Why is there so many anti vaping articles?

[Vermonster13]

The tobacco fight is pretty much settled. They needed a new dragon to hunt to keep the donations coming in and to justify their salaries. Fighting smoking, drinking, vaping etc is big money too. Also the articles get published because it is something new to many and they get read, so stories get sold. $$$ is all anything is in the world and the power it brings.

 

[AgentAnia]

While it is natural to assume there is some sort of vast conspiracy, it's probably not that. I used to work in the media. The one thing you need to do is report on controversial and alarmist things…that's what gets people reading and talking. For the moment, vaping fits that bill just fine. It's a way to stir people up and get attention. And attention is all you have to sell. That is not to say the they are not being tipped off by big tobacco, big pharma and the American Cancer Society. But they are probably not being directly paid…it's just stirring things up that gets their motor running.

How many media outlets are supported by advertising, and how much of that advertising comes from the pharmaceutical industry?

 

[AgentAnia]

Lol- until they figure out a way to tax glycerine and vegetable oil.

Please tell me you're not vaping vegetable oil. If you are, STOP immediately! If you meant propylene glycol, carry on (but pls correct your terminology)...

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Please tell me you're not vaping vegetable oil. If you are, STOP immediately! If you meant propylene glycol, carry on (but pls correct your terminology)...

I was actual referring to Vegetable glycerin or VG
But I'll correct it
Thank you


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[-mj01-]

How many media outlets are supported by advertising, and how much of that advertising comes from the pharmaceutical industry?

And by practice, businesses out to make money generally do not wish to irritate the advertisers.

 

[Vermonster13]

The media has an agenda!?! Say it ain't so!

 

[Moedog]

You've got to understand that the introduction/rapid growth of vaping has been a huge, unexpected game changer for the tobacco prohibition industry, especially for all the state-based "wellness," "clean air," and "health" commissions which are extremely well funded by the tobacco settlement (ie, when you smoked, you were paying for this). Indeed, these are career activists and lobbyists who have worked for years currying a close and cordial relationship with the media and legislatures. They've had years of experience encouraging the placement of sensationalistic news pieces, passing overreaching laws, and generally demonizing smokers. The development of an alternative turns out to be a real threat to this industry--they are not going to give up without a huge fight.

 

[patkin]

^ Absolutely! Well said. And they MUST have someone TO fight. That means us. Everyone needs to get active against them because not only is their vaping enjoyment being threatened but their health if they continue smoking and that of their loved ones.

 

[ScottP]

While it is natural to assume there is some sort of vast conspiracy, it's probably not that. I used to work in the media. The one thing you need to do is report on controversial and alarmist things…that's what gets people reading and talking. For the moment, vaping fits that bill just fine. It's a way to stir people up and get attention. And attention is all you have to sell. That is not to say the they are not being tipped off by big tobacco, big pharma and the American Cancer Society. But they are probably not being directly paid…it's just stirring things up that gets their motor running.

So what you are saying is that the media is willing to lie to people just to stir them up for ratings? Of course those ratings translates to money.

I find this hard to believe. If stirring people up to get them talking was the primary objective as you say, them what the media said would be more balanced. They would put out both sides to a story to provide argumentative evidence to both sides. Instead in nearly every story, regardless of the topic, the media outlets all choose the same side. Then they support that side vehemently while demonizing the opposing side. They label anyone with an opposing viewpoint with derogatory words. That doesn't sound like starting a conversation, it sounds like social engineering.

 

[LDS714]

So what you are saying is that the media is willing to lie to people just to stir them up for ratings? Of course those ratings translates to money.

I find this hard to believe.

It happens every day. I challenge you to find a half-hour news broadcast totally devoid of this foolishness.

Social engineering has been driving the tax structure and the reported news since, well, they've been around.

 

[DC2]

One way to help fight back.....http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/casaa/549126-casaa-website-has-poor-rating-web-trust-we-need-fix.html

Thanks for posting that! Took me all of 3 minutes.

 

[DC2]

Not just the media, either. Same "what else are they telling us" questioning applies to the medical and "public health" professions, and alleged not-for-profits such as ALA, ACS, etc. They are *all* doing irreparable damage to their credibility.

And as we have also seen, the FDA and the CDC are playing the same game.

 

[FireDragon1138]

Rewind that "whatever" to the Prohibition era to find the beginning of major movements that "know better than you do" and try to enforce those public policies through legislation. Part of all that "know better than you do" is the patriarchal B.S. that you are too stupid to know any better. They know better what is right and wrong for the stupids of the world.

There's an undercurrent of paternalism in the ANTZ mythology of the world. A huge lack of respect for individual autonomy.

Needless to say, I think that isn't a problem just for vapers- there's a whole class of people that like directing the lives of others, "for their own good".

 

[db003]

they just want are more money

 

[db003]

that's all there is to it more money

 

[catlady60]

Most are paid for by big tobacco and the government losing tax money.

Not to mention BP. We've been cutting into their profit margins by vaping instead of taking Chantix or using patches or chewing that gum that tastes more like burning rubber than the flavors they put it.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Not to mention BP. We've been cutting into their profit margins by vaping instead of taking Chantix or using patches or chewing that gum that tastes more like burning rubber than the flavors they put it.

I tried the gum- till it made my gums and throat blead.
Tried the patches too-till it put a chemical burn on my arm, left a nice scar to add to my collection.


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[FatCatNat]

Propaganda, maybe?

 

[Fir3b1rd]

When I think of this issue with the government and trying to "regulate" vaping; yet, save smoking it makes me think of the smartest man in our nations history (USA)
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.

-Thomas Jefferson



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[Steamix]

Time to knock the pink glasses off yer nose :

Gubmint doesn't give an airborne intercourse about your health - pay taxes , pay social and health insurance , pay tobacco taxes, and puleeze , do us the favour and croak exactly one day before your first pension cheque is due. And stop vaping, bugmint didn't have that in their statistics. So if you happen to have the impertinence of extending your statisitically forecast life epxectancy by wanton acts of individual reasoning , thinking and sensible behaviour, you force us to quench this rebellious bahaviour. As we aren't on par with North Korea ( yet) , we have to be nice about it and can't just toss you in some labour camp. Time to get rid of that 'vote for ....' ritual anyway.... But as long as we have to bother with it, we have to play the mushroom game with you : keep you in the dark and feed you with horses-manure... we'd really love to switch off the internet on you, but we're just building this place in Utah, were 5000 nerds are going to hand-screen Chinese porn sites for hidden codes in all these pixels ...good thing the computer mouse needs only one hand to operate...

BP doesn't give a rodent's behind about your health either. Hale and hardy folk don't buy no medicines. Thank goodness BF is helping out with all sorts of funny additives, BA is laboring hard to make sure that no living plant dares to grow without adding to their balance sheet.
Read the small print on any food package lately ? So you get sick, and they will of course cure you...well, a little...just so that you need to buy these pills again. And again. Mammon forbid they come u with a single use cure like vaping again. All these fine side effects of all thse multi-coloured pills. Just now as we were develpoing a pill to cure the side effects of taking another pill, and the side effects of the side effects of the second pill meant to cure the side effects of ...you still with me ?... No ? You don't have to. You're vaping now...

And the side effects are most detrimental to our sttistis and to our bonus programs .... pop, there go the golden faucets for the Learjet...

You're a vaper now - and we hate you for it .... cuz to get rid of you we'd have to drop that charade... and show our true greedy faces...