Will The FDA Ban E-Liquids?

[hlk]

I'm so angry about what the FDA is doing right now.. This industry has exploded and and it's seems crazy that we will deal with regulations or an all out ban on e-liquid.. It's hard to imagine all the companies out there employing people, making a living and paying taxes are going to be shut down. I'm trying to make sense of it all.. What is the consensus of the suppliers.. Will you guys survive?

I'm hoping that this industry can somehow comply with some regulations, not a total ban.
Just checking the pulse here.. this is a huge business and I think there has to be plenty of very worried suppliers out there. Not to mention all of us vapers..
Please let me hear something positive, what is the real chance of a ban?

 

[Orobas]

They can take my RY4 when they pry it from my COLD, DEAD HANDS.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Remote. The chance to snuff the industry out was a few years ago. Luckily CASAA, a well made argument, and ironic protections of the tobacco settlement act conspired to stop them and time is on the side of the vapers. Our ranks swell, we are better organized than ever. Has everyone sent their letter to the FDA? Only a few days left! The instructions on the link are very good. Follow them and you will have no trouble.

Support CASAA. They are our best defense.

 

[ridethespiral]

If it was banned, I'm sure there would be websites selling it under the radar/low key. Vendors aren't supposed to be selling nic juice here in Canada yet they still do, and I don't think that will stop

Obviously there's more to it but I'm still researching!

Vape on!

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[Dac311]

There are big tobacco players already involved. This will not be shut down, but regulations are well on their way.

 

[lmorris]

I see no BAN in the future ... but ... I do see "Regulations" being written in the backrooms of the of the lawmakers.

I think the threshold has been crossed where there is Money to be made in regulating and TAXING.

 

[mrfixit]

We need to all come together vappers or consumers, vendors and suppliers alike. It will take money to fight this thing unfortunately and really that's what it boils down to money. Big money makers like tobacco and pharma stand to loose significant profits from our industry. I truly believe that the FDA is in bed with them on this and cannot be subjective on the matter. In other words they're being told what to do here. By all means send your email or message on the site so we can be heard at the hearing. In the mean time always do your vapping with respect to others and educate non Vapers on what vapping really is rather than what the media has portrayed it as. Praying might help too at least it can't hurt right? We will prevail if we stand strong and fight for or right ti choose what's best for us medically ectra and so on. I read a post the other day on a medical blog from the UK that the poster was trying to get people to believe that while in the presence of the vapor being expelled in his direction made him feel dizzy nauseated not right. When I saw that I was like are you kidding me? It was obviously someone with an agenda but still. Stay strong don't loose hope.

 

[cocacola31173]

I hope it doesn't come to taxes. My reg brand was Marlboro Special Blends and I looked at the price they are now and they have jumped 50 cents a pack since the 2 months I have quit. I just now got my setup I want and only spend like 60 bucks a month compared to the 150 I was spending before and plus I feel so much better. Gotta love our freedom!

 

[KraKsX]

im pretty sure the ecig 'blu' is owned by big tobacco

this tells me ecigs are here to stay!

 

[tA71ana]

I don't think that they will ban e liq, and if they did it would not be wise.
Firstly, as many of us know, MANY businesses have sprung up as a result of vaping, and millions would be lost if a ban were to go into effect.
Secondly, If for instance the FDA banned all makers of e-liq except for the tobacco companies that have ecig subsidiaries then many vapers not only would not buy knowing that the field was intentionally rigged up, there would be suspicions about adulterants contained within the e-lq that said tobacco companies produced.
Then there is the issue of HUMAN NATURE.
If the FDA were to ban e-liq, they run the very distinct risk that people will start making their own out of ingredients that may not be appropriate for vaping because they would be unable to get the proper ingredients that can be had presently....much like what happened during Prohibition when folks were mixing up all manner of concoctions and calling it alcohol. This could have potentially deleterious effects on the health of the user and quite possibly others, which is contrary to what the FDA mission is supposed to be about.
Lastly, the authorities run the risk of opening up a whole can of worms through unintentionally CREATING criminal enterprises (where there were none before) that would be happy to supply folks with nicotine juice which may or may not be harmful.

Times change, technology changes, the world changes, but Human Nature remains the same.
If they are expecting any different result than what happened during the Prohibition of alcohol, they will be terribly disappointed.

 

[mikejm]

I say we bribe them and if that don't work we blackmail them.

 

[Aday]

I may be missing something, I am not educated in this field. As dangerous as it may be it seems pretty easy to extract nicotine from tobacco. How can they really ban or regulate something as easy to obtain and expect it to stick short of banning tobacco altogether. I don't know how much nicotine can be extracted from a bag of say pipe tobacco but if its enough to put together a 60 mil bottle of vapeable juice it would come to about what I pay for my premade stuff.

 

[tA71ana]

I say we bribe them and if that don't work we blackmail them.

LOLOLOL
That'll work

 

[mimirichard]

Blu is owned by Lorillard. Just found that out from a friend who works for Lorillard the other day.

 

[*deleon517*]

I dont see a ban on liquids happening. but regulations is a good things, any vaper that has been around long enough can tell you this... there was one company who's nic was severely mislabeled and was sending out nic in levels that are considered dangerous and/or deadly. regulations will play a big part in making sure things like that shouldnt happen again. Im not gonna put the name of this company out their, but im sure a quick search will tell those who dont know who they are their name. what was even worst then that is when it was announced rather then pulling the stock and caring about people's safety, they decided to run a blow out sale.

as a diy'er im not worried about any taxing as im well stocked for the next year or so. but I will be placing an order in the next few weeks for another years worth of supplies and 18650's to keep as spares.

 

[Dana A]

I wouldn't mind some regulation but a limit on how high the mgs of nic is my biggest worry as well as only being able to get prefilled cartos. Do they tax NRTs like they do cigs now? I am just wondering. I don't have a problem being taxed but I don't think we should be taxed as high as analogs. That's just wrong!

 

[Dana A]

I think to myself at least once a day how much I hate the government. I am not a hateful person but I am just so sick of the government trying to protect me from myself.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to General E-Liquid Discussion

 

[jimmyh]

If they do tax us, they can only tax juice that has nic in it. If you want to avoid the insane tax, stock up on nic now and add to your juice. Government has gotten to big. If they tried an all out ban, you'll have a black market on e-juice.

 

[Hello World]

I'm so angry about what the FDA is doing right now.. This industry has exploded and and it's seems crazy that we will deal with regulations or an all out ban on e-liquid.. It's hard to imagine all the companies out there employing people, making a living and paying taxes are going to be shut down. I'm trying to make sense of it all.. What is the consensus of the suppliers.. Will you guys survive?

I'm hoping that this industry can somehow comply with some regulations, not a total ban.
Just checking the pulse here.. this is a huge business and I think there has to be plenty of very worried suppliers out there. Not to mention all of us vapers..
Please let me hear something positive, what is the real chance of a ban?

The e-liquid supply routes & hardware cannot be cut off. They can't even keep hard drugs out, and vapers are not exactly the No. 1 target in their scope. I can go down to skid row (so help me God ... lol) and in less than 1 hour obtain coke, her**n, Tylenol 5s, Prozac, pure nicotine and Reserve Cigarettes. Even 'fallen from grace' docs will issue any prescription for a few bucks. And as long as many countries such as China produce these products, the show will simply go on. They've already done it in Canada and Australia and still more people come knocking. It's a losing battle if they ban it. Bans/laws/regulations will be ignored when someone really wants something.

Five people have seen me vaping, some inquire, 2 are now getting their own setups, and 5 other people will see them vaping ... the story goes on. It cannot be stopped ... and you cannot make nic vaping technology go away either. Prohibition failed, and so will e-bans.

I'm inclined to believe that legislators are trying to find a middle ground between tobacco, pharma and consumer acts. The public is well aware of the private vested interests of the 2 aforementioned, the Gov't not completely blind to it either.