I was going to list vg content as second. mainly because on whatever setup you have, and whatever ratio of juice you have, adjusting the airflow will give you the single biggest increase in clouds. IMHO.
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I've had plenty of clouds at PG/VG 80/20 or 70/30 - but then I haven't had any airflow problems. VG is the biggest difference I've noticed.
With the same good airflow - its the VG change that changes the vapor amount.
Keep optimal airflow constant and adjust - you see the difference. So - airflow stays constant but VG changes and vapor production changes.
In other words, if as you say, adjusting the airflow give increase, then we can say at 30 % VG adjusting the airflow for the attachment gave increase. Keeping that airflow adjusted, but add 50% VG - even more vapor.
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You are giving these guys way to much credit most are using a inexpensive web cam in their kitchen and the trick lighting is a 60 watt GE bulb.
The coils in a Geny RBA RDA ect... are lots bigger than the coils of a stalk set up. Also air flow comes in to play big clouds are a products of tweaking what you can buy from the store.
They are very obtainable you dont have to make a deal with the dark side or have mystical powers just do some research and put in some time and threw trial and error you will learn how to make a nice preforming set up.
Or if your happy with your set up keep buying off the shelf stuff and pretend those big clouds are just smoke and mirrors as some people do.
Such a variety of theories here...
Has anyone considered humidity? We are blowing out water vapour when we vape, after all...
For me, I am not at all concerned about the volume of vapour. I would much rather have a juice that has good flavour and throat hit then one that draws unwanted attention when I am vaping in public. I see vapour production as just a vanity thing.
Has anyone considered humidity? We are blowing out water vapour when we vape, after all...
For me, I am not at all concerned about the volume of vapour. I would much rather have a juice that has good flavour and throat hit then one that draws unwanted attention when I am vaping in public. I see vapour production as just a vanity thing.
And yet for some-one else it can be a psychological benefit that helps them stay off cigs. Different aspects of vaping work for different people. Me - flavour and vapor. I never really needed huge clouds but I get them anyway.
You are exactly right. Most of the time I am using absurdly low amounts of nicotine and don't inhale. The vapor is a hugely important factor for me and vaping in the dark (or in high winds) just doesn't cut it.
I know what you mean about the high winds. We've been having some extreme weather here this week.
Exactly, I just want that same satisfaction I got from smoking. That's the part I always enjoyed, the feeling going down my throat into the lungs. The rest of it was just the necessary evil to get that sensation. I've found that and have no desire to vape @ 400 watts
This video is full of LOLOMGWTF awesome.
Or maybe some people just like lots of vapor.What others think is up to them I can tell you this If I saw a guy standing there blowing a wimpy mouth full of steam out and beside him a guy blowing a nice big cloud as a smoker Id be interested in what the guy with the nice big cloud is using.
I think Humidity makes the vapor hang around longer where as in a dry climate it dissipates quicker but the volume coming out is about the same.
IT dose not have to be a bad or a good thing its just what you prefer I say live and let live. The cloud blowers should be able to enjoy their thing as well as the guy who is perfectly content with his blu.
Perhaps that came out a bit too strong.
What I meant is that I, personally, see maximum vapour production as somewhat more cosmetic then functional. This is different for each person of course.
The problem that I see is when we are vaping in public. How does a huge cloud of vapour look to those about us?
If a person, who has no strong views on vaping, had to walk through a tremendous cloud of vapour to get past us, does this introduce even a tiny bit of negativity towards vaping in their mind.
You may be thinking that it is harmless and that you are not doing anything illegal. I would agree with you but a non-vaper might not.
Public perception is very important at this point so I question the need for massive vapour production by those who do so just so they can say how big a cloud they can produce.
If you need to see lots of vapour, then have at it.
Just think back to your smoking days. Did your cigarettes produce the massive clouds you are now seeking?
What I meant is that I, personally, see maximum vapour production as somewhat more cosmetic then functional. This is different for each person of course.
The problem that I see is when we are vaping in public. How does a huge cloud of vapour look to those about us?
If a person, who has no strong views on vaping, had to walk through a tremendous cloud of vapour to get past us, does this introduce even a tiny bit of negativity towards vaping in their mind.
You may be thinking that it is harmless and that you are not doing anything illegal. I would agree with you but a non-vaper might not.
Public perception is very important at this point so I question the need for massive vapour production by those who do so just so they can say how big a cloud they can produce.
If you need to see lots of vapour, then have at it.
Just think back to your smoking days. Did your cigarettes produce the massive clouds you are now seeking?
I think you're still overstating it. We're all adults here and can assess the situation we're vaping in. Personally I am not creating huge clouds of vapour in all situations - I can draw a bit less and exhale a bit less if I want to. At the same time you're suggestion becomes a bit - well - paranoid inducing really. I've never had anyone have to walk through a tremendous cloud of vapour. I doubt this is the norm for people vaping in public places. Public perception is important - at the same time I want to enjoy the vape and not be hung up that maybe I blew out a bit much vapour on that last draw. People around me known that I don't smoke anymore and are positive about that.
a little dramatic description but non the less you are right if your blowing vapor and people have to walk threw it Im sure someone will not like it. As with most things a little courtesy for the next guy goes along way.
There are self centered
hole people who are vapors just like with any thing. We all like music but most of us dont like the jerk who is polluting our space with their music. We are comparing vaping to smoking but really they are two different things. By doing this we are guilty of what we hate, being lumped in with smokers.
Public perception is what it is if you see a guy with a huge mod who has tattoos on his face and a bone in his nose most people think weirdo.
If you see a guy in a suit with a blu most people wont think twice.
In reality we know nothing about ether person, who is the more intelligent, honest, better all around person. But we form an opinion instantly with out knowing any facts its just how people are.
Our only way to over come a poor public opinion is education.
I love big clouds. But if you want them you will need high VG juice and an RBA. Oh, and a sloooow draw. Big clouds are, in my humble opinion, more than just show, big clouds = big flavor.
Edit: It should be noted I only chase clouds at home. In public, I try to be discrete. (Of course, my RBA stays at home, on the road I use my ego with a Kanger T3.)
Edit: It should be noted I only chase clouds at home. In public, I try to be discrete. (Of course, my RBA stays at home, on the road I use my ego with a Kanger T3.)
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big flavor and big nic. with the bigger clouds, I can get by with much lower nicotine levels in my juice as I seem to get more nicotine out of the clouds. I DIY and nicotine is the most expensive ingredient. I also agree wholeheartedly that there is a mental aspect to seeing the clouds, which are more similar to cig smoke.
anyone here try ecigs when they just came out? like the very first blu cig type ones? if i remember correctly, they worked decently as far as nicotine delivery, but there was hardly any vapor. for me, that made them completely unsatisfying from a psychological standpoint, and i went straight back to the analogs for another 4 years before i picked up my first ego. i have no illusions that, if the ego didn't produce at least as much 'smoke' as a real ciggy, i would've given it up just as fast as the first time around.
i'm sure there are many who are fine with just getting their nic fix, but for me, the vapor production was a very big part of replacing the habit with a (hopefully) much less harmful one.
And now OP chimes in again...
Lotsa food for thought here. Thanks all.
To repeat and/or clarify:
I don't really give a rats azz about clouds per se. My point was really something like:
"If I only get 10% of the clouds i see in videos, then maybe i'm only getting 10% of the flavor as well." Or, more to the point "Maybe I'm only getting 10% of the benefits that keep me from going back to analogs"
It kinda sucks that out of VTF (vapor, throat hit, flavor), clouds is the only one that can really translate from one person to another.
Lotsa food for thought here. Thanks all.
To repeat and/or clarify:
I don't really give a rats azz about clouds per se. My point was really something like:
"If I only get 10% of the clouds i see in videos, then maybe i'm only getting 10% of the flavor as well." Or, more to the point "Maybe I'm only getting 10% of the benefits that keep me from going back to analogs"
It kinda sucks that out of VTF (vapor, throat hit, flavor), clouds is the only one that can really translate from one person to another.
Get a mod. And a 4 volt battery from ebay and a charger for it.I rum my protank at 0.8 ohms and it plums out smoke.but nothing compared to my duel coil aga t2 and ithake.
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