Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

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I'd be willing to bet my life that one inhales more cotton fibers emptying the clothes dryer once, than a lifetime of vaping from a fiber wick.

Im glad somebody said this, finally. All those nasty respiratory diseases people got with cotton fibers were in the 19th century cotton mills where cotton fibers floated in the air like snow flakes. Also, cotton is organic and will rot and be digested in the moisture of the lungs, whereas silica is not.
 

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I had a similar thought when reading some of these threads. However, I do think that I will continue to read as much about vaping safety as I can handle until some definitive research on vaping uses of these materials is published.
Apologies for the mini hijack that follows...I've read as much as I can on flavorings. I have noticed that some make my nose run or throat tighten. I'm starting to believe that one needs to be very careful with flavors...
Stop vaping that jalapeno chocolate juice.
 

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Is this a thing: from Avid Vapors; 316 stainless steel wire cable. This very flexible stainless cable consists of 133 Twisted Stainless threads (7 Bundles of 19 threads per bundle). This cable will require torching to create a non-resistant oxidation layer before wrapping with our favorite resistance wire.
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Is this a thing: from Avid Vapors; 316 stainless steel wire cable. This very flexible stainless cable consists of 133 Twisted Stainless threads (7 Bundles of 19 threads per bundle). This cable will require torching to create a non-resistant oxidation layer before wrapping with our favorite resistance wire.
There are vapers using ss cables as wicks and they claim the material wicks well. Some untwist the cable (in this case, into 7 strands) and put them back together to make sure there is some space between them to allow for wicking. But yes, it is a thing...
 

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133 wires in the cable. 3 inches of 500 mesh rolled tight in a wick has 1500 wires, guess which has more capillary action. It is the very tiny holes between the wires that give better capillary action, unwinding the wire just makes it worse. SS cable is not a wick, it is a tube you pour juice on to the coil with by tipping.

Is this a thing: from Avid Vapors; 316 stainless steel wire cable. This very flexible stainless cable consists of 133 Twisted Stainless threads (7 Bundles of 19 threads per bundle). This cable will require torching to create a non-resistant oxidation layer before wrapping with our favorite resistance wire.
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I started a thread about my experience with Lydia's, it was suggested I bring my concerns here because all the Lydia's bamboo users are in here. I'm getting an awful amount of threads stuck in the back of my throat. The flavor is awesome after break-in, but the scratchiness is unbearable. I boiled it for 40 minutes with a water change, so I don't suspect it's anything but this fuzz which plucks off with ease. Anyone else experience this?

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I've already switched back to cotton and now silica, and the irritations are gone. The downside is, I can't taste my juice because I spoiled myself all day with the bamboo.
 
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Really?...I've been using bamboo exclusively for...I can't even remember now, a long time...not saying it's not happening, maybe you just have a sensitivity to it?...you gotta go with what works for you.
How many watts do you vape at? I'm up around 13 on that device, maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know, I wish it wasn't happening because the vape was so good, otherwise, and now I can't find anything satisfying, tonight.
 

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How many watts do you vape at? I'm up around 13 on that device, maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know, I wish it wasn't happening because the vape was so good, otherwise, and now I can't find anything satisfying, tonight.

1 ohm 28 awg coil, bf ERA's...but the thing with bf's is you can (and I do) drown the wick and power through the excess of juice...I squonk often, I doubt my bamboo is throwing off too much fluff cause it's so wet, but with another type of build/device???, hey, silica spalls, why not the bamboo...
 

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It is very likely that a) When you boiled out your bamboo it was a high rolling boil rather than a slow easy one. b) You are running the bamboo dry or near dry at 13 WATTS.

A. The bamboo is breaking down due to the rapid boil.
B. If bamboo is not wet enough or is drying out during your draw, you could be singing the bamboo causing particles to come off.

I use bamboo in my drunker tank, CE tanks, vivi novas and anything else that comes across my bench.

I hope this helps.

How many watts do you vape at? I'm up around 13 on that device, maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know, I wish it wasn't happening because the vape was so good, otherwise, and now I can't find anything satisfying, tonight.
 

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I tried another bamboo wick after my throat calmed down, because I wanted to be sure about what was happening. After about 10 minutes, I started swallowing hairs again, and my throat started to tighten at the back of my jaw bone. I'm not sure what it is but I noticed a good clump of fibers in the drip well of my A7oid. The wick was soaking wet, not choked and had the slightest brown spot under the coil. I'm thinking it's not a good device for this yarn, I might try it again in the future on a higher resistance coil, in a larger dripper where it's easier to keep it wet and the air has more time to circulate.
 

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Sounds like your sensitive to something in there USinchains, that sucks

FWIW I run my bamboo set ups as high as 15W frequently, but as quigs said that's in a BF scenario so everything is soaked...and that's with mucho wraps of 30 awg around a 14 gauge needle, which is a bit of an energy hog so...
 

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You know, the more I think about it and re-read some of my posts commenting on the fluff phenomena...I think I need to stop calling the bamboo in my bf set-ups a "wick"...it's really not wicking anything, it's more a medium with a heating coil wrapped around it that I force inject juice into. You guys that are endeavouring to find that balance between gravity, capillary action and power are the true mad scientists :toast:

Normally I keep my bamboo right at the saturation point...with a bf that's easy, it's to the point where I now almost without thought squonk till a bead of juice appears at the airhole, done...however, I got to thinking about the fluff thing last night and vaped one of my Grand/ERA's to the point where it tasted like crap and pulled the cap to take a look...the fluffy bits on the surface of the bamboo were as plain as the balls on a tall dog...I could imagine micro pops blowing the fluff off that could be inhaled (especially at 13+ watts). That, combined with peeps that may have a sensitivity to that bamboo fluff could be an issue. The human body is a complicated thing, just like pollen, moulds, cat dander, etc. that runs afoul with one persons histamines but not another's, I doubt bamboo (or any organic we use for that matter) is an "across the board" irritant, but for some, sure...I wouldn't discount it.
 
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