Why couldn't i use non rechargeable batteries?

[flagreekguy]

If i'm not a RE RE and i don't try and recharge them, what would be the harm of using NON RECHARGEABLE CR 123 a batteries? what would be the issues? how is this anymore dangerous than rechargeable 123 batteries?

Also, if someone could help, i went to batteries plus and they had two of these.
http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/di...-2-3a-3v-rechargeable-battery-li-ion-ulcr123r

Are these safe? if so please let me know..

 

[flagreekguy]

bump, i could use some help 8)

 

[cappadoc]

I would think they are safe, but very expensive for about 7 hours vape time. Never tried it. Are you talking about a 6V mod with 2 of these? 3V in a single cell wouldn't be a very good vape. The normal Li ion are 3.7V and I find that a little weak.

 

[flagreekguy]

I would think they are safe, but very expensive for about 7 hours vape time. Never tried it. Are you talking about a 6V mod with 2 of these? 3V in a single cell wouldn't be a very good vape. The normal Li ion are 3.7V and I find that a little weak.

i'm talking about stacking these to get 6volts.

Maybe i should move this quesetion to another section in ECF.

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

My friend travels a lot for the company. He's used non-rechargables several times in a pinch. No problems.

 

[THICKFOG]

Why would you want the expense of non-rechargeable batteries..

 

[Darkwitless]

flagreekguy: you might want to post this in the Tech section and not the new vapors section.

 

[flagreekguy]

thick, in all honesty i wanted to see if i'd like the 6v vaping experience and i know i can go pick them up at radio shack across the street. if i liked the vaping experience then i'd simply order them online and wait for them to come in.

 

[Drozd]

in all honesty it's a gamble...

there has been at least one instance of a chuck blowing up because the user was using non rechargeable cr123s stacked...

you don't know if these are protected or not there's no indication as to the max drain rate.... you're not a regular 6V vaper so you're unfamiliar with the behavior of the batteries at 6V and how to tell if you're overdriving them or if they're getting too hot... you're unfamilar with the QC of the different nonrechargeables...

any of these things could cause th temperature of the cells to rise to the point where they enter thermal runaway...and once they're in thermal runaway there's going to be an "incident"

honestly I'd advise against it...

it may be less risky for vapers who are regular 6V users to get away with occasionally running non rechargeables in a pinch ...but I'd highly advise against it for the first time trying 6V...

 

[Innovator]

I picked up non-rechargeable cr123a's for my first mod. I didn't want to wait for shipping after I placed an order online because i was too curious to see if my mod would work and how well the 6 volts hits. It's still new so I haven't had a chance to test it much, but I've run into no problems and with my [amateur] understanding of batteries I don't see why it'd be a problem. That said, it did suck to pay that price for batteries i'll burn through soon

 

[flagreekguy]

What kind of mod do you have?

 

[Throwrats]

YouTube - Lithium battery in ice block explodes

Well so much for my super ice vaporizer i had planned.....

 

[flagreekguy]

So even if i didnt try and recharge them, and i DIDNT use a low res atty on them, there is still a chance of them blowing up? that's just strange...

 

[Innovator]

What kind of mod do you have?

It's just a $6 flashlight mod from this post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/133666-my-first-flashlight-mod-d-b.html It was pretty simple and easy, all things considered

Well so much for my super ice vaporizer i had planned.....

LOL

 

[enree]

I have tried using 3 AA of 1.2 v rechargeable batteries and they worked fine. You have to do your own mod though.

 

[Drozd]

So even if i didnt try and recharge them, and i DIDNT use a low res atty on them, there is still a chance of them blowing up? that's just strange...

yes because the batteries still have a max discharge rate (in amps)

and whatever atty you're using at 6V still has an amp draw

if that amp draw is higher than the max drain rate of the batteries ..those batteries are being drained full out, in fact being overstressed, and that raises the temperature of the cells....

now protected batteries have several safety features to protect against the cells getting too hot and going into thermal runaway (where the chemicals in the cell get too hot and become unstable causing a reaction)
the cobalt in them oxydizes and they vent with flames...

and the non rechargeables don't have all those safety features because they are disposeables...

 

[Drozd]

YouTube - Lithium battery in ice block explodes

Well so much for my super ice vaporizer i had planned.....

lol....just use these:

yup that's a 3V battery running a Lux I LED array from under water

 

[flagreekguy]

yes because the batteries still have a max discharge rate (in amps)

and whatever atty you're using at 6V still has an amp draw

if that amp draw is higher than the max drain rate of the batteries ..those batteries are being drained full out, in fact being overstressed, and that raises the temperature of the cells....

now protected batteries have several safety features to protect against the cells getting too hot and going into thermal runaway (where the chemicals in the cell get too hot and become unstable causing a reaction)
the cobalt in them oxydizes and they vent with flames...

and the non rechargeables don't have all those safety features because they are disposeables...

I have taken your advice and ordered some off cloudsofvapor.com 8)

 

[DaMulta]

I like surefire non-rechargeable batteries more than anything. They last forever!!!! DAYS at high use, and when your done you just throw them away.

You can get a box at surefires website for about 20 bones.

They are safer than non-recharables at least to me. You just have to make sure you get ones that can handle the load, and those can. Most high-end flashlights don't even want you too mess with rechargeable cause they are more prone to go boom.

 

[Bozzlite]

There shouldn't be a problem using primarys, it's just that it would be very expensive.

And don't mix batteries. Use only primarys with primarys and rechargeables with rechargeables if your device requires more than one battery. Don't mix brands or used batteries with new, etc.