Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.

[USMCotaku]

The problem with that simile is the people you are talking about would also be using spoons, of a different type, so nice try on the veiled condescension. It's more like you are happy with your teaspoon, when others wish for a table spoon.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[Dampmaskin]

Everything in this world can be faulted for not being what it is not. Absolutely everything.

Not all criticism has value, or contains traces of intelligence. Some of it is just pure, white noise.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[USMCotaku]

The pros and cons to these devices is very subjective. What one person likes about a device, someone else will dislike. My advice.... If someone doesn't wish to hear a person's criticism, it would probably be best to not enter a thread that is obviously criticism in the title.

Nuff said
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[imsoenthused]

The pros and cons to these devices is very subjective. What one person likes about a device, someone else will dislike. My advice.... If someone doesn't wish to hear a person's criticism, it would probably be best to not enter a thread that is obviously criticism in the title.

Nuff said
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

If it mentions ProVari it's automatically their thread apparently. Also, any criticisms are biased attacks, and any opposing opinions are wrong. In fact, if you don't put one of your many ProVaris down on the shrine that holds the rest of them every night and humbly beg them to forgive those weak, misguided fools who refuse to bask in their mighty glory and partake of the one and only ordained sacred, correct vape, just assume you are wrong. Oh, and probably stupid, involved in risky behavior, incapable of appreciating true quality, too poor to afford anything nice, etc. I especially love being told that I don't even have a place in the conversation, as someone who owns and used a ProVari exclusively for years. Pretty much par for the course in a ProVari thread. Anybody trying to have a genuine discussion just gets ground up in the mix.

 

[DPLongo22]

But MC, you KNOW this about Provari, and it's NOT like it used to be, where there were only a few great devices. Three years ago, I'd get it. You want Provape to make something for you. But today? Today there are SO MANY great devices that you can walk right on past to the next thing - the thing that DOES give you what you need/want.

Reos don't do it for me. Would I LIKE for them to make something that fits my needs/style? Well, sure. Do I give a second's thought (other than as a relevant analogy in cases like this)? Mmm - no. And I'm never found in their threads lamenting over it. Nor would I be.

You're a marine, son. I KNOW you're tougher than this ;-)

And are you saying that you haven't found something that fits you? If that's the case, heck - I'd even be glad to help you identify it. But if it's not the case, well then, you're just looking to stir up trouble. In which case I'd repeat - you're a marine, son...

 

[wonner]

The pros and cons to these devices is very subjective....

The pros and cons of everything is very subjective. So the point is?

Nuff said....

This is an Internet forum. Ain't gonna happen.

 

[tj99959]

If it mentions ProVari it's automatically their thread apparently. Also, any criticisms are biased attacks, and any opposing opinions are wrong. In fact, if you don't put one of your many ProVaris down on the shrine that holds the rest of them every night and humbly beg them to forgive those weak, misguided fools who refuse to bask in their mighty glory and partake of the one and only ordained sacred, correct vape, just assume you are wrong. Oh, and probably stupid, involved in risky behavior, incapable of appreciating true quality, too poor to afford anything nice, etc. I especially love being told that I don't even have a place in the conversation, as someone who owns and used a ProVari exclusively for years. Pretty much par for the course in a ProVari thread. Anybody trying to have a genuine discussion just gets ground up in the mix.

This is exactly the type of condescending post that I find objectionable! I treat my Provari the same as I treat any other PV! (and I have lots of other PVs) Some of which cost a hell of a lot more than the Provari!

add:
I won't be buying a P3 for the exact same reason that I won't be buying a DNA40, or a Hana, or a ........ I don't need it!




and you wonder why Provari owners get their panties in a wad

 

[stevegmu]

I am bored with the not enough power discussions. Can one of the haters come up with another reason why they will never buy a P3?

 

[Pinggolfer]

The pros and cons to these devices is very subjective. What one person likes about a device, someone else will dislike. My advice.... If someone doesn't wish to hear a person's criticism, it would probably be best to not enter a thread that is obviously criticism in the title.

Nuff said
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

My advise is since you never owned a Provari, but have a 11 watt VV3's which you still use as I do on occasion, why make a big deal deal of 20 watts? If you owned a Provari and hated it by all means reveal the details, if not it's simple you made your point and now move on. They must be dozens of mods which start at 30 watts which is your magic number now. Find them and find out what mod fits your vaping needs. To continually and I do mean continually put down ProVari is over kill. No matter how many posts you make on this thread you are not going to make me or other Provari owns agree with your logic.

You talk about the subject but the OP made one post on this thread, the first one. What does that tell you?

 

[Pinggolfer]

I am bored with the not enough power discussions. Can one of the haters come up with another reason why they will never buy a P3?

Perfect question and the answer is no they can't.

 

[440BB]

In fact, if you don't put one of your many ProVaris down on the shrine that holds the rest of them every night and humbly beg them to forgive those weak, misguided fools who refuse to bask in their mighty glory and partake of the one and only ordained sacred, correct vape, just assume you are wrong.

I'm kind of new to the ProVari, so I'm still learning. Anybody got a link to the shrine?

 

[DaveSignal]

As I float off on my old skool iceberg, I tip my cap to you. I really do believe (really do) that most of us picked up a vape as an alternative to smoking cigarettes, not because we were in need of a new skateboard.

If and when you tire of your new hobby, your advanced, extreme hobby, we'll still be here doing what we do, in order not to smoke. Forgive me, but I thought that's what vaping was all about.

Perhaps there is a place in this forum for the extreme "sport" of vaping?

I used to smoke cigarettes as well. But I don't think vaping should be looked at as something people do as a compromise because they love smoking and are addicted to a drug and don't have much will-power.

It is NOT a compromise for me. I love the flavor and I love the vapor. My vaping doesn't resemble cigarette smoking. I don't vape tobacco flavored liquids and my devices don't resemble cigarettes. But it feels great and it tastes great and it drives me to keep pursuing more, keep trying different coil builds, keep testing new liquids. It is not something that I think, "well... since I can't have the real thing, i will settle for this instead." I am not simulating smoking a cigarette, I am vaping. And I am driven to pursue the vapor, pursue the flavor. The Provari restricts my pursuit. It is only a "compromise" device. And thats why I avoid it.

 

[stevegmu]

The power issue comes up on the VW forum I am on all the time. The WRX and Ford Sti kids go on and on about how the new Gti is underpowered- why they keep posting in Gti threads, I don't know. On paper, the Sti and WRX beats the Gti, yet the Gti wins out on the car magazine shoot outs more often than not. Why? Is isn't the fastest, nor can pull the most Gs on the skid pad, but it is refined, smooth, has the interior feel and fit and finish of a luxury car- it is the complete package, which the price point competitors can't natch, nor understand...

 

[stevegmu]

I used to smoke cigarettes as well. But I don't think vaping should be looked at as something people do as a compromise because they love smoking and are addicted to a drug and don't have much will-power.

It is NOT a compromise for me. I love the flavor and I love the vapor. My vaping doesn't resemble cigarette smoking. I don't vape tobacco flavored liquids and my devices don't resemble cigarettes. But it feels great and it tastes great and it drives me to keep pursuing more, keep trying different coil builds, keep testing new liquids. It is not something that I think, "well... since I can't have the real thing, i will settle for this instead." I am not simulating smoking a cigarette, I am vaping. And I am driven to pursue the vapor, pursue the flavor. The Provari restricts my pursuit. It is only a "compromise" device. And thats why I avoid it.

My ProVari set up produces more flavor than any cigarette, more vapor than a cigarette ever could smoke and much more throat hit than the strongest cigarette... Where is the compromise?

 

[Dampmaskin]

One thing is certain: The Provari has a kind of magnetic attraction unmatched by any other mod on the planet. For evidence, read this thread and the hundreds of other threads just like it. Then compare it to any thread about any other 15 or 20 W mod out there.

The difference is very obvious. Very few bother to write lengthy explanations and arguments about why the Semovar, the Vamo or the VaporsharkDNA20 doesn't have enough power for them, and how outdated these mods are. But the Provari? Everybody is talking about the Provari, always. I'm not 100% sure why that is, but it's kinda unique.

 

[BadTrainDriver]

First of all, I have not read this entire thread, and nor do I plan to.

I read a few pages here and there, mostly for laughs. The constant bickering back and forth is comical. 99.9% of the argumentative opinions here, either way, wouldn't be expressed if you were face to face with the person you were arguing with. You may THINK it...but you wouldn't say it...

Now, I own two Provaris, and nothing else. They work for ME. They may not work for YOU. Not once have I ever felt the need to "justify" why I use them. I also have never "thought less" of someone who uses a cheaper(price point) system. If you use an Ego battery and a mini protank, but you're not smoking, then that's fine. Not smoking is all that matters. The same came be said for someone who uses a multi thousand dollar setup. I'm not impressed. I could have one. I could have several. I don't have one because I have no use for one. You might...and good for you if you do.

In the end, who cares? Why are we arguing? If you're here(or out at the local vape shop) to impress people, good for you. Impress away. If you think I'm stuck up because of my Provari, then I honestly feel sorry for you. I'm seriously not trying to impress you with my most awesome Provari/KFL setup, vaping Castle Long Reserve. It's what I like, it works for me, it may not work for you, and the only person I'm trying to impress is my wife and son...by not smoking, by not stinking, and by saving money compared to my previously filthy habit.

/Please continue your argument now.

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm kind of new to the ProVari, so I'm still learning. Anybody got a link to the shrine?

Marvelous!!!!

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[DPLongo22]

Perfect question and the answer is no they can't.

But I can!!!

1. It looks like a
2. It's not a box
3. It's overpriced, because I can get {NUMBER} of {MOD}s for the same price!
4. Oooooooooooold technology. Can you say, "rotary phone"?
5. NO DOWNLOADABLE FIRMWARE!

Shall I continue? ;-)

Yep. We've heard them all. Impact, zero. Don't like it? DON'T BUY IT!!!

 

[imsoenthused]

This is exactly the type of condescending post that I find objectionable! I treat my Provari the same as I treat any other PV! (and I have lots of other PVs) Some of which cost a hell of a lot more than the Provari!

add:
I won't be buying a P3 for the exact same reason that I won't be buying a DNA40, or a Hana, or a ........ I don't need it!




and you wonder why Provari owners get their panties in a wad

Ah, you don't do any of that stuff I mentioned. I wasn't trying to imply that you or most ProVari owners do. I myself happen to be a satisfied ProVari owner. ProVari owners and fans are mostly just fine, but there is a minority subset of those fans that are just obnoxious. The ones who attack anyone who says anything the least bit critical of a ProVari and turn all these threads ugly. They remind me of some of the toxic Harley Davidson fans I know. If you felt it was directed at you it wasn't, but I apologize if it offended.

 

[DPLongo22]

One thing is certain: The Provari has a kind of magnetic attraction unmatched by any other mod on the planet. For evidence, read this thread and the hundreds of other threads just like it. Then compare it to any thread about any other 15 or 20 W mod out there.

The difference is very obvious. Very few bother to write lengthy explanations and arguments about why the Semovar, the Vamo or the VaporsharkDNA20 doesn't have enough power for them, and how outdated these mods are. But the Provari? Everybody is talking about the Provari, always. I'm not 100% sure why that is, but it's kinda unique.

Phenomenal point. And thought provoking too. Nicely done, D.

Work - bye!