Why "steeping"

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trojanOZ

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I appreciate that e-liquid needs to age in order for the full flavour to develop but why is it called "steeping"? No solid is soaked to extract flavour from it as the dictionary says. Why is it so hard for vendors to age their wares appropriately before sale? The whole concept seems bit willfully ignorant and somewhat dishonest to me, especially when some vendors tout their non-aged liquid as "fresh".
 

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Probably called steeping based on the superficial resemblance to something like tea steeping. The act of basically just sitting there aging. Much like me. lol. And the rest is just marketing. If you're marketing yours as aged or steeped, then someone else is going to go the opposite and call theirs fresh. Unfortunately, there isn't very much honesty in marketing.
 

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I appreciate that e-liquid needs to age in order for the full flavour to develop but why is it called "steeping"? No solid is soaked to extract flavour from it as the dictionary says. Why is it so hard for vendors to age their wares appropriately before sale? The whole concept seems bit willfully ignorant and somewhat dishonest to me, especially when some vendors tout their non-aged liquid as "fresh".
In regards to vendors aging the juice appropriately before sale, some do....many don't. A big part of the reason for not mixing or aging the juice in advance is that many vendors offer options for not only nic level, but pg/vg ratios as well.

Imagine a vendor with a line of say, 20 flavors, and them having to keep a stock of each flavor in all the various nic and pg/vg combinations.....for most juice vendors, it just wouldn't be reasonable.

From what I have seen, many of the vendors who do mix and age their juice in advance, such as Nicoticket, only offer options on nic level, but not pg/vg ratios.
 

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Because "aging" sounds positively geriatric.

If you want custom options you are gonna get freshly made liquids. It quickly becomes mathematically and logistically impossible for a supplier to maintain a pre-prepared stock of every flavor in every nic level in every PG/VG ratio in every size - that everyone wants. And then keep track of how long it's been sitting there. Next thing you will be complaining about liquids that have been aged too long on an inventory shelf, or the associated markup for having to maintain a massive inventory and regularly destroy any unsold inventory.

If you don't want custom made liquids then buy Dekang.
 

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I agree with the OP .... steeping is such the wrong word to use... unless you are actually soaking tobacco in your juice and plan to filter it out before you vape it....
probably got started when in the beginning when people actually made their own juice with tobacco to get the nic from it...who knows...

just goes to show how many people dont understand the true meaning of the word steep... :)
 

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I really do not think it is marketing ploys to sell you non aged/steeped/whatever you want to call it e-liquids. They are going to make a product that is fresh to you then, you have the option to let it "steep" to bring the flavors to your liking. Some people vape the e-liquids straight out the bottle other like it to mellow out and enhance their flavors. A fine example is "Country Classic" by MOV, the stuff fresh from the bottle is okay but a tiny bit perfumey. I let it air out and the perfume goes away and the flavor is brought to my liking. It is all about your individual tastes.
 

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I agree with the OP .... steeping is such the wrong word to use... unless you are actually soaking tobacco in your juice and plan to filter it out before you vape it....
probably got started when in the beginning when people actually made their own juice with tobacco to get the nic from it...who knows...

just goes to show how many people dont understand the true meaning of the word steep... :)

I vape NET Ejuice which is made by soaking tobacco in ejuice or other solvent....... OH and some NATURAL flavorings are made in simular fashions. Vanilla is from a BEAN.
I also don't really like the STEEP term I too prefer aging or even fermentation as a better term. Because the process is more simular to aging tobacco or spirits, than steeping tea.
 

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Ahh so it is willful ignorance and dishonesty erm I mean "marketing"

AFAIK, it didn't come from a manufacturer, it came from the vape community. We figured out that juice frequently changes flavor over time and that was sometimes a good thing. People then started aging their juice themselves and called it steeping.

Sometimes there is no conspiracy :matrix:

What's the shelf life of a juice kept in appropriate conditions?
I've got some "pre-steeped" that came to me 4 months old and I've had it 10 weeks and it's still yummy.

Best before dates when used are I believe typically one year from date of manufacture, however that is conservative. As long as the flavorings are synthetic you should be good for at least two years and I wouldn't hesitate to try it at three years and see how it goes if I were inclined to. People have reported three year old stock as being very well steeped and quite tasty :)

Oh and who's Dekang when he's had his nappy changed?

They are, well, Dekang. When I was buying premixed juice, I tried it and found it as good as any other. My home brew juice is better, but then I'll bet everyone says that :p
 
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I think everyone else already covered it but I think part of the reason that you don't see a lot of vendors selling "steeped" (aged, fermented, geriatric, over the hill, *ahem*) juice is simply because "steeping" (See above if you prefer different term) is a personal choice. One person may feel like it only needs a week, some a month . . .

I find the whole practice a bit un-necessary, however, I also have multiple bottles on hand at a time and don't go through a lot of them. So, I guess I "steep", i'm just not trying to, lol.

A lot of vendors are pretty upfront about "steeping" recommendations and that the flavors can change over time.

I've heard the shelf life for a bottle of juice stored properly is a year. Personally, if I ever have a bottle that lasts a year, I'm just tossing it because I obviously don't like it to not have gotten desperate enough to vape it when I ran low on other things, lol.
 
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