matter if I'm using standard kr808 bat, ego or fistpacks. I rarely use prefilled nowadays though... mostly bought juice from Tasty Vapor and Vaporbomb (70%pg/30%vg)
I do have some normal kr808 cartomizers I bought from healthcabin I use to test new flavours I bought. They don't produce as much vapor unless I use it at higher voltage. Remember vaping is not like smoking.... if you take slow long drag you will get more flavour and more vapor =)
I have to disagree on this one. here is a video i just took of my KR808D-1 Vapor king with about 75% charge and a peppermint wow carto (that i filled) which has about 60% juice left in it.
The amount of vapor, IMO, is quite good.
YouTube - KR808D-1 Vapor from wow peppermint juice carto
All I use is old style 808's, (hard capped). I use a 50/50 mix from Vaporbomb, and produce TONS of vapor.
I started with the premium cartos from V4L, but they clog quick and are pretty much junk. I tried a cheap 808, and that style has been working great ever since. But, i also use a GLV2 at 6v. But even when I was using my ego's, the 808's had tremendous vapor. I have always used a 510 connection with an adapter, so I could adjust the airflow.
This is a regular,cheap style 808 carto and 50/50 mix:
I started with the premium cartos from V4L, but they clog quick and are pretty much junk. I tried a cheap 808, and that style has been working great ever since. But, i also use a GLV2 at 6v. But even when I was using my ego's, the 808's had tremendous vapor. I have always used a 510 connection with an adapter, so I could adjust the airflow.
This is a regular,cheap style 808 carto and 50/50 mix:
All I use is old style 808's, (hard capped). I use a 50/50 mix from Vaporbomb, and produce TONS of vapor.
I started with the premium cartos from V4L, but they clog quick and are pretty much junk. I tried a cheap 808, and that style has been working great ever since. But, i also use a GLV2 at 6v. But even when I was using my ego's, the 808's had tremendous vapor. I have always used a 510 connection with an adapter, so I could adjust the airflow.
This is a regular,cheap style 808 carto and 50/50 mix:
Can't even see you there mate lol
hell yeah, especially a hard cap. I had nothing but mild vapor production with those. /salute to the king
hell yeah, especially a hard cap. I had nothing but mild vapor production with those. /salute to the king
salute to the 6v...
Thanks, guys for all your insights.
I just received my first PT, and wow what a difference in TH and vapor!
I just received my first PT, and wow what a difference in TH and vapor!
I have the KR808D-1 from V4L. I also have their premium/cool cartos. I have used their juice and many other company's juices.
Normal cartos from V4l and other companies produce limited vapor. When i started on the premium cartos, the vapor production increased by 75% IMO. I have never had any premium flavor carto or wow flavor carto not produce a large quantity of vapor.
My main juice/carto is V4L's Peppermint. it has an awesome taste, TH and vapor cloud. I use auto batts (regular size). I charge them once per day and go through 1-2 cartos per day. On a side note, the WoWboy flavor is a tobacco/chocolate/mint blend. very subtle and it is quite good. i personally add some spearmint to it from Rocky Mountain Vapor.....im more of a menthol/mint person
I have used V4L's premium menthol which also produces a large cloud. Same thing with the smilin' menthol juice in a blank premium carto.
I also buy juice from vermont vapor, liquidxpress and halo. Halo's juice produces an okay amount of vapor. Vermont and Liquid were almost as good as V4L wow juice with the vapor production and TH.
the process to find the right flavor and perfect vape situation to fit your needs is a complicated one, IMO. I found that VV cool mint is my go to menthol and V4L peppermint is my other go to mint flavor. i only use V4L's cartos since they are good $$, quick to ship, always good service and offer free-bees every time i have ordered.
All of this is IMO, but this has worked for me.
I hope this helps mate
-cheers
I use prefilled Dunhall Menthol cartos and refill with the same juice. I have 2 short batteries and 1 regular all from V4L. I have never produced anything but clouds of vapor (except when the carto is running dry or the battery is about to need charging. One thing that may help is to always keep your cartos TOPPED OFF.
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Thanks, cerver7, for your review of some e-liquids. I just ordered several sample bottles from Vermont Vapor.
Glad to hear. I hope that you enjoy them. The juice hunt is a tough one and personally i think the menthol hunt is the hardest out of them all. Most have that medicine vicks vapor rub taste and some have barley no menthol at all.
I listened to a lot of people on this forum and bought quite a fair amount of juice. I stilll have 2 30ML bottles from halo that people said was GREAT, i found it to be weak and just meh.
Everyone has their own tastebuds and opinions. I was grateful for the help that they had given me, its just tough when you have lots of juice that you don't use. So i understand what you are going through. i just hope you like VV as much as i do.
FYI, i take a 3ml bottle, fill it up 75% with VV cool mint and fill 20% with spearmint from Rocky Mountain Vapor and then add 1 menthol drop. This is a nice blend that i tend to enjoy.
Hope any of this helps you
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