Why is e-liquid selling at such high prices ?

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Tangaroav

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I think it does fit quite nicely. You are asking why someone charges a high price for something you could make on your own much cheaper. Right? Or did I misread your OP? Be it e-juice, bikes, furniture, clothing, hot rods, etc etc etc., you will always pay an inflated price for it being made by someone else. A DIY approach to many things exists. Some don't have the know-how, the ability, time, desire, or whatever and are willing to pay the extra. That is perfectly fine. If you have the ability to DIY your juice and save a bunch of money, great! But don't bash the producers of quality juice for making money. They don't do it for free.

Are you actually saying you could by DIY reproduce the BMW RC1200 for less than BMW?

Pls, remember we are NOT talking about simply mixing a few liquids here and asking to make a 800% profit. If BMW, Harley...etc would do this, it would cost us well over 100,000 $ for such bikes. They would not sell any and would go bankrupt fast.

...and by the way I am NOT against making 800% gross profit. I am simply against paying for such an item if I can by DIY, very easily btw, do it at 10% or less than their asking price. Hence you don't need to justify those profits or yourself.

I do not resent the sellers and buyers of such goods in any way .
 
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Are you actually saying you could by DIY reproduce the BMW RC1200 for less than BMW?

Thank you for that. That is my exact point. I can make a 2-wheeled motorized vehicle (and yes, I have built several custom bikes from the frame up) for lots less than a BMW RC1200 costs. Will it be exactly the same? Not hardly. You (we) pay for quality motorcycles because the company has certain aspects that we can't reproduce on our own. Just like in juice, I have a "Mothers Milk clone" recipe that I think is very good, but I still buy a bottle of Mothers Milk for myself because it is better than what I make and I enjoy it.
 

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Whenever I see a thread like this it's a train wreck, it's bad scrounged episode, even by springer standards. And I get sucked in and represent the idol racy I keep within.
It's the same as the dumb clone argument. Some idiot yells it needs to stop being sold or the price is to high and some other idiot yells that everything is fine they would pay twice as much. And in the end both idiots are both right and wrong. If the market and customer base weren't there then it wouldn't be.
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Whenever I see a thread like this it's a train wreck, it's bad scrounged episode, even by springer standards. And I get sucked in and represent the idol racy I keep within.
It's the same as the dumb clone argument. Some idiot yells it needs to stop being sold or the price is to high and some other idiot yells that everything is fine they would pay twice as much. And in the end both idiots are both right and wrong. If the market and customer base weren't there then it wouldn't be.
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This is an great exemple of a constructive, highly intelligent comment. And to think that you may have posted 3700 more of them in a little over 3 months is frightening.
 

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This is an great exemple of a constructive, highly intelligent comment. And to think that you may have posted 3700 more of them in a little over 3 months is frightening.

You're right we can't all be as perfect or smart as you.
I bow before thee or righteous and great one.
I await thee to dictate how the free market economy will work and bring happiness to all across the land with the magical fairies and unicorns.
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In the end you're totally right the more complaining you do the lower prices will get.

Basic economic principals don't exist in the vapong world.


Sweet baby Jesus please help your children.
 
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This is an great exemple of a constructive, highly intelligent comment. And to think that you may have posted 3700 more of them in a little over 3 months is frightening.

I must say, I have seen some of the threads you have posted, and some tend to be posted just to stir up a debate. Yet you want to belittle the comments made within. Maybe it's just me.....
 

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I must say, I have seen some of the threads you have posted, and some tend to be posted just to stir up a debate. Yet you want to belittle the comments made within. Maybe it's just me.....

You can't help stupid, bro.
I've tried on several threads to interject a tad but of logic; and each time some troll shows up and stirs the pot; catering to the helpless ignorant masses and so I'll say something dumb just for fun.
The sad part is some people vote and of the Feds get involved and we lose the free market regulating prices on this stuff, we'll all be paying more. Look at healthcare.
Oh wait that was another nonsensical comment.
Come on troll solve the worlds problems by talking and screaming at your keyboard, that's helpful.
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I must say, I have seen some of the threads you have posted, and some tend to be posted just to stir up a debate. Yet you want to belittle the comments made within. Maybe it's just me.....


The comment you quoted above refers to the comments of a troll that chimed in out of nowhere with insults to all who have been posting here. What is YOUR point in posting your comment ?
 

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You can't help stupid, bro.
I've tried on several threads to interject a tad but of logic; and each time some troll shows up and stirs the pot; catering to the helpless ignorant masses and so I'll say something dumb just for fun.
The sad part is some people vote and of the Feds get involved and we lose the free market regulating prices on this stuff, we'll all be paying more. Look at healthcare.
Oh wait that was another nonsensical comment.
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You are obviously the TROLL in the thread, since you have nothing but insults to contribute GO AWAY and raise your post count elsewhere.
 
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You are obviously the TROLL in the thread, GO AWAY

Wow it's really nice to see your eloquent well thought out response. I've seen 5 year olds communicate more eloquently. "No you are," "uh uhh," "my daddy can beat up your daddy."
Seriously?
Why is he concept of the free market economy so difficult to understand?
Where did the basic principal of supply and demand flyover so many peoples head?
I asked a question earlier and am STILL waiting an
answer.
What would you suggest to solve the problem that you perceive.
Being a troll and calling someone out is your best answer?
You wanna have a debate about the issue find let's have a debate.
You may want to educate yourself on basic economics first.

http://www.sophia.org/tutorials/economic-basics-supply-and-demand

I went ahead and found a source for you though that way you can't complain that no one did anything for you.

How can someone NOT want to support the people who make and create the products they enjoy?
Must be the same type of people they won't too there servers.

You're right I have a high post count
What does that matter? Heaven forbid I'm active supporting the suppliers of equipment I use.
Oh my god I'm horrible i pay for juice I like, I make my own and I use both clone and authentic gear. I'm what you would call an ashhole
 
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Wow it's really nice to see your eloquent well thought out response. I've seen 5 year olds communicate more eloquently. "No you are," "uh uhh," "my daddy can beat up your daddy."
Seriously?
Why is he concept of the free market economy so difficult to understand?
Where did the basic principal of supply and demand flyover so many peoples head?
I asked a question earlier and am STILL waiting an
answer.
What would you suggest to solve the problem that you perceive.
Being a troll and calling someone out is your best answer?
You wanna have a debate about the issue find let's have a debate.
You may want to educate yourself on basic economics first.

Economic Basics: Supply And Demand Tutorial | Sophia Learning

I went ahead and found a source for you though that way you can't complain that no one did anything for you.

How can someone NOT want to support the people who make and create the products they enjoy?
Must be the same type of people they won't too there servers.

You're right I have a high post count
What does that matter? Heaven forbid I'm active supporting the suppliers of equipment I use.
Oh my god I'm horrible i pay for juice I like, I make my own and I use both clone and authentic gear. I'm what you would call an ashhole

YOU are trolling this thread with your insults, calling everybody who posted here ''stupid'' You are the one attacking a person giving his/her opinion on a subject they find worthy of a conversation. YOU do you think you are ?

I think you are a TROLL that gets a kick out of insulting people while hidding behind a computer screen.

I say it again, GO raise your post count elsewhere TROLL and bring your lackey with you.
 

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YOU are trolling this thread with your insults, calling everybody who posted here ''stupid'' You are the one attacking a person giving his/her opinion on a subject they find worthy of a conversation. YOU do you think you are ?

I think you are a TROLL that gets a kick out of insulting people while hidding behind a computer screen.

I say it again, GO raise your post count elsewhere TROLL and bring your lackey with you.

So this means the questions which are the basis for the argument won't get answered by you?
Can anyone else please help me understand why they won't support the creators of the products they enjoy? Or why they think that $22/30ml of premium juice is expensive?
Or what they would do to remedy that?
Or perhaps what they think the government can do to remedy that?

@Tangaroav
If you look back in the thread you'll see I posted some rather kids responses and it want until I made a comment about he cyclcal argument (the part you started) that I got a little bit in the upset side. The fact that I am explaining that to you shows your laziness and lack of ability to have a conversation that requires use of more than half a brain cell.

I'm still curious about the questions I've posed though, from anyone with the ability to form a complete thought; and, can actually answer the question without consistently repeating the same thing.
 

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That's what I though. GO AWAY TROLL !



Didn't want you to think I actually went away. I had a client walk in the office so I couldn't reply right away.

I'm not sure where I am "trolling" as you would say. I am pretty active in the forums, and ask for advice, and offer advice. What I said before holds true. You tend to post threads that stir up debate, and then bash anyone who has thoughts other than yours, even when backed up by facts. That's not trolling, that's called "calling a spade a spade."
 

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Still trying to figure out where "post count matters"
I'm isially in the new members section paying forward the advice i got that helped me quit and stilling people from telling new vapors to wrap .0001 ohm triceps a nano coil on 30A battery; or telling them to go buy a Provari or dna30 device.
I try to help people on here and when I see somebody mumbling nonsense and stirring a pot I lose my cool.
There's no reason for any of that foolishness on here. We are all here to help each other but some people seam to think that means running around like a nutcase stirring pits of gumbo and makinf statements without answers.
 

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The fact that I am explaining that to you shows your laziness and lack of ability to have a conversation that requires use of more than half a brain cell.

I'm still curious about the questions I've posed though, from anyone with the ability to form a complete thought; and, can actually answer the question without consistently repeating the same thing.

Do you really believe this is an effective manner of representing your point of view ?
 
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