Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

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First off, ya goin' in to business selling pre-made wicks? 800 yds? :lol:

Is that thick enough to use a single strand or are you using multiple strands? From the picture, it looks more thread-like than yarn-like.

LOL I have enough to last the rest of my life. It is actually yarn. I just cut a 1 inch peice of it, coil around it, and trim it short, and it seems to be made up of 3-4 smaller strands kinda twisted loosely.

Here's what a coil/wick setup looks like with it: IMG_0078.jpg
 
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Pictures help so much thank you.
LOL I have enough to last the rest of my life. It is actually yarn. I just cut a 1 inch peice of it, coil around it, and trim it short, and it seems to be made up of 3-4 smaller strands kinda twisted loosely.

Here's what a coil/wick setup looks like with it: View attachment 122971
 

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So True the Pix really do help. Have you tried the TACO fold that was much earlier in this thread? Just wondering....

LOL I have enough to last the rest of my life. It is actually yarn. I just cut a 1 inch peice of it, coil around it, and trim it short, and it seems to be made up of 3-4 smaller strands kinda twisted loosely.

Here's what a coil/wick setup looks like with it: View attachment 122971
 

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Ok Ed, I'll give it a shot.
From what I could see the wick you got should be alright. I can't say if anybody else has used it.
The weird taste could be from a dirty coil wire, joose or the cotton wick or some flavor transference from your fingers while handling the wick.I put joose on my wick before I even touch it.
After that the best help I can give you is to make sure your wick is saturated with joose and start out with the lowest voltage you possibly can.

Are you getting the carpet/rug taste? Does it go away after a while?

Thanks so much roadrash for the input and help and glad I got the right one. I just hope I can get this working good as then I'll finally be set with what to use and able to get the actual materials fairly easy enough.

Hard to explain taste, I guess it could be a carpet\rug taste, it's not disgusting, but different and subtle not overpowering as I still taste my juice and that's more dominant, kinda like something was added to give it a hint of something else. I've been mainly using Boge cartos and some SS Mesh on Genesis attys so I know the difference between the juice and the muted juices when using the cartos. I only vape one type of PG based China juice. I used it maybe an hour and it was a new coil and there were no burn marks afterwards but I did handle it with my hands before soaking but hands were washed.

Once I get my Penelope, I'll try again and report back in case anyone else might have the same experience.

I'm not sure ED, that's the one I'm using. I'm not getting weird taste or anything strange happening with it. I found no break in time at all in this wick and the flavor was spot on from the first time I fired the coil. I caught a hint of a burned taste when I drained my tank for the first time. I didn't realize it had used everything to the last drop lol. Pulled it apart, no burn marks on wick, refilled with juice and no burned taste.

I boiled mine for roughly 30 minutes to start and expected to see a bunch of stuff on top of the water. I did not see anything of note on top of the water after a 30 minute boil but I flushed the pot with cold water instead of pulling the wick out to make sure.

Thanks Ezkill, I mean there was flavor and it was good but just some subtle hint or taste of something else. Who knows, maybe it could have been the rubber insulator slightly burning but not enough to leave marks. Once I get my Penelope that should be the sure test since there won't be any chance of burning any rubber insulators.

I boiled mine for 20 minutes on a very high temp and a rapid consistent boil and I stirred it around making sure it all got exposure. I also did the same thing, when I was done I put the pot in the sink and ran cold water for quite a while leaving the wicking undisturbed and under the water and didn't really see anything on top of the water but maybe some smaller bubbles that eventually went away after rinsing. I continued to pour the top level of water out while the cold water was on there.


Again I want to thank you both for your replies and to everyone for all their input, I truly appreciate it.
 

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So True the Pix really do help. Have you tried the TACO fold that was much earlier in this thread? Just wondering....

Well, this is in a Mark-T, so the coil/wick pictured is pretty much the max size to fit inside it. Also, I literally just decided to try cotton a week ago. Silica always worked great for me and I'm frankly not worried about "potential health hazards". I was NOT a fan at first, but once I found a proper cotton that changed. The flavor difference truly is profound.

I just found the taco fold and am trying it now.

Oh btw the coil in that photo is 33ga Kanthal A. I know it seems strange, but I think it actually does make a better coil than the A-1.
 

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As far as the taco method, it does make it easier to swap wick, BUT due to the size constraints inside smaller rebuildables like the Mark-T, it is easier for me to just roll a normal coil. The best I could make it, still had the coil grounding against the body of the atomizer, since the coil wick goes to one side instead of the center.
 

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I made a couple of attempts on the taco coil, 'freehand'. Ended up with some weird pretzel/electrocuted-snake looking things :blink:


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Ya, but did it work? My first one I did the same and it works pretty good. I changed out the wicks this morning. Easy peasy.;)
 

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Background - I'm trying a variety of cotton wick materials on Echo Crystal Vision cartomizers on a VV mod.

SS Mesh Wraps for Cotton Wicks - I'm thinking I'm going to let this go. While there are some advangages to wrapping the wicks in the coil area, I'm having more coil difficulties. It seems with heating up and cooling down there is more opportunity for the protective treatment of the SS Mesh to fail. In short, I get more erratic Ohm readings and erratic performance. I still have about a dozen Cotton over Hemp wicks made up with SS Mesh cladding and don't know if I'll use them or get rid of the cladding.

Cotton-Hemp Candle Wick - The hemp inside definitly gives the wick some body. That may be of some help in winding coils. The performance is pretty good and it seems to wick well. I'm looking forward to giving them a try without the SS Mesh cladding.

Bamboo Yarn - Yesterday I tried six strands of the somewhat smallish Bamboo Yarn. Taste is good. It wasn't long before I began experiencing dry hits. Today I swapped that wick out for a twelve strand version. Additionally, I cut all the loops at the ends. It was a lot to fit into the ECVs, but it did go in okay. As well, it was hard to get the juice in at first...haven't tried a refil yet. The taste remains good, perhaps as good as any device or wick I've used. The hit and vapor are like, "Holy Vapes!" ...works well. It's way too early to have any thought of how well it will hold up.

#2 Square Braided Cotton Candle Wick - ...arrived today. With it's squarish corners, I was hoping that wire would grab it a little better and not be as prone to movement. It seems to do that okay. I know some like their coils loose, but I haven't mastered that as of yet per divertning to the SS mesh clad experimentation. It hits well and delivers great flavor. The #2 seems a bit small, #1 might be considered. I'd guess that #1 might be about 1.4 times the size of #2, but really know know much about wick guages. Again, this is initial use and the long term is unknown. I'll probably attempt a double wick of the #2 in the not too distant future.

In the case of the last two above, it seems their performance is better than others I have previously tried. Both hit well and deliver good taste. Though I'm using a different juice in each, I'm guessing their performance is approximately equal. Perhaps at some point I'll set up 3 or 4 clearomizers with the same juice, similar coils and give them a good A/B/C/D testing.

Still yet to try - Oil Lamp Wick which I don't presently have. There may be other cotton variants.
 

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Cool Breeze,

The #1/0 square braided candle wick, which is larger then the #1 is a perfect fit for the channels on the vivi nova. I'm not sure what you are rebuilding I'm just using the nova for size reference as it's a pretty common device that a lot of people have. The #1/0 is roughly the same size as the 3mm silica wick that comes with the GG devices. While slightly slimmer dry it's slightly large then the 3mm silica wet.

I had a heck of a time finding information on wick sizes related to mm. It wasn't something that google would help me with and it was rather irritating. I guessed at the size I needed for the golden greek items because I knew then channels were roughly the same size as a vivi nova and I saw a video of someone using #1/0 wick rewicking a vivi nova.

Edit: Sorry Cool. I'm blind... I see what you are re-wicking in the background section of your post. Reading comprehension malfunction.
 
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OK, so I am sold on bamboo yarn. Came to this forum to find some ceramic wick, ended up in here. Were can I find some organic 100% bamboo yarn? I have looked around but I'm finding colors, and some made with other materials added in, not sure if they are safe.

Ebay yielded some results, but I think I might be over paying and no word on if they are 100% bamboo yarn.
 

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OK, so I am sold on bamboo yarn. Came to this forum to find some ceramic wick, ended up in here. Were can I find some organic 100% bamboo yarn? I have looked around but I'm finding colors, and some made with other materials added in, not sure if they are safe.

Ebay yielded some results, but I think I might be over paying and no word on if they are 100% bamboo yarn.

My wife picked me up some at Michael's craft store. Aunt Lydias #10 crotchet thread all natural. 300yards for $2.99:)
 

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just bought a smoktech rebuildable . would like to try my hand at making it like a gen. any suggestions?.....vince

I looked at the smoktech rebuildable a while ago. You can try to use wire mesh I suppose but I think it could be a waste of time. A huge part of real genesis atomizers is how they draw in air. They take air in from the top through an air hole right behind the wick. The way the air moves in the top cap is also extremely important in a genesis style.

I have no idea where the smoktech takes in air. Will it be like a Genesis? No it will be like a smoktech with a metal wick.

That being said some people have done it:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...moktech-vivi-tank-rebuildable-atomizer-7.html
 
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