Why is New BB Dropping 6v?

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Quick1

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No. RCR123A won't fit in the BB. You need protected CR2s.

These ones (upper left corner. I'm almost positive I got mine here):

Li-Ion Batteries

or these ones? (don't know why they're blue but they appear to be exactly the same):

Ultrafire CR2 Protected 3.0v 1000mAh Battery

or these ones? (mine are completely unbranded except for the strip of printing on them that says "LC 15266 1000mAh 3.0v". I know they're protected because a Joye 510 trips the circuit and they also disconnect around 2.3v? somewhere down there). My charger looks just like this one except the printing is in English and says "SINCE" and below that says "CR2-3V".

Amazon.com: CR2 3V Rechargeable Battery+Quick Charger (Two 800mAh…
 

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okay I think this is the kind of thing i was referring to: Tenergy RCR123A 3.0V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery

It mentions:
Internal voltage regulators. Initial cell voltage of 3.6V switches to 3-3.2V within 12ms.
Full PCB protection against: Over-Discharge, Over-Charge, Short Circuit & Over-Current along with voltage regulation.


And:
We typically do NOT recommend these for any bulb flashlights - you use them at your own risk in these types of devices despite the voltage regulation at it takes the voltage regulation ~12 milliseconds to activate.

So.. I guess for at least some of the 3v Lithium batteries, voltage regulators are used in the pcb ? That just leaves me confused as to how others appear to possibly be managing a 3v (or 3.2v) output without a regulator....
 
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LOL, sorry to make your head spin. I belive what the flashligh folks are talking about the driver cicuit in there LED flashlight. Did I mention I am a flashlight freak? If there was a clamp in the Li-ion batts how could I test an atty under load at 3.95v when the working voltage is 3.7v?:p

Well from what I know, normal Li-Ion batteries are nominal 3.7, with a peak usually of 4.2. Li-Ion batteries don't tend to suffer as much of a voltage drop under load as non-lithium batteries, so 3.95v sounds perfectly reasonable to me under load of an atomizer. In fact they tend to hold their voltage high for quite a long while before the curve begins to drop significantly (and then the voltage curve plummets). In fact, in my personal experience, by the time you even get down to 3.7v (resting) you have already used more than half the capacity from a full charge.
My confusion I think is more with the "3 volt" Lithium batteries - as far as I know, a single cell is typically nominal 3.7v, with a typical working range of 4.2 down to 3v. (You can go lower, but you shorten the battery life in doing that..in fact some people who use separate circuits for cutoffs are using 3.2v as the main cutoff now i think.) Anyway, so I understand how a nominal 3.7v cell can be reduced to 3.0v with a regulator.. the part that has me baffled is how one would do that without one.

I'm mostly going by personal experience here with Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries.. but I have not until the past 6 months used any "3v" lithium batteries (or had even heard of them). So, how would one make a "3v" lithium battery that does not use a voltage regulator to do so?
 

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I don't know how a voltage regulator works or does it's job. I'm assuming it's going to use something like a capacitor and switch power on and off to the capacitor? So the output would be taken off the capacitor. You would use the battery to charge the capacitor. By monitoring the output of the capacitor you could switch the battery power to charge it on and off and you would get an average voltage output that could be lower than that of the battery (or higher?).
 
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