Why should I be single?

[Smellybelly]

So I lurk on here more than I post and I like to read old post sometimes to see how it was done in the time before time... 3 or so years ago. However I've been reading alot in recent post and new posts that quite a number of people prefer single coil builds. When I first started vaping about 8 months ago I started on a cheap ego setup I got from a headshop. It worked better than the cigalikes but not much better. Then after that broke I got a kanger mini pro tank 3 with the bottom dual coil heads. So much better flavor and everything, so from that point on it had been ingrained into my head that dual coils were awesome and if you could do two coils why do only one.

But lately, because I've been reading people saying they like singles, I've decided to mess with single coil builds in my tanks and rda's. I have some opinions so far but I don't think I have enough experience yet as to make an actual preference. So in your guys opinion why do you or people you know prefer or sometimes prefer a single coil over a dual or whatever. Besides battery life of course.

 

[edyle]

So I lurk on here more than I post and I like to read old post sometimes to see how it was done in the time before time... 3 or so years ago. However I've been reading alot in recent post and new posts that quite a number of people prefer single coil builds. When I first started vaping about 8 months ago I started on a cheap ego setup I got from a headshop. It worked better than the cigalikes but not much better. Then after that broke I got a kanger mini pro tank 3 with the bottom dual coil heads. So much better flavor and everything, so from that point on it had been ingrained into my head that dual coils were awesome and if you could do two coils why do only one.

But lately, because I've been reading people saying they like singles, I've decided to mess with single coil builds in my tanks and rda's. I have some opinions so far but I don't think I have enough experience yet as to make an actual preference. So in your guys opinion why do you or people you know prefer or sometimes prefer a single coil over a dual or whatever. Besides battery life of course.

simplicity.

I have a few rda's set up with dual coil and the only reason why is they happen to be geometrically suited for dual and not single.
Having a simple single coil setup means you spend less time on the coil and see about other things.

 

[Smellybelly]

simplicity.

I have a few rda's set up with dual coil and the only reason why is they happen to be geometrically suited for dual and not single.
Having a simple single coil setup means you spend less time on the coil and see about other things.

There has to be more than just simplicity. It's not much harder to throw another coil on there takes about 3 minutes each coil from building to wicked and juiced.

 

[edyle]

There has to be more than just simplicity. It's not much harder to throw another coil on there takes about 3 minutes each coil from building to wicked and juiced.

1: not much harder to throw another coil on there????
You are talking about some particular rda;

It's real easy with a velocity rda - only 2 posts and each post has 2 holes and 2 screws.

It's not so easy with a 3post rda where the centerpost is shared, and worse yet if it doesn't have post holes.

after adding the second coil that's certainly not the end.

while using your setup, at some point you are likely to want to tighten screws; on many rdas, it's impossible to tighten up one coil without interfering with the other.


simplicity doesn't only refer to building, it's also an issue of maintaining and troubleshooting.

 

[zoiDman]

... So in your guys opinion why do you or people you know prefer or sometimes prefer a single coil over a dual or whatever. Besides battery life of course.

I just like the Taste of a Single Coil better.

 

[Smellybelly]

1: not much harder to throw another coil on there????
You are talking about some particular rda;

It's real easy with a velocity rda - only 2 posts and each post has 2 holes and 2 screws.

It's not so easy with a 3post rda where the centerpost is shared, and worse yet if it doesn't have post holes.

after adding the second coil that's certainly not the end.

while using your setup, at some point you are likely to want to tighten screws; on many rdas, it's impossible to tighten up one coil without interfering with the other.


simplicity doesn't only refer to building, it's also an issue of maintaining and troubleshooting.

Have a velocity, don't like it. I use three and four post rdas. It's really not as hard as your making it sound.
Pop coil in post holes adjust to desired leg length, tighten screws, pulse, pinch, pulse, scrape, wiggle what have you. Tighten screws then clip leads. Guess what you do for a dual coil.... you do it twice. Or both at the same time. And I am talking about all rebuildable in general excluding odd balls like the veritas and similar build decks.

@zoiDman what do you mean by taste. I removed one of my coils from my goblin mini and put the plug in there just to experiment and I also grabbed my snubnose rda and put a single twisted in there. Flavor wise. For the Goblin mini, it was about the same, maybe a little better but could be due to less airflow. Not quite sure yet. The snubnose was alright. I wasn't really a fan of the snubnose but the flavor was on the same level as dual coils. Maybe not as much vapor.

 

[zoiDman]

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@zoiDman what do you mean by taste. I removed one of my coils from my goblin mini and put the plug in there just to experiment and I also grabbed my snubnose rda and put a single twisted in there. Flavor wise. For the Goblin mini, it was about the same, maybe a little better but could be due to less airflow. Not quite sure yet. The snubnose was alright. I wasn't really a fan of the snubnose but the flavor was on the same level as dual coils. Maybe not as much vapor.

The Taste of a Hit has Many Components. And one of them is Coil Chamber Volume. I like the taste of a Single Coil that is inside the Smallest Possible Volume.

To Me, I like the Hit I get from a Goblin Mini in Single Coil Mode vs Dual Mode. But a Subtank Mini running the Same Build at the Same Watts tastes Better. And the Wine RTA that I cut down to use 30mm Glass Tastes even Better.

The Common theme on each is a Smaller and Smaller Volume that the Coil Sits in.

Of Course, Taste is Subjective. But to Me, Smaller is Better.

 

[edyle]

Have a velocity, don't like it. I use three and four post rdas. It's really not as hard as your making it sound.
Pop coil in post holes adjust to desired leg length, tighten screws, pulse, pinch, pulse, scrape, wiggle what have you. Tighten screws then clip leads. Guess what you do for a dual coil.... you do it twice. Or both at the same time. And I am talking about all rebuildable in general excluding odd balls like the veritas and similar build decks.

@zoiDman what do you mean by taste. I removed one of my coils from my goblin mini and put the plug in there just to experiment and I also grabbed my snubnose rda and put a single twisted in there. Flavor wise. For the Goblin mini, it was about the same, maybe a little better but could be due to less airflow. Not quite sure yet. The snubnose was alright. I wasn't really a fan of the snubnose but the flavor was on the same level as dual coils. Maybe not as much vapor.

I wasn't making it sound hard I was merely answering the question that you asked

So in your guys opinion why do you or people you know prefer or sometimes prefer a single coil over a dual or whatever.

One reason, and it applies to myself, that I use single coils is ..... simplicity.
Nothing to do with taste or anything like that.
Not that dual coil is hard, or much harder, or a little harder........ just simply unnecessary.

Another issue for me is I happen to prefer 1 airhole, and orient it upwards........... so I can tootle puff

 

[ShowerHead]

I like single coils as it is easier to build and wick.
I've found no difference in my vape (30-40 joules at 380-410 F) in flavor. I'm not a cloud chaser.
Since I do TC, getting the TC right is way easier when you only have one coil heating/cooling.

 

[ThaFuzz]

Ok, ill bite.... tc works better with single coils on most devices (koopor plus has a dual coil setting because it has to account for the difference ). Higher resistance single coils use less power and thus longer battery life(less wear and tear on batteries). They are easier, especially on shared centerpost rdas like the doge ,or freak show, or dark horse (even if its just a little bit,its still easier) price: 1 coil means less wick and wire cost (multiply over time=$)

 

[93gc40]

Me, I can't understand why people using regulated gear especially high power stuff.. Like over 30 watts. Are still doing multi coils and sub ohm. After-all the only reason that was done in the first place, was that, was how you got to higher wattage on non-boosted and non-regulated battery voltage..

 

[Vaslovik]

Just my .02, but I tried dual coiling my Krakens, and it was more hassle than it turned out to be worth to build. Two coils took longer to ramp up and they drained batteries faster, and in a genny they didn't vape as well as a single coil.

 

[Izan]

Speed and simplicity.

 

[distortoblotto]

IMHO, Power and battery life be damned. For me it all comes down to the particular atty and liquid. Always build to the sweet spot that works best for you be it a simple 1 ohm single or a multi coiled sub ohm monster. The beauty of vaping is that there's something for everyone.

 

[stylemessiah]

Almost no one i know, including the guys at my b&m use dual coils. Why go through extra work to get a marginal (or to me personally unwanted) increase in vapor if youre not looking to chuck obnoxious clouds. Even the cloud friendlier staffers at my b&m find they get enough vapor from a single coil. They cant be arsed building, let alone dual coil setups.

For me personally i like my simple single 0.6ohm 7/8 wrap on 3mm 316l ss coil, at 190c with unflavoured juice its a comfortable temperature to vape and enough vapor to stop me from reverting to smokes. Job done.

If youre really looking for potentially stupid ramp up times, uneven coil heating, hotspots etc, then by all means, add spice to your life with dual coil builds. Trie dit twice early on and it really didnt float my boat....drained my mods battery quicker than anything ive ever put on there, and the extra hassle didnt equal a greater vaping experience...the juice didnt taste any better, i got more (hotter) vapor, which isnt what i was looking for.

Rebuilding for me on my Lemo 2 has gotten as simple as this now that i use tc:

Wrap coil
Fit Coil
Wick coil
Fill tank
Vape on

I dont even dry fire the coil before wicking to check its even any more, havent done in over 3 months

 

[Darkshot]

When building advanced coils framed staple, cat track, alien, braided, etc buildin some of the wires can take up to an hour so less wire use means less time making more and with my frankenfused clapton 4*.5x.1 ribbon twisted and flattened fused with 24g n80 wrappe in 34g 6 wrap on 3mm coming in at .3 my mod can't fire duals without pulsing on a mech first and juice usage battery and e-liquid varieties is significantly less. And i've tried standard, tricro, diamond, clapton, spaced all in dual and the can't touch my frankenfused clapton for flavour. And yes only one hole to leak from.

 

[bigpoppa01]

So I lurk on here more than I post and I like to read old post sometimes to see how it was done in the time before time... 3 or so years ago. However I've been reading alot in recent post and new posts that quite a number of people prefer single coil builds. When I first started vaping about 8 months ago I started on a cheap ego setup I got from a headshop. It worked better than the cigalikes but not much better. Then after that broke I got a kanger mini pro tank 3 with the bottom dual coil heads. So much better flavor and everything, so from that point on it had been ingrained into my head that dual coils were awesome and if you could do two coils why do only one.

But lately, because I've been reading people saying they like singles, I've decided to mess with single coil builds in my tanks and rda's. I have some opinions so far but I don't think I have enough experience yet as to make an actual preference. So in your guys opinion why do you or people you know prefer or sometimes prefer a single coil over a dual or whatever. Besides battery life of course.

 

[bigpoppa01]

I've done single, dual and most recently clapton occassionally. Prefere single builds for simplicity and power usage, but the others do have some advantages as well.

 

[DaveP]

Single coils are just easier. I re-wick every day or two to keep it fresh. A single coil with one wick is quick and easy to re-wick.

Back when the Nautilus came out the flavor was noticeably better with dual coils, but they had a blanket around the outside with wicks extending from the blanket through the coils in the head.

My Kayfun 3.1 is single coil. The K4 is set up for duals, but I single coil it for the same reason above.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

@zoiDman what do you mean by taste. I removed one of my coils from my goblin mini and put the plug in there just to experiment and I also grabbed my snubnose rda and put a single twisted in there. Flavor wise. For the Goblin mini, it was about the same, maybe a little better but could be due to less airflow. Not quite sure yet. The snubnose was alright. I wasn't really a fan of the snubnose but the flavor was on the same level as dual coils. Maybe not as much vapor.

Seems like you answered your own question. The difference was that they were about the same, and that maybe the single might be a little better.

I believe their are many people who don't post often because it is not as important to their vaping. They are happy just getting their Nic needs and are happy with single coils. This forum, by its very nature, has a much higher percentage of hobbyists who chatter away about the latest and greatest. They will even bring up the question of whether one coil is as good as two.

But. for many, and I think the majority, single coils or factory-made coils are easier and simpler to do and they are satisfied with their vape. I don't mind making single coils, even the occasional dual, but I do have other things that I want to do.

Many people read here to learn...when they feel they need to, but they don't want to make it a daily routine that lasts for several hours. All of them are out doing something better like riding into the wind at a lot of mph.