Why do so many people like vaping at low ohms?

[ClippinWings]

I been vapin for a long time at low ohms. I prefer it more than 6volts. There is nothing finer than having an extreme wet moisturized flavorful vape at .6 ohms at 3.8 volts. Very safe with the right 18650 batteries. In this setup your only using about 6.7 amps and on 18650 goes past 10 amps. Very safe and a wonderful vape.
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Be careful saying "Very Safe"

You are indirectly responding to a user who can't keep watts and volts straight
(not a knock on Sharon, just an observation, we were all there once)

I think advanced users need to start being more mindful of their audience... and make a point to cover the inherent risks involved especially when new vapers may be reading....

 

[aPandaz]

I've met people with sub-ohm setups that have no idea of battery safety. AW IMR is safe chemistry...but that doesn't mean completely safe. Be aware of the amp limits on your battery. I vape on sub ohm coils and mech mods because I find the flavor, throat hit, and vapor production more pleasing than any other set up I have tried. I found clearos and cartomizers would give me a burnt taste when turning up the voltage. I immediately dropped from 12mg to 6mg because the nicotine seems to hit much harder. I was getting nic sick from vaping on 12mg.

 

[dhomes]

I like the sub ohms a lot as it hits (heat the coil) very very fast, giving a more cigarette-like feeling.

On a Genesis with 1.5 ohm+ it takes a second or two for the vapor to really come out to where I like it.

vapor is also warmer which I prefer over a colder one

I'm using a dual coil kanthal 28 wire on an igo-l right this moment , total resistance -> .4 ohms

I'm a bit concerned about safety although I'm using Panasonic NCR18650PD (and CH as well) which most people regard as the best and safest (AW use Panasonic cells as I understand). At no moment has the battery itself gotten warm at all, even if firing it for 10 seconds in this setup

 

[Kemosabe]

With 28 gauge wire.
I vape .8 coils.

The vape is COOLER, More flavorful and far more dense than I got on eGos with 1.7 Ohm 510 Attys

I honestly think it may be virtually impossible to burn juice in this setup... I can vape it dry and get a nasty silica hit... But the juice itself doesn't really burn... I mean after a couple days I get residue on the coil, but never a burnt taste and I can just dry burn it off... And I'm good to go

There is literally so much more vapor, I had to cut my nicotine from 18mg to 12mg... Vaping 18 with clouds like this made me physically ill. LOL

I didn't understand people claiming 20+ watts didn't burn juice until I tried it... It made no sense to me, because I used to burn juice at 10 watts... Using VV devices.

The wire gauge is a HUGE factor that most people never even consider.

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I really want to experience the vape nirvana of sub-ohm gennys. i dont get it though. my .9Ω coil did indeed taste burnt to me. maybe my wick was crap? it was #500 but it wasnt rolled super tight. does the wick have to be ultra tight for sub-ohmers? maybe theres some other tricks too...

im sad to report that the following post is true for me, not the inverse.

I'd mentioned this in another thread; but, hey . . . . . . I've never heard anyone say, "yeah, I was vaping sub-ohm; but then I tried this 2.5Ω on a VAMO, and, man, that's way better!" (heard the inverse a lot)

 

[jasl90]

Ugh, I'm so confused. All I know about ohms is you double them to match what watts you're using. Ex, I have a 2.0 ohm clearo, so turn my batt to 4 watts.

But now I'm reading you're doing low ohms with higher watts... So I don't understand why that works.

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That only applies if you are using a certain gauge of wire in your atomizer. Since most off the shelf atomizers (cartos, clearos, 510 attys,,, they're all atomizers) use fairly thin wire (usually 36 or 38 gauge if I recall correctly), you can use little rules of thumb like that.

Once you start getting into the world of RBAs, where coils are typically wound using much thicker wire, the little rules like that fall apart and are no longer applicable. The fact is that you can have two coils, both with the same resistance but wound with two different wire gauges, perform completely different. The one wound with thicker wire will need a good deal more power than the one wrapped with thinner wire.

gdeal started a pretty good thread on this very subject. If you can make from beginning to end and understand what's being said, you'll have a pretty good idea about what's going on... Watts do not matter. Its all about wire temp. Read on…

HTH...

 

[SharonMM]

That only applies if you are using a certain gauge of wire in your atomizer. Since most off the shelf atomizers (cartos, clearos, 510 attys,,, they're all atomizers) use fairly thin wire (usually 36 or 38 gauge if I recall correctly), you can use little rules of thumb like that.

Once you start getting into the world of RBAs, where coils are typically wound using much thicker wire, the little rules like that fall apart and are no longer applicable. The fact is that you can have two coils, both with the same resistance but wound with two different wire gauges, perform completely different. The one wound with thicker wire will need a good deal more power than the one wrapped with thinner wire.

gdeal started a pretty good thread on this very subject. If you can make from beginning to end and understand what's being said, you'll have a pretty good idea about what's going on... Watts do not matter. Its all about wire temp. Read on…

HTH...

Thanks, i will have to read up on it some (a lot) more. Sorry to stumble into your advanced people thread... I was half in the bag and they seemed like good questions at the time. Although a simple explanation like, "we are using different wires, the rules dont apply to these" would have probably pacified my curiosity earlier. But hey, now I know!

Sorry to the guy who got 'a talking to' on my behalf. In your defense, most people aren't as clueless as I, and even if they are, they're at least bright enough to keep quiet about it. I guess I am exceptional in that way.

 

[ClippinWings]

Thanks, i will have to read up on it some (a lot) more. Sorry to stumble into your advanced people thread... I was half in the bag and they seemed like good questions at the time. Although a simple explanation like, "we are using different wires, the rules dont apply to these" would have probably pacified my curiosity earlier. But hey, now I know!

Sorry to the guy who got 'a talking to' on my behalf. In your defense, most people aren't as clueless as I, and even if they are, they're at least bright enough to keep quiet about it. I guess I am exceptional in that way.

It wasn't really 'on your behalf'... more 'out of concern for'... I've seen some pretty clueless people running dangerous setups... I just feel as someone with experience, I (and the poster, i pointed it out to) have a responsibility, when passing on that knowledge, to make sure people know what they are getting in to.

 

[jasl90]

Thanks, i will have to read up on it some (a lot) more. Sorry to stumble into your advanced people thread... I was half in the bag and they seemed like good questions at the time. Although a simple explanation like, "we are using different wires, the rules dont apply to these" would have probably pacified my curiosity earlier. But hey, now I know!

Sorry to the guy who got 'a talking to' on my behalf. In your defense, most people aren't as clueless as I, and even if they are, they're at least bright enough to keep quiet about it. I guess I am exceptional in that way.

Actually I thought you had a good question and didn't see anyone giving you a good answer. People try to make it sound as though RBA coils are somehow magically different than the coils used in off the shelf attys... They're not. If you wanted to, you could get some 38 gauge wire and recreate the "off the shelf experience" in your RBA.

Don't apologize for posting in any thread. Asking a question when you don't know an answer in a sign of intelligence. Beats the hell out of making something up out of thin air or regurgitating some of the nonsense that gets tossed around.

FYI... There is no mystical, kung fu, art of coil wrapping that says you have to be an experienced vapor to make the leap into RBAs. It's just a matter of understanding a few basic concepts, a little common sense and a little practice.

Sure there are little nuances that can take time to discover but that's what makes it fun.

 

[Statistic]

The simple answer to the OP's question is... BECAUSE IT'S AWESOME

 

[varivapr]

Hottter coil=more vaper. Higher wattage=hotter coil. Lower resistance=higher wattage. This applies to mechanical running 3.7-4.2v. As long as your wick can keep up and not dry out sub ohm coils are awsome. Ive been using exclusivly genesis attys with ss mesh and subohm coils for some time now but just picked up an Ithaka and have not set it down. I run 2x 1ohm coils for a total resistance of .5ohm. Wick easily keeps up without even having to open the feed all the way. I may be leaving the genesis world for good. And the best part. They DONT leak

 

[ClippinWings]

Hottter coil=more vaper. Higher wattage=hotter coil. Lower resistance=higher wattage. This applies to mechanical running 3.7-4.2v. As long as your wick can keep up and not dry out sub ohm coils are awsome. Ive been using exclusivly genesis attys with ss mesh and subohm coils for some time now but just picked up an Ithaka and have not set it down. I run 2x 1ohm coils for a total resistance of .5ohm. Wick easily keeps up without even having to open the feed all the way. I may be leaving the genesis world for good. And the best part. They DONT leak

There is A LOT more to it than that.

For instance... My 28 gauge coil at 0.8 produces way more vapor, cooler than a 0.8 coil made with 32 gauge wire...

Surface area is a huge factor in vapor production and heat. In fact Wire gauge and shape(round vs ribbon) is probably just as big if not a bigger factor in the final vape than resistance. Your dual coil (twice the surface area) 0.5 demonstrates that clearly.

 

[varivapr]

Of course there is more to it. Much more. I was just simplifying as much as possible and trying to answer the question of why low ohms. You could name 100 other things that effect vapor production but I was speaking about resistance only

 

[RosaJ]

Here's another thread dealing with the same subject:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-do-many-people-seem-favor-low-ohm-coils.html

 

[ClippinWings]

Of course there is more to it. Much more. I was just simplifying as much as possible and trying to answer the question of why low ohms. You could name 100 other things that effect vapor production but I was speaking about resistance only

fair enough... I just took issue with:

Hottter coil=more vaper. Higher wattage=hotter coil. Lower resistance=higher wattage.

Because many people, myself included do not like a hotter vape... and I've found I can only achieve a thick, cool vape with sub 1.0 resistance.

 

[The Yeti]

To answer the OPs question:

 

[jasl90]

fair enough... I just took issue with:



Because many people, myself included do not like a hotter vape... and I've found I can only achieve a thick, cool vape with sub 1.0 resistance.

Sub 1 ohm isn't what's giving the "cool" vape. It's the fact that you're using a thicker gauge wire that requires more power to reach a given temperature. What varivapr said is true, all other things held equal, the lower you take the resistance the hotter the coil will be.

Using that same wire, you could get an even cooler vape my increasing the resistance. Or, you could a similar vape by using a thinner wire and increasing the resistance.

 

[ClippinWings]

Sub 1 ohm isn't what's giving the "cool" vape. It's the fact that you're using a thicker gauge wire that requires more power to reach a given temperature. What varivapr said is true, all other things held equal, the lower you take the resistance the hotter the coil will be.

Using that same wire, you could get an even cooler vape my increasing the resistance. Or, you could a similar vape by using a thinner wire and increasing the resistance.

I know this... which was the whole point my complaint:

For instance... My 28 gauge coil at 0.8 produces way more vapor, cooler than a 0.8 coil made with 32 gauge wire...

Surface area is a huge factor in vapor production and heat. In fact Wire gauge and shape(round vs ribbon) is probably just as big if not a bigger factor in the final vape than resistance. Your dual coil (twice the surface area) 0.5 demonstrates that clearly.

I like a TON of vapor, a TON of Flavor, and a cooler vape... Sub-Ohm coils on thick wire achieves this.

 

[vapdivrr]

for people used to a certain wattage, lets say in the low to medium range, sub one coils may not be your cup of tea, but for those vaping high wattage and high voltages you may want to compare. if your vaping a 2.5Ω coil at 5-6v with 32g wire and were to try a sub one coil with 28g wire at a comparable wattage you probably will never go back to the 2.5 Ω set-up. for high wattage vaping sub-one coils are the only way to go. i would say its because of two reasons, one its the thicker wire, the thicker wire handles the power much better and doesnt pin point all the heat into a smaller area like a thinner wire would, it kind of spreads or disperses this heat on the wick to a larger area per wrap, (wire temperature). also sub-one coils uses lower voltages. imo higher volts running through a ss wick will produce a slight metalic taste and a much harsher vape.

 

[MikeJA]

Easy answer for me. Low ohm coils on mech mods are the most enjoyable vape I've found so far.

 

[ClippinWings]

I really want to experience the vape nirvana of sub-ohm gennys. i dont get it though. (

Sorry I'm a Dripper... But the theory is the same.

0.9 doesn't tell us much... what gauge wire are you using... also, if you have hot spots it can burn juice...

Being a Dripper take away the hot spot issue for the most part.