Will nicotine be banned?

[breno]

On June 11, 2009, the U.S. Senate voted 79 to 17 to approve the bill, H.R. 1256/S. 982, known as the Family Smoking Prevention and tobacco Control Act.

"4. Allow FDA to require changes to tobacco products to protect the public health – FDA will have authority to require changes in current and future tobacco products, such as the reduction or elimination of harmful ingredients, additives and constituents, if it decided that these changes will protect public health. FDA will be granted authority to change nicotine yields; Congress will maintain the authority to ban nicotine completely."

So congress has the power and micotine users are a minority. it's just a question of which political party want the votes most.

Candidate 1 : "I will ban niotine"
Candidate 2 : "Not only will I ban nicotine I wil have esisting user flogged"


Cheering whooping and hollering from the assembled masses

 

[happily]

they are not allowed to ban nicotine only regulate it( that is what the bill says)

 

[hobbes4]

If they put some BS sin tax on nicotine i am moving to another country.

 

[jexmex]

Yup, but they have the ability to regulate it to anything, except zero. From the discussion I heard on NPR a month or two back, they were saying that it would be counter productive for them to regulate it down to low.

They also said during that show that researchers have noticed a increase in the amount of nicotine in cigarettes in recent years.

 

[breno]

they are not allowed to ban nicotine only regulate it( that is what the bill says)

Well if you read the bill, which I indeed quoted, that is not what it say what it says, and I quote "Congress will maintain the authority to ban nicotine completely."

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0352.pdf

 

[breno]

If they put some BS sin tax on nicotine i am moving to another country.

Well you may not have to move, I am in the UK and taxes on tobacco are significntly higher here tha most places, to such and extend that there is thriving black market in 'bootleg' tobbaco, hence I pay no (UK) tax on my tobacco and have not done so for about 10 years thus 'robbing' the UK taxman of about £10,000

Actualy, if I switch to vaping it may actually be more expensive for me!!
I am trying to do the sums but it hard to do as I don't know how much liquid, batteries and various other apperatus I will require.

Also I am paying my 'supplier' twice what they get it for, if I brought the stuff in myself (which I could) I would save even more, but it is too much hassle.

 

[breno]

Yup, but they have the ability to regulate it to anything, except zero. From the discussion I heard on NPR a month or two back, they were saying that it would be counter productive for them to regulate it down to low.

They also said during that show that researchers have noticed a increase in the amount of nicotine in cigarettes in recent years.

Obiously the higher the nicotine content the less of the other poisons you have to smoke to get your fix.
So reducing nicotine content would make smoking more not less dangerous.

 

[DaMulta]

If they do that then a lot of products will be pulled. Pizza, Ketchup, potatoes, french fries, tomatoes, peppers, which should include hot sauce also.


What if Nicotine was pulled from Tomatoes instead of Tobacco? I wonder how the public would feel about that news cast lol.....

 

[four2109]

If they do that then a lot of products will be pulled. Pizza, Ketchup, potatoes, french fries, tomatoes, peppers, which should include hot sauce also.
What if Nicotine was pulled from Tomatoes instead of Tobacco? I wonder how the public would feel about that news cast lol.....

??? Can you explain/clarify this post? Or are you just spouting BS.

 

[DaMulta]

??? Can you explain/clarify this post? Or are you just spouting BS.

Nicotine is found in other things BESIDES tobacco.

 

[happily]

Well if you read the bill, which I indeed quoted, that is not what it say what it says, and I quote "Congress will maintain the authority to ban nicotine completely."

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0352.pdf

which means no one can ban it without writing a bill and going from there. The whole legal process

 

[happily]

Yup, but they have the ability to regulate it to anything, except zero. From the discussion I heard on NPR a month or two back, they were saying that it would be counter productive for them to regulate it down to low.

They also said during that show that researchers have noticed a increase in the amount of nicotine in cigarettes in recent years.

what actually happens is lowering nicotine makes you smoke more ...............big pharma(patches, gums etc.) will never allow a nicotine ban

 

[Enigma32]

If they put some BS sin tax on nicotine i am moving to another country.

They already did. I was wondering after the fed tax increase, and my states tax increase, cigarettes had suddenly gone up yet again with no reports of a tax increase again... It was this bill, the FDA's oversight of all tobacco products is to be funded by those tobacco products. Even pure nicotine would be classified as a derivitave of tobacco making it a tobacco product.

It gets better. They were only required $85million this year. Next year they have to pay in $235million. the next, $450million. With absolutely no new taxes implemented we will still see all tobacco prices skyrocket further.

‘(1) AMOUNT OF ASSESSMENT- The total amount of user fees authorized to be assessed and collected under subsection (a) for a fiscal year is the following, as applicable to the fiscal year involved:

‘(A) For fiscal year 2009, $85,000,000 (subject to subsection (e)).


‘(B) For fiscal year 2010, $235,000,000.


‘(C) For fiscal year 2011, $450,000,000.

 

[JohnnyVapor]

If they do that then a lot of products will be pulled. Pizza, Ketchup, potatoes, french fries, tomatoes, peppers, which should include hot sauce also.

What if Nicotine was pulled from Tomatoes instead of Tobacco? I wonder how the public would feel about that news cast lol.....

??? Can you explain/clarify this post? Or are you just spouting BS.

For more information, check pages like these:
Nicotine in Vegetables- The Arthritis Nightshades Research Foundation
The nicotine contents of vegetables

 

[RiskyBusiness]

Nicotine will never be banned... only clean ways of acquiring nicotine via inhalation will be banned (if not approved by Big Pharma).