why is vaping not promoted more?

[paulw2014]

I never thought I can quit smoking. I tried an early e cig kit a few years ago and was disappointed. I've been smoking for 3 years now and always felt guilty. For the last tewo years I've been a PAD smoker. I really enjoyed smoking but the fear of lung cancer always made me want to quit. I tried adding tar filters to my cigs and it was nasty watching how much tar was going into my lungs. But even with the tar filter, if I exhale the smoke through a paper towel, the paper towel would turn yellow.

I made an determination to quit cold turkey. But after 8 hours of no smoking, I had to buy Nicorette to curb the intense cravings. The Nicorette temporarily helped. But after two days, I was actually depressed because it seemed something was missing in my life. The feel of something in my hand, the puff, the throat hit, and the overall relaxation of the whole smoking ritual. I ended up smoking again by buying another pack of cigs. Then I wonder if I can truly quit. I have friends who are smokers and I come from a culture where it is considered rude to NOT hand out a cig to someone next to you if you are smoking. I was at a dilemma: either live miserably for the foreseeable future or risk lung cancer. That's when I decided to give e cigs another try and thankfully I found this forum.

I can say that after two days, my Ego Twist and Vivi Nova has freed me from cigs like nothing can. The Nicorette that I blew $50 on was complete junk. With the E-cig, I have zero desire for a cigarette, even in situations that "call for" a cigarette. I'm happy that I can still enjoy the whole tactile sensation of smoking, without the health destruction. So I started wondering, why isn't this thing promoted more? I keep on reading articles that deem e cigs as "not safe", or "too much unknowns". We are even told to try the "proven" methods of "smoking cessation".

Well, I think many "experts" are ignorant when it comes to this. How many of them are even smokers themselves? Do they know how hard it is to kick the habit or the pain we have to go through? Do they realize that perhaps some of us don't want to quit, but merely want a better alternative? As for the nicotine patches or gums, they worthless as far as I'm concerned. So for most smokers, the choice is simple: either keep smoking or vape. I am not an expert but I would think PG and VG are a lot better than tar, cadmium, CO, formaldehyde and the other chemicals in cigs. I'm willing to take whatever "risk" that PG and VG might have, thank you. And no, I'm not going to wait years until the "experts" tell us that e-cigs are safer to stop smoking. I've made my choice and it's NOW.

If the experts are really concerned, then they should quickly start researching the e-cigs, and if found to be safer (as it should), start promoting it more.

 

[ThunderFli]

I think it's getting there but it's a slow process.

Now that I have my tinfoil hat on, I think big tobacco is a major force behind the slow adoption of e-cigs. Of course, I recently saw a a major manufacturer of analogs (make Parliment?) is getting into e-cigs as a product line. Pretty smart if you ask me.

 

[Fiamma]

The huge foe of e cigs are the alphabet soup ngo's all funded by big pharmaceutical companies to bad mouth e cigs. Vapers cut into their profits from their ineffective NRT's. The ANTZ are totally funded by big pharma and now there is evidence that the CDC has been also funding some ANTZ groups with taxpayer money to illegally lobby cities, counties and states to ban e cig use. Bill Godshall has posted some of the information in Legislative news and every member of ECF should be reading those parts of the forum.

There are a very well funded and determined bunch of groups out there tellling people that e cigs are not 'safe'. They go as far as making up lies out of whole cloth to get their twisted views across. If it looks anything at all like smoking its BAD as far as they are concerned. These are the people who know better than you (they think) how to live your life, and they are funded by the groups who stands to lose the most money if we vape, pharmaceutical companies and your local cigarette tax collectors.

 

[Lbox88]

I wish it was more, I'm just really getting into it and trying to quit analogs and think I'm really starting to make progress this time. Finally got one of my friends into it too.

 

[Bronze]

I'm sure it's a combination of a number of factors. Some have already been listed. Let's also not underestimate the impact of the federal government. They made it hard to import from the get go and when they start seeing their tobacco tax revenues slipping, they'll be back on our doorsteps looking to get their cut (in addition to regulating it).

 

[oxygen thief]

This is long and random

Most of us vape nicotine and some go back to smoking or smoke some along with vaping. For many it's a precarious perch. In the years to come, if long term studies bear out what we all realize then the tide could turn. But you'll never have organizations promoting an addictive habit for any reason. I think if family docs start seeing great results in patients that used to smoke then we'll get somewhere at a grass roots level.

Big Pharma has over 1500 lobbyists mostly in Washington. Big Tobacco, who knows. CASAA is a gnat on a cows .... compared to these guys.

The powers that be have kept an illegal substance with legitimate uses down since the '30's or so. Some things may change and it will probably for the worst. We have anecdotal evidence here that vaping is a good thing but science doesn't work with anything but scientific testing. I for one have no idea how flavoring and such are affecting me. I feel better, I think it's a good thing. Can I prove that? Nope.

I take a lot of meds and have read reports on pubmed and other sites for years. Nothing is completely benign although whatever they may find may be pretty close. I guarantee you ecigs are safer than the drug listed below and the drug sells like hotcakes.

In a few years big t will have tons of ecigs on the market and they will paint us as using dangerous products, etc.

But I gotta say that I've taken and still take heavy duty drugs for bipolar. A doctor hands you a script and says something like, you may have some nausea at first. I immediately start my reasearch on the drug and doc left out a hundred or so things that could go wrong including death. There's no way in hell that anything in an ecig can come close to 99% of meds even OTC side effects while at the same time ecigs showing more success. I may be off topic but I doubt that ecigs will ever be as harmful as the following super dangerous drug. It's called Ibuprofen.

All medicines can cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most common side effects persist or become bothersome when using Ibuprofen.
note: Did you know that antibiotics can cause a disorder call Stevens-Johnson syndrome. If you have a strong stomach look it up or do an image search. Your skin turn black and kind of burns off.
Ibuprofen---
Constipation; ........; dizziness; gas; headache; heartburn; nausea; stomach pain or upset.
Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Ibuprofen:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; trouble breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); bloody or black, tarry stools; change in the amount of urine produced; chest pain; confusion; dark urine; depression; fainting; fast or irregular heartbeat; fever, chills, or persistent sore throat; mental or mood changes; numbness of an arm or leg; one-sided weakness; red, swollen, blistered, or peeling skin; ringing in the ears; seizures; severe headache or dizziness; severe or persistent stomach pain or nausea; severe vomiting; shortness of breath; stiff neck; sudden or unexplained weight gain; swelling of hands, legs, or feet; unusual bruising or bleeding; unusual joint or muscle pain; unusual tiredness or weakness; vision or speech changes; vomit that looks like coffee grounds; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

This is not a complete list of all side effects that may occur. If you have questions about side effects, contact your health care provider. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088. You may also report side effects at MedWatch: The FDA Safety Information and Adverse Event Reporting Program .

If that is approved for aches and pains, ecigs should be safe for any respiratory illness which is a bigger contribution.

Sorry this is so long and scattered.

 

[young gotti]

iin order for vaping to be promoted, the right ppl's pockets have to get filled from it

 

[iKenpachi]

Its all about money because as tobacco sales decrease some "Very important people" *note the sarcasm* lose money.

 

[Buggs5347]

Because of the stigma of addiction and the general view of the public as a wasteful, unproductive habit, it's pretty tough to market. Right now it's illegal to market them as smoking cessation devices, so what's left to promote, at this point. "You can smoke them anywhere" - just gets the anti's miffed.

 

[denali_41]

until the media decides it is worth promoting,it will never be as main stream as stinkys are

 

[s0undwave]

Apart from tobacco taxes, we can't deny the possibility that more people will then take up vaping, if this is actively promoted. The rationale of vaping to quit smoking will truly be heavily challenged

 

[DC2]

I'm sure it's a combination of a number of factors. Some have already been listed. Let's also not underestimate the impact of the federal government. They made it hard to import from the get go and when they start seeing their tobacco tax revenues slipping, they'll be back on our doorsteps looking to get their cut (in addition to regulating it).

The FDA started to seize electronic cigarette shipments at the urging of the "non-profit" "health" organizations.

So it was the folks like the ALA, AHA, and ACS who prompted the FDA to get involved.
This is well-documented.

And those organizations are heavily funded by Big Pharma.
This is also well-documented.

Fiamma is 100% correct that our biggest enemy is Big Pharma and their minions.
They have been from the start, and they will be until the bitter end.

I'm sure as the government loses more and more and more cigarette tax money, they will get more serious as well.
But right now, they are too busy to worry about us just yet.

 

[Madridbrent]

I didnt really read the desc. But imo a lot of people in this society look down on vaping because it still involves smoke so in their mind set its automatically bad, ignorant people

 

[ImThatGuy]

Here ya go...

http://cnettv.cnet.com/high-tech-smoking/9742-1_53-50126344.html

 

[Sha1khi1]

You want a polymer without plasticizer? Go fish. However, if you're a medical ......... user, your health is none to good to begin with, and sucking oxidized plant deep into your lungs is gonna trash 'em long before the plasticizers get you.

 

[norie09]

The tobacco company's are losing money. other u.s citizens are making there own mods and juice in America and all the politicians and business men want to make the money' ' I will always support vaping because it puts money in the everyday people in the U.S.A

 

[KuroCz]

Tobacco companies may loose money from people not smoking regular cigs, but stop and consider how much money the 'healthcare system' is going to loose by having poeple be healthier? Ever wonder why you're sick? Because they say you're sick, because if you're not sick, they're out of a job. The analogy of sauron's eye is more factual than most people seem to think, sadly. Find out how many umbrella companies there are, over everything. Then you'll get really sick ~_~;

Yah I have a tinfoil hat too, and I don't carry a personal tracker (cellphone) either. They still know everything I do before I do it though...

 

[StormFinch]

Let's be straight about this, Big Tobacco Doesn't Care.

Lorillard ( Newport, Kent, True, Old Gold, Maverick, Triumph, Satin, and Max) recently bought out Blu, and Reynolds (Camel, Pall Mall, Kool, Winston, Salem, Doral, Misty, Capri and American Spirit) is busy developing their own. For them, this is the new future. It's Big Pharma that has the most to lose and they're fighting tooth and nail to keep smokers on the NRT roller coaster. Why? A quit rate for NRTs approximately the same as cold turkey and some smokers who use their products long term. Let's face it, if even half the number of smokers quit via e-cigs then they stand to lose billions. Cigarette companies are trying to compete by adapting, pharmaceutical companies are trying to stamp out the competition.

Here's a great article that explains the whole tobacco control scam without even mentioning e-cigarettes; Pharma - TobaccoControl Tactics. Granted, this site is supported by smokers rights groups, but I've checked their facts and as far as I can tell, they're 100% on the money.

 

[Jiggawatt]

I agree whole heartedly. I feel some major tobacco manufactures sense a lost of revenue from Ecigs and view them as a threat. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Blu just get bought out by a major tobacco manufacture recently?

Jiggawatt...

 

[zuzette]

Oxygen thief - your post reminds me of "flonase" - marketed to combat the symptoms of "mild to moderate seasonal nasal allergies" - the side effects include (but are not limited to) flu, nose bleeds, sinus infection and death. thats a potentially high price to combat seasonal allergy symptoms.

makes me wonder how this stuff passes the fda....