Ok I have been cheating, but I really like it. On the last Vivi experiment I trimmed the silica wick close to the cup and just laid the rolled cotton wick on top. Actually it was the same one I had been vaping for two weeks with the cotton over the coil and original wick. I am still using the same cotton batten wick and every three days I take it apart, wash and dry burn the coil and silica, rinse the cotton and assemble. Very easy, no threading thru the coil. I am amazed that the cotton wick has lasted so long. With my diy juice I get a lot of gunk so I have to wash and dry burn often and this way it is very easy and the small silica wick remaining allows dry burning.
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I wonder well it would vape if you made a "taco coil" but left the top open and just laid the wick in the taco. I gotta go and find the taco coil set-up. If it would work would be easy as pie to dry burn and re-wick.
hmmm... maybe just bend the edges up a little to cradle the wick ....
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Yeah, that's pretty much what the taco coil does. Gotta try this
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Thx TC, was just going to try and do the math on that...so wth, why don't these guys at least get back to me?
but...at $250 for a 3280 ft, that's about $7/100ft...not much of a deal over ebay's $4/75ft (when it's there)
Thanks Dan
Q, the ebay guys probably buy 50+lbs, which drops the price. Nichrome works and there seems to be plenty of that around for anyone in desperate need.
Q, the ebay guys probably buy 50+lbs, which drops the price. Nichrome works and there seems to be plenty of that around for anyone in desperate need.
I don't know about a restart. I found the thread read some and stayed up with it for a few weeks now and have learned a lot in that time from the posts that have come up.
Excellent idea, which has been brought up before. Currently the only thing that I've been doing is re-wicking CE2s with rolled cotton; so, not much first-hand experience to pass along.
If those of us who have tried various materials and have found one or more that works best could do a short explanation with results and make a post. If you click on the "Go Advanced" button under the quick reply box, you can add a title to your post.
Then we could possibly combine these posts and see about getting it 'stickied'.
Whatcha think?
If it does happen, EvilGrym's original post ought to be included/copied/whatever...with permission, I suppose.
Glad to see this was brought up again. I forgot all about it.
I used a E-2 air tube and soldered 5 pieces of copper wire on it. Got the idea from Nico's custom wire twister with one nubby on it. You fold the wire in half and start at the middle one. wind the wire around till you get to the next post's, Loop it around and go back the other way. Repeat if necessarily.
I used a E-2 air tube and soldered 5 pieces of copper wire on it. Got the idea from Nico's custom wire twister with one nubby on it. You fold the wire in half and start at the middle one. wind the wire around till you get to the next post's, Loop it around and go back the other way. Repeat if necessarily.
I want to thank all the participants in this conversation. All your contributions made this super informative about fiber wicks and all the choices one must make. I will thanks to a wealth of knowledge available here begin my own DIY builds soon.
You have inspired me.
You have inspired me.
...welcome!
This afternoon I received a "100% Bamboo Yarn Sample." I took one strand which seemed to be about a foot long and folded it over 6 times to obtain a length that was appropriate for my Echo Crystal Vision cartomizers. I wound a somewhat lose coil of 34 ga. Kanthal and obtained a coil which my Ohmeter indicates is 4.8 Ohms, assembled and wet. I'm vaping RW Vapors' RY4, 24 mg/ml at ~5 Volts.
It's a good vape...thanks Supervape!
PS Tomorrow I should be receiving a small order of #2 square-woven cotton candle wick.
It's a good vape...thanks Supervape!
PS Tomorrow I should be receiving a small order of #2 square-woven cotton candle wick.
Just unscrewed rebuild able part of Penelope with #2 wick ran it under hot water and gave it a hit with a toothbrush. Wick is shiny white again after 3 days of use and tastes great again. No need to build new coil.
Due to this thread I started experiment over the last couple days with different types of organic wicks and have had not only satisfactory but impressive results.
I was using the 3mm silica in Odysseus and Penelope rebuildable atomizers with a triple wick design in the cup. Meaning one wick down each channel but a total of three strands on the top wrapped in the coil. This was producing the nice saturated hits that I was after especially on long draws. However a few days ago I had a larger piece of silica shoot to the back of my throat after a coil rebuild. It was a one off but I didn't like it and I hacked a lot from it. It really did a number on my throat for a while and I decided it wasn't a scenario I wanted to repeat.
Read through most of this thread and ordered some items:
Organic Cheese Cloth - Cut a 3inch wide piece and rolled it into a wick as per a post somewhere in the middle of this thread. Did a triple wick design just like with the silica. It worked really well but it was simply too much wick on the top as it puffed out and it lead to a really right draw. Nothing unpleasant about it, flavor and vapor were great. The wick was performing very well but I didn't like the tighter draw. Changed the wick to a double wick design and it replicates the silica wick very well. The draw is largely the same and the flavor and vapor are fantastic. Pretty happy with the cheesecloth overall.
100% Cotton Square Braided Candle Wick(unleaded and unprimed) Size #1/0 - Let me say this stuff is perfect for me. It's a bit thinner then the silica dry but a bit thicker then the 3mm silica wet. Wet it's probably about a 3.5mm silica wick equivalent which is actually the perfect size for the Penelope or Odysseus. Boiled the heck out of it and didn't see anything come out of it and sit on top of the water. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing but I'll keep boiling it as it seems like a good practice over all. This stuff is super easy to work with, no fraying, rolling and cuts really easily.
Both of these wick about the same but the cotton candle wick is more readily available(amazon prime with free delivery) and it's extremely easy to work with. So far no blackening or burning and no funny tastes. They both wick much much better then the silica as well and the juice control on the devices only needs to be opened to half of what it was before. If I open it the same amount the wick gets so saturated that it squirts juice up the mouth piece. This is obviously not an issue at all as you just open the juice control less. I'm extremely impressed so far.
I was using the 3mm silica in Odysseus and Penelope rebuildable atomizers with a triple wick design in the cup. Meaning one wick down each channel but a total of three strands on the top wrapped in the coil. This was producing the nice saturated hits that I was after especially on long draws. However a few days ago I had a larger piece of silica shoot to the back of my throat after a coil rebuild. It was a one off but I didn't like it and I hacked a lot from it. It really did a number on my throat for a while and I decided it wasn't a scenario I wanted to repeat.
Read through most of this thread and ordered some items:
Organic Cheese Cloth - Cut a 3inch wide piece and rolled it into a wick as per a post somewhere in the middle of this thread. Did a triple wick design just like with the silica. It worked really well but it was simply too much wick on the top as it puffed out and it lead to a really right draw. Nothing unpleasant about it, flavor and vapor were great. The wick was performing very well but I didn't like the tighter draw. Changed the wick to a double wick design and it replicates the silica wick very well. The draw is largely the same and the flavor and vapor are fantastic. Pretty happy with the cheesecloth overall.
100% Cotton Square Braided Candle Wick(unleaded and unprimed) Size #1/0 - Let me say this stuff is perfect for me. It's a bit thinner then the silica dry but a bit thicker then the 3mm silica wet. Wet it's probably about a 3.5mm silica wick equivalent which is actually the perfect size for the Penelope or Odysseus. Boiled the heck out of it and didn't see anything come out of it and sit on top of the water. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing but I'll keep boiling it as it seems like a good practice over all. This stuff is super easy to work with, no fraying, rolling and cuts really easily.
Both of these wick about the same but the cotton candle wick is more readily available(amazon prime with free delivery) and it's extremely easy to work with. So far no blackening or burning and no funny tastes. They both wick much much better then the silica as well and the juice control on the devices only needs to be opened to half of what it was before. If I open it the same amount the wick gets so saturated that it squirts juice up the mouth piece. This is obviously not an issue at all as you just open the juice control less. I'm extremely impressed so far.
Cotton wick on top of cutoff original wick. This cotton wick has been in use for weeks and just has slight discoloration where it sits on the coil, no burn. Gets washed every three days.
Picture of the 100 percent cotton #1/0 wick in an Odysseus V2 assembly. It's wet at this point so you can see how well it fills the channels when it is wet. Same fit in a Penelope and tiny bit tighter in a V1 Odysseus but still a perfect fit.
Wicks like crazy. I would not advise doing a triple wick, a double is in fact wicking better then a triple silica. Still perfect.
Wicks like crazy. I would not advise doing a triple wick, a double is in fact wicking better then a triple silica. Still perfect.
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This is a double wick? It looks like a single strand.
I have some of this at home but never fully tested it out. I may when I get home, depending on how long the DogFish Head lasts in the fridge
Cool, have you tried the cheese cloth to compare?...reason why I'm asking is if it's as good and it's as simple as reeling off a chunk and you're done, it may be worth getting some of this candle wick...
This is a double wick? It looks like a single strand.
I have some of this at home but never fully tested it out. I may when I get home, depending on how long the DogFish Head lasts in the fridge
There is a double strand in the cup only. It's on top of the whole piece that runs down both channels. It's a bit hard to see since it's on top of the other piece but it's there, you can see the cut ends inside the cup if you look closely.
I used to do 3 total strands of 3mm silica in the cup. One whole piece that went down the channels and 2 cut pieces on top of the whole piece inside the cup. The cotton just wicks way better so only 2 are necessary.
Cotton wick on top of cutoff original wick. This cotton wick has been in use for weeks and just has slight discoloration where it sits on the coil, no burn. Gets washed every three days.
Just curious....What's the purpose of doing this? I thought the whole idea was to get rid of the silica. Flavor on cotton wicks, imo, is superior to silica so why wouldn't you just pull the silica and replace it? I just got 2 new vivis and the first thing I did was pull the silica wicks out and thread a cotton wick into the coil.
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