Why the ego c twist is a game changer

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Thanks, that's sweet of you fl Yer :). (I hope you find your slice of vaping heaven too). However I am also very much in love with my v8, but that's a whole different kettle of fish. My fancy eGo's and my Twist are perfect for out and about and I'm loving my V8 for home or reading in bed...

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I'm glad this came out for the newbies. I may pick up one just to give it a shot. Bottom line is I love my provari and my buzz pro. They maintain the voltage pure and true. I don't want even a .1 voltage drop through the life of my battery. Plus my Phiniacs and bella would look a bit silly on an ego style batt.
 

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1. Too little power to work with higher resistance cartos/addys. Doesn't give enough range - too little current and/or voltage

Then don't use them with it. Problem solved.

2. Some carto/addys/juices provide better vapor, flavor, throat hit in the higher power ranges. Some find they prefer warmer vapor. With LR carto's/addys, bigger batteries last much longer. Twist is a disposable. Devices with replaceable batteries are much more economical in the long term.

It's pretty much about watts, not so much volts. See (1) above.

3. Lavatube regular or mini come to mind. There are several others.

Completely different form factor.

Match your resistances to your device. Higher resistance for higher voltage, lower resistance for lower voltage. Find the sweet spot that will allow you to use the highest resistance you can to maximize battery life and stay within amp limits while still providing enough wattage for any juice. This is not rocket surgery.
 

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I fail to understand why anyone insists on comparing the Twist to the Provari.
I picked up an 650 Ego-c a couple weeks ago and am impressed with the hassle free performance. I've always liked 4.5 volts but with this, I don't think I need higher voltage. That said, I just ordered a Twist and a passthrough because I want vaping to be hassle free and not a hobby or an obsession! Been there, done that. Analogs are hassle free. Pack & a Bic.
In my perfect world, it would be an auto batt. I bought an echo but it's too heavy, too big, no idea how much liquid is left... wierd taste...
At <$25, The Twist will be instead of a couple of disposables, standard batts, or an SD Keyring! That's a no-brainer.
 

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1. Too little power to work with higher resistance cartos/addys. Doesn't give enough range - too little current and/or voltage
2. Some carto/addys/juices provide better vapor, flavor, throat hit in the higher power ranges. Some find they prefer warmer vapor. With LR carto's/addys, bigger batteries last much longer. Twist is a disposable. Devices with replaceable batteries are much more economical in the long term.
3. Lavatube regular or mini come to mind. There are several others.

Yep... what he said... exactly. Twist is ideal as a starter unit... it may even be the perfect longterm unit for someone who doesn't demand a whole lot of flexibility and performance and just likes that lowish voltage vape with low amps. But it cannot be compared to something like a lavatube, let alone a provari. The voltage it reaches are just one of many factors that make those good mods. And ego isn't a mod... never will be. That doesn't make it any better or worse.. just different and a long term ego user is different than a long term mod user.

However, I'll tell ya.. the first year I was on an ego, I could read 1000 posts about vv and mod vaping, and smile and laugh to myself that these people are making it WAY harder than it needs to be... good ego, good cartos.. good to go. lol You really can't experience or fully understand the differences we're talking about till you get into modding, so my advice is.. don't worry about it. If you're happy with your ego.. twist or otherwise... don't let anyone talk you OUT of being happy with it. Ridiculous for both parties to try. lol But just understand that some people aren't, any longer, whether the ego goes up to 4.8v or not. Totally different experience. And yeah, you'll find people getting snarky when you try to compare a provari to just about anything. I would be too if I'd paid $160 bones for one. It is an exemplary unit.. perhaps the most exemplary unit. However... not everyone needs that. So till you become a 'vape chaser' constantly looking for the higher range of experience, just don't sweat it. lol They can be happy with their mods, and you can be happy with your ego. No worries. lol Not everyone is built the same. ;)

And thanks, ya'll! Glad to know there's not a twist batt kit out there I was missing. Ended up recommending (keep in mind thes are people who do a bunch of digital art, so often connected to a puter) 1 1000mah ego passthrough, 1 650 mah twist, pack of 15 1.7ohm cartos (and yeah, I realize they can't go over 4.4 or 4.5 with the 1.7s... they're beginners, so I'm not overly worried about that part) and a sampler of juices from the vapor room. ;)

and ericd... lmao about 'rocket surgery'. lol I'm so stealing that one.

And dragonbone... where the heck did you get the gold V8? i have a V6 (multi voltage, not really variable in .1 increments) that I'm fond of. I think I like it about as well as I like my lavatube and tox, and for the cost, its nuts good deal. I've been looking at Discount Vapers, just cause I love eric and his prices are ridonkulous low. But I've only seen the V8 in white and black. Dying to know where you got the gold one!
 
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Wow ok, lol!

I bought it from alibaba China. But I've been thinking, there has been quite some interest in my gold one since I started showing it off, (lol) so I'm pretty sure that if you asked Eric, he would order some gold ones. Just a thought.

(Reason I say that is because alibaba is a wholesaler, not vendor, and they have min. orders)
 
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The other day I tried something at 3.7, I almost passed out lol.
I vaped at 3.7 volts for well over two years, until i got my high voltage NiMH batteries.

Now I can't go back to 3.7 volts because it just makes me a sad panda.
In fact, I am going to sell off my Reo Mini because I cringe at the thought of using it anymore.

My only problem is I have no clue what I am going to it with.
 

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I vaped at 3.7 volts for well over two years, until i got my high voltage NiMH batteries.
Now I can't go back to 3.7 volts because it just makes me a sad panda.
In fact, I am going to sell off my Reo Mini because I cringe at the thought of using it anymore.
My only problem is I have no clue what I am going to it with.
IMHO, your carto or whatever's resitance is something you should possibly check. Can't be having a sad panda now...
 

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IMHO, your carto or whatever's resitance is something you should possibly check. Can't be having a sad panda now...
Not really, I just like to vape at 10 watts.
Anything less bums me out now.

Of course, before I tried 10 watts, I was perfectly happy.
But now there is no going back.
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Excuse my blind ignorance, but what exactly is 10 watts if I'm vaping on my Provari for eg. What voltage would I set it on? Not sure I follow you...
It depends on the resistance you are using...
Ohm's Law Calculator

I use standard Joye 510 atomizers (about 2.3 ohms) and like to vape at around 5.0 volts.
That's actually close to 11 watts, but I generally like things at 10 watts or higher for the most part.

However, I have been told that my NiMH batteries under load offer less voltage than without load.
I wouldn't know about that, and consequently I really don't know what wattage I am really vaping under.

But I'm pretty sure it is at least 9 watts, and probably over 10 for the most part.
 

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Just checking in...as the OP, I never intended for this to be provari vs twist or lavatube vs twist debate. My main point was that the twist may put pressure on those higher end (especially the LT. Maybe not the ProVari) mods to come down a bit in price as the twist grabs those folks who would have normally gone from ego to LT or provari to not migrate up.

Also, 4.8V (which the twist does) = 10 Watts right? I think thats right so the twist does 10W. Not to shabby.
 

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Excuse my blind ignorance, but what exactly is 10 watts if I'm vaping on my Provari for eg. What voltage would I set it on? Not sure I follow you...

This is a pretty good thread on the subject:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ined-detail-single-dual-coil-atty-cartos.html

It cleared up a lot of things for me. The main thing I took away from it was that you need twice as many watts with a dual coil as you do with a single coil to get each coil to a particular temperature. For that reason, I have decided for myself that dual coils make little or no sense, and that single coils are the way to go. It seems to me that the best vape (and longest battery life) can be had by powering a single coil - which inside a carto will likely have better juice saturation that the upper coil of a dual coil carto - at just the right wattage for a particular juice.

This leads me to believe that the Twist should work great with 2-3 ohm single coil cartos, 2-3 ohm Bulli attys, standard resistance Joyetech -C attys, and a wide variety of other attachments.

To the person who seems to think that every new thing that comes out is a"game-changer", I disagree. A new thing is not a game-changer unless it changes the game. The Twist very likely does just that.

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"Also, 4.8V (which the twist does) = 10 Watts right? I think thats right so the twist does 10W. Not too shabby".

Ohms Law says that volts x volts / resistance in ohms = watts

4.8 volts @ 2.3 ohms = 10.02 watts

4.8 volts @ 1.5 ohms = 15.36 watts

4.8 volts @ 3.0 ohms = 7.68 watts

4.8 volts @ 4.0 ohms = 5.76 watts

4.8 volts @ 5.0 ohms = 4.61 watts


Again, with dual coils wired in parallel (two 3-ohm coils wired in parallel = 1.5 ohms effective resistance of the particular dual-coil device) - twice as many total watts are required by that device to warm each of the two coils to the same temperature than a single coil would be warmed to - in this case, a single 1.5 ohm coil.
 
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