Why the ego c twist is a game changer
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My main concern is that 4.8 volts might be too low for me.
I have to wonder if what you think is ten watts per coil is actually more like 5 watts per coil because you're using a dual coil atty/carto. I think this is a common area of confusion/misunderstanding.
10 watts on a single 2.0 ohm coil would require about 4.48 volts (@ 2.23 amps) - well within the capabilities of the Twist.
10 watts per coil on a 2.0 ohm dual coil would require about 6.32 volts, which is not.
Single coil, 510 thread.
They are the 510 atomizers that came on the first 510 mini-cig when they hit the market three years ago.
When they came out there was no such thing as dual-coil, or even low resistance for that matter.
In fact, there wasn't even such a thing as variable voltage.
They are the 510 atomizers that came on the first 510 mini-cig when they hit the market three years ago.
When they came out there was no such thing as dual-coil, or even low resistance for that matter.
In fact, there wasn't even such a thing as variable voltage.
I just received my Twists and Stardusts. Wow! This is THE system for eGo vaping.
I don't own any of the more expensive MODs or even have any experience with them, but this combo of eGo Twist and the higher resistance Stardusts is a combo made in heaven!!
Tons of vapour!!!
Do yourself a favour and try this combo! They look very elegant together and work great! Much better combo than the original eGo C kit, in every way. Including aesthetics.
If I were to do it again I would bypass the eGo C kit and buy the Twist/Stardust combo. THe Stardust is not much more expensive than the eGo C atomizers and they include the cart and mouthpiece.
The Twist is no comparison to the regular eGo battery experience. The regular eGo could be very unsatisfying in terms of TH and vapour quantity. Turning that little VV dial on the Twist makes a HUGE difference.
I think the Twist may have an impact on the Provaris,Lavatubes, Super-Ts, etc., but I realize that many people will want a higher quality, more powerful unit. I think there is room for both eGo people and Provari people and Lavatube people, etc., it's just that, for me at this time, the Twist/Stardust combo is great, both when considering cost and also when not considering price.
It's cheap enough to give it a try. Maybe it will become your camping system?
I don't own any of the more expensive MODs or even have any experience with them, but this combo of eGo Twist and the higher resistance Stardusts is a combo made in heaven!!
Tons of vapour!!!
Do yourself a favour and try this combo! They look very elegant together and work great! Much better combo than the original eGo C kit, in every way. Including aesthetics.
If I were to do it again I would bypass the eGo C kit and buy the Twist/Stardust combo. THe Stardust is not much more expensive than the eGo C atomizers and they include the cart and mouthpiece.
The Twist is no comparison to the regular eGo battery experience. The regular eGo could be very unsatisfying in terms of TH and vapour quantity. Turning that little VV dial on the Twist makes a HUGE difference.
I think the Twist may have an impact on the Provaris,Lavatubes, Super-Ts, etc., but I realize that many people will want a higher quality, more powerful unit. I think there is room for both eGo people and Provari people and Lavatube people, etc., it's just that, for me at this time, the Twist/Stardust combo is great, both when considering cost and also when not considering price.
It's cheap enough to give it a try. Maybe it will become your camping system?
I have some Stardusts and a Twist on the way. Would you please let me(us) know what resistance your stardusts are, and what voltage you're setting your twist to? It would be a big help for me when it's time to try them out. Thanks!
Jonner:
I'm at 4.0 on the Twist dial which is right in the middle. Plenty of room to adjust either way.
The Stardusts are the standard resistance SR. I think the LRs might not give you as much of a "sweet spot".
You'll be very satisfied, especially if you pay what i did. (www.CANVAPE.com)
No more eGo C atomizers and cartridges for me.
You can hear a big difference in the juice being fired up with the Twist. Much more electricity getting to the juice!
If regcigs made the advancements/price ratio that the eGo system has recently, the stores would be giving regcigs away!!
Ego's are still practising Moore's law, at a more rapid pace.
I now have to vape with the window's open, the vapour production has increased that much!
I'm at 4.0 on the Twist dial which is right in the middle. Plenty of room to adjust either way.
The Stardusts are the standard resistance SR. I think the LRs might not give you as much of a "sweet spot".
You'll be very satisfied, especially if you pay what i did. (www.CANVAPE.com)
No more eGo C atomizers and cartridges for me.
You can hear a big difference in the juice being fired up with the Twist. Much more electricity getting to the juice!
If regcigs made the advancements/price ratio that the eGo system has recently, the stores would be giving regcigs away!!
Ego's are still practising Moore's law, at a more rapid pace.
I now have to vape with the window's open, the vapour production has increased that much!
I also considered the size of the Stardust tanks for sampling DIY mixes and realized I still don't need the regular eGo C system, I can simply drip on an original atomizer and take the cap off the tank when putting the mouthpiece back in.
dham..that's exactly what I said about provari when lavatube came out with a chrome model, with a 3 amp switch.... getting more and more competitive in terms of features. Yeah, build quality and resale and upgrade functions aren't there yet.. but one is $80 (and falling fast) and one is over 2wice that, for full size model. Just hoping translates into some sort of savings.
And Cm7b5.. thank you so much for your post re: the twist. I used it to illustrate to some new people I'm helping get up with gear why they might be better served buying 2 twists rather than an 1100mah ego kit. And was just trying to explain the stardust to em. BTW, my only issue with the stardust is the stubby wicks, and you can get longer wicked versions, as well as the CE5.. which is exactly a ce4, but has a 'replaceable core' so you can easily switch flavors, etc, and they last longer. That's DiscountVapers - Your source for savings on electronic cigarettes and accessories, Go-go eGo, vGo. People who love the CE4/Stardust are raving about the Ce4+ with longer wicks and the CE5+ replaceable core models. Eric is a great vendor, too. You'll get the CE5+ replaceables for less than you pay for CE4s lots of other places, and then replacement cores are only like $1.75. And he's got a killer forum if you need to talk troubleshooting, etc. He replaces ones that crack instantly and stuff usually, too, whereas most vendors... no dice. rofl
And Cm7b5.. thank you so much for your post re: the twist. I used it to illustrate to some new people I'm helping get up with gear why they might be better served buying 2 twists rather than an 1100mah ego kit. And was just trying to explain the stardust to em. BTW, my only issue with the stardust is the stubby wicks, and you can get longer wicked versions, as well as the CE5.. which is exactly a ce4, but has a 'replaceable core' so you can easily switch flavors, etc, and they last longer. That's DiscountVapers - Your source for savings on electronic cigarettes and accessories, Go-go eGo, vGo. People who love the CE4/Stardust are raving about the Ce4+ with longer wicks and the CE5+ replaceable core models. Eric is a great vendor, too. You'll get the CE5+ replaceables for less than you pay for CE4s lots of other places, and then replacement cores are only like $1.75. And he's got a killer forum if you need to talk troubleshooting, etc. He replaces ones that crack instantly and stuff usually, too, whereas most vendors... no dice. rofl
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510 usually refers to the threading. For instance... a regular lavatube has a 510 connection. You need an adapter to make it work with something like a CE4/Stardust that's designed with an ego 'skirt' covering the 510 male connection. And with something like an atty, connector is all that matters because for the most part an atty is just a tiny thing that screws into the connector itself, doesn't have to extend over it. So you can just as easily use a 510 atty on an ego as you can any 'standard' 510 device with a flat top, with out those ego threads, no adapters required. BUT all that being said, if you're using a 510 atty on something like ego or ego twist, you may want to get yourself a 'Thread cover' which is just a little piece of metal that screws over the exposed threads on the ego connection and makes it look all streamlined or nice. Yell out if that confused you more and I'll find a photo for ya.
I have LR Stardusts 1.8-2.o OHM (just happened to be what I already had). My Twist is set wll below 4 volts... 3.4. But one doesn't really need to know all the mumbo jumbo IMHO. Just start on the lowest and crank up until you find what's good for you. Good luck and happy vaping. You will LOVE that set up!
510 usually refers to the threading. For instance... a regular lavatube has a 510 connection. You need an adapter to make it work with something like a CE4/Stardust that's designed with an ego 'skirt' covering the 510 male connection. And with something like an atty, connector is all that matters because for the most part an atty is just a tiny thing that screws into the connector itself, doesn't have to extend over it. So you can just as easily use a 510 atty on an ego as you can any 'standard' 510 device with a flat top, with out those ego threads, no adapters required. BUT all that being said, if you're using a 510 atty on something like ego or ego twist, you may want to get yourself a 'Thread cover' which is just a little piece of metal that screws over the exposed threads on the ego connection and makes it look all streamlined or nice. Yell out if that confused you more and I'll find a photo for ya.
I don't think he was confused about the difference between 510 and eGo threading....
I have only read the original post, but had to share my thoughts so forgive me if I end up regurgitating something someone else already said.
I have been vaping for a little over a month now, and the sticker shock just wasn't really there for me. It's not that I'm 'well off' or anything, but I took a lot of vapers advice from here and simply acquiesced to the fact that although there is a front-loaded price tag to get started, it's almost *needed* when you first start vaping and the price significantly drops once you find what you're looking for. The caveat to all that is that you usually don't find what you're looking for right off the bat. I mean, you're okay with what you have (say a GenJoye 510 with carts or dripping) but you just feel like you want something more.
I started off with the aforementioned GenJoye and as I said I liked it..but very quickly (within a couple of days) knew I needed something more. I made the jump to a Vector Variable Volt VV device from Vapor Beast and loved it. I used that extensively for almost a month and yet my problems were that A) it was kind of awkward to take out with me (especially using Smok 1.7 Jumbos or, Resurrectors) and B) I wasn't really feeling the carto taste. So the first step I took to finding my perfect vape was to try and get a smaller form factor PV..and coincidentally the Twists were dropping. I bought two with a pack of Stardusts and they have performed admirable considering how cheap they are (I bought them from Health Cabin, a Chinese vendor) but they were strictly 'Going out tonight!,' PVs and upon arriving home I would immediately fire up my VVV.
It's not that they weren't good, it's just that Stardusts can be a little finicky and deliver a muted taste. I tried to stay on the clearo path because I just don't like the taste of cartos as much (this is that progression thing I've been alluding to..how could I know that I really didn't like carto filler until I'd tried something without it?) and got some GotVapes Phoenixes. These have MUCH better flavor than the Stardusts, and if they didn't have so much tinkering about them I would probably still be using them. After much consideration and just not being totally satisfied, I took stock of what I had learned so far both on this site and for myself and went back to dripping for awhile. It was the best of both worlds. Taste, ease of maintenance and easy flavor switching without all the fiddle faddle. The only problem with dripping is obviously that it's....dripping! It's really awkward and not very feasible to go out to the store or wherever and have to break out the ol' bottle and drip. So, I spent some money and grabbed myself a Reos Grand, some AW IMR 18650s and a couple of LR attys. It took me a week, but now I can't imagine going back to cartos, clearos or even my VV..because 3.7 volts offers plenty of wattage with a 1.5 ohm HH357.
I hope I haven't bored anyone up to this point but I offer my admittedly short vaping history as a means to explain why I don't agree with the original post, at least in terms of the Twists changing the 'game', as it were. You see, for every poor person trying to quit the stinkies who tries those kiosk jobbies and isn't satisfied and goes back to smoking there's another person who has already done that, and has decided to give it one more go and actually does some research into better PVs, methods and things to try. I know, because that poor person was me! I would have never gone for a Reos Grand if I hadn't gone through what seems for the majority of people here the natural newbie progression. If people just bought a Twist and say, some Stardusts..how would they know if they REALLY like that or if maybe something else would satisfy them to the max?
Just my own opinion, and I really did enjoy your post OP.
I have been vaping for a little over a month now, and the sticker shock just wasn't really there for me. It's not that I'm 'well off' or anything, but I took a lot of vapers advice from here and simply acquiesced to the fact that although there is a front-loaded price tag to get started, it's almost *needed* when you first start vaping and the price significantly drops once you find what you're looking for. The caveat to all that is that you usually don't find what you're looking for right off the bat. I mean, you're okay with what you have (say a GenJoye 510 with carts or dripping) but you just feel like you want something more.
I started off with the aforementioned GenJoye and as I said I liked it..but very quickly (within a couple of days) knew I needed something more. I made the jump to a Vector Variable Volt VV device from Vapor Beast and loved it. I used that extensively for almost a month and yet my problems were that A) it was kind of awkward to take out with me (especially using Smok 1.7 Jumbos or, Resurrectors) and B) I wasn't really feeling the carto taste. So the first step I took to finding my perfect vape was to try and get a smaller form factor PV..and coincidentally the Twists were dropping. I bought two with a pack of Stardusts and they have performed admirable considering how cheap they are (I bought them from Health Cabin, a Chinese vendor) but they were strictly 'Going out tonight!,' PVs and upon arriving home I would immediately fire up my VVV.
It's not that they weren't good, it's just that Stardusts can be a little finicky and deliver a muted taste. I tried to stay on the clearo path because I just don't like the taste of cartos as much (this is that progression thing I've been alluding to..how could I know that I really didn't like carto filler until I'd tried something without it?) and got some GotVapes Phoenixes. These have MUCH better flavor than the Stardusts, and if they didn't have so much tinkering about them I would probably still be using them. After much consideration and just not being totally satisfied, I took stock of what I had learned so far both on this site and for myself and went back to dripping for awhile. It was the best of both worlds. Taste, ease of maintenance and easy flavor switching without all the fiddle faddle. The only problem with dripping is obviously that it's....dripping! It's really awkward and not very feasible to go out to the store or wherever and have to break out the ol' bottle and drip. So, I spent some money and grabbed myself a Reos Grand, some AW IMR 18650s and a couple of LR attys. It took me a week, but now I can't imagine going back to cartos, clearos or even my VV..because 3.7 volts offers plenty of wattage with a 1.5 ohm HH357.
I hope I haven't bored anyone up to this point but I offer my admittedly short vaping history as a means to explain why I don't agree with the original post, at least in terms of the Twists changing the 'game', as it were. You see, for every poor person trying to quit the stinkies who tries those kiosk jobbies and isn't satisfied and goes back to smoking there's another person who has already done that, and has decided to give it one more go and actually does some research into better PVs, methods and things to try. I know, because that poor person was me! I would have never gone for a Reos Grand if I hadn't gone through what seems for the majority of people here the natural newbie progression. If people just bought a Twist and say, some Stardusts..how would they know if they REALLY like that or if maybe something else would satisfy them to the max?
Just my own opinion, and I really did enjoy your post OP.
Good post Rlh, but bottom feeders are a completely different kettle of fish. I have one too and love it. But bottom feeders are not for everyone and/or every place. There is no way I will take mine to work or out to a restaurant or whatever even though it's a gorgeous pink zebra one. For one thing, my boss and co-workers would not be impressed. I will however proudly vape on my eGo or eGo Twist anywhere . But I suppose it depends on the person how comfortable they are showing off their devices in public and/or fending off, or dealing with questions, stares and glares.
. But I suppose it depends on the person how comfortable they are showing off their devices in public and/or fending off, or dealing with questions, stares and glares.
Good post Rlh, but bottom feeders are a completely different kettle of fish. I have one too and love it. But bottom feeders are not for everyone and/or every place. There is no way I will take mine to work or out to a restaurant or whatever even though it's a gorgeous pink zebra one. For one thing, my boss and co-workers would not be impressed. I will however proudly vape on my eGo or eGo Twist anywhere
You have some pretty shiny Twists with dragons on them!
ThanksYou have some pretty shiny Twists with dragons on them!
. Actually there is just one VV Twist in the lineup, the rest are eGo's. They are all from Health Cabin except for the tiny orange and pink batteries.I can't WAIT for the Twists to come out in the engraved and embossed range!
I think you're conflating PVs and attachments. I think many people would be very happy with a Joyetech Twist fitted with a Bulli atomizer.
Your dissatisfaction with cartos, clearos, or what-have-you-o's does little to change the utility or lack thereof of the Twist as a nice little VV device at a nice little price.
Once again, I agree very strongly with the original post.
No Bulli for me thanks. For the DIY types who like to fiddle, yes awesome and I'm sure it would look absolutely fabulous on a Twist. But I am way past struggling. I just want to fill up, screw on and start vaping. Not working so well anymore, clean or discard. Yes, I'm lazy hehe...
Fine, don't buy one then. But for those who aren't lazy, the Bulli atomizer just might be the best and most economical (in the long run) atomizer ever made, with the possible exception of the Odysseus and a scant few others. You can get a lifetime supply of resistance wire for maybe $50, since a coil is said to last for maybe 6 weeks before it finally burns up. Replaceable/customizable wicks, great hits, wind up whatever resistance you want, great flavor - tough to beat. Speaking of game-changers - I give you - the rebuildable atomizer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkDIud1d7K0
If this guy can rebuild one, I have a feeling anyone can.
Scott Bonner's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYOHYdNqiks&feature=relmfu
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