Wire Rope for Wick?

[pdib]

LOL, I am being dense. I should have got that. Thank you for straightening me out.

you weren't being dense, you were thinking about a problem, and I was being . . . . . . . . . silly.

 

[dude75951]

silly but funny now i keep hearing john lennon singing ja guru devra Ohms and the beetles setting around an e-hookah. has anybody had to clean theres out cause of gunking? ive put several tanks through and no gunking even on coils yet. i pulled the straight strand out of my 3/32 so it would fit n my DID clone. vaped great but the bottom was splaying out so i drilled the DiD out and replaced the center. now i have to leave the fill screw out or i get dry hits.to me much better than just mesh still. kudos shortyjacobs. im loving this

 

[davros]

I have been using a wire rope wick in one my aga-t's for a couple of weeks now. It wicks well and is low maintenance. I currently have several types of wicks setup in various genny's: mesh, ceramic and mesh hybrid. I find myself using the wire rope wick the most.

 

[mikepetro]

I guess this is where I step in and finally announce to the world my all reaching, grand business plan. I am in the process of starting a company manufacturing hydrophilic composite wicks. The ceramic slurry idea isn't far off from what I am in the process of making. I still don't have the prototype in my hands, but I have contacted a molecular and chemical engineer in academia that created a coating for exactly this purpose for nasa. I have sent him 3 different material types to coat: 500 SS mesh, 7x7 wire rope, and a plain SS rod. I didn't even think about the screw which I find genius. The material that will be coating all 3 samples has the following properties:
1) Non Conductive!
2) Highly durable - Will not crack, peel, or wear. It's flexible. It can withstand temperatures up to 1000C without degrading.
3) Non Toxic - Will not release any harmful chemicals, was actively used to block hexachromium.
4) Tasteless - will not impart a taste to your juice
5) Has the potential to wick faster than SS rope - coating is naturally super hydrophilic with a contact angle of less than 5 degrees. This is what needs to be tested, and what I'm waiting on the sample for.

It has a very very high potential to be the next big thing for RBAs. I also have some ideas on how to incorporate it into dripping attys by pre bending the SS rods/screws.

Now if you go back and view all my posts in this thread you will see that I was a complete and utter beginner. However, thanks to all the contributors to this thread and doing a whole lot of research I think this will be huge. The process is not easy and the equipment to do it is not cheap. The wicks that I will be manufacturing will not be cheap (cost to end user of about an Aga). I will not be selling the product directly to individuals, only to retailers. I have a day job that I won't be ignoring and I have absolutely no sales experience. Once I get rolling I will be sending samples to retailers and reviewers (the hill giant, phil busardo, Scott Bonner, and others).

Are you talking about a process along these lines?

 

[mikepetro]

I have been using a wire rope wick in one my aga-t's for a couple of weeks now. It wicks well and is low maintenance. I currently have several types of wicks setup in various genny's: mesh, ceramic and mesh hybrid. I find myself using the wire rope wick the most.

Yes, same here. What I love about the SS wire rope is the simplicity of building it, plus it works good, and looks good sitting in a clear tank. Lately I have not been oxidizing the rope at all, just washing it and then only oxidizing the mesh I put at the top. The shiny rope looks cool in the tank, and doesnt color the juice as much. My current experimentation is with how much mesh I use. Less mesh seems to equal more throat hit, which I like, more mesh is a cooler smoother vape and less heat transfer to the RBA deck it seems.

 

[ClippinWings]

Anyone tried the SS rope on an RSST yet?

Seems to me it would be the simplest setup possible... no need to oxidize, or even wrap the rope in SS mesh... due to the insulated wick hole.

 

[mikepetro]

Anyone tried the SS rope on an RSST yet?

Seems to me it would be the simplest setup possible... no need to oxidize, or even wrap the rope in SS mesh... due to the insulated wick hole.

Yes, I used 3/32nd rope with a few wraps of mesh. Tried 1/8" rope first, it fit but I didnt like the heatsink effect of it.

The insulated hole in the deck only solves one possible source of shorting, you still need some oxidation on the surface of the wick or the coils themselves short out to each other through the wick.

 

[ClippinWings]

Yes, I used 3/32nd rope with a few wraps of mesh. Tried 1/8" rope first, it fit but I didnt like the heatsink effect of it.

The insulated hole in the deck only solves one possible source of shorting, you still need some oxidation on the surface of the wick or the coils themselves short out to each other through the wick.

Ah, yes, good to know, thanks.

 

[Jakersvape]

I'm using a 3/32 wire rope in my aga-t2, I wrapped the top portion of the rope with about 2 layers of mesh. I did a 5 wrap coil with 30ga kanthal. I'm having a really hard time getting rid of hot spots, and only the top 2 coils seem to really glow. Any ideas? I don't know if part of it has to do with the mesh not staying wrapped tight around the rope? I don't know how you would get it to stay tight around it though.

 

[silentnights]

Are you talking about a process along these lines?

Nope, that isn't the process my scientist will be using. I didn't go that route, or even know about it. I haven't the foggiest if that would work or not. It does mention that the resistance maintains acceptable levels at 400C which hopefully no one is vaping above. That is very interesting though, thank you.

 

[Brozilla]

Ive been hearing mixed answers/opinions. So whats better 7x7 or 7x19?

 

[lagittaja]

Received some SS 316 7x19 3mm OD today from china.
Info didn't say anything about galvanized or not, was so cheap so figured eh why not.
Didn't see any reaction when heated it up, nor with salt water.
And it in my eyes it shines like SS should.
And anyways, if it would be galvanized wouldn't it be sold as "galvanized steel wire rope" and not "stainless steel wire rope"
I'll take it with me to the hardware store tomorrow (gonna buy cutter) and ask them if they could tell Or I'll just buy a meter of ungalvanized from there.

 

[Section1]

Let us know how it works for you.

Received some SS 316 7x19 3mm OD today from china.
Info didn't say anything about galvanized or not, was so cheap so figured eh why not.
Didn't see any reaction when heated it up, nor with salt water.
And it in my eyes it shines like SS should.
And anyways, if it would be galvanized wouldn't it be sold as "galvanized steel wire rope" and not "stainless steel wire rope"
I'll take it with me to the hardware store tomorrow (gonna buy cutter) and ask them if they could tell Or I'll just buy a meter of ungalvanized from there.

 

[silentnights]

Try sticking a magnet on it. If it holds strongly, then it is galvanized. SS should be very weakly attracted to a magnet.

 

[BikerBob]

Try sticking a magnet on it. If it holds strongly, then it is galvanized. SS should be very weakly attracted to a magnet.

Some SS is slightly magnetic, some other SS is quite magnetic, and some other SS is non-magnetic. I've tried a magnet on 316 SS, and would call it non-magnetic--not even the strongest rare-earth magnets I have would stick to it.

 

[silentnights]

Hence the very weakly Either it will barely stick or won't stick at all with SS unless it was improperly tempered (from what I understand). Galvanized will always be very attracted to a magnet.

 

[lagittaja]

mmyeah it's galvanized. Grabbed a magnet and it's rather attracted to it, wasn't a rare earth magnet, a simple fridge magnet maybe 5x25mm. Didn't really stick to my Smoktech Natural, Kanger Protank, AGA-t2+ topcap, mmvapors did drip tip but it really stick to my DID metal tank tube.
I'll rather not risk it. Going to Seinäjoki tomorrow anyway to pick up my phone from the repairshop so I'll visit a hardware store to see if they have some ungalvanized.. Might as well pick some new drill bits and a new multi chuck to my dremel, been planning to do some modding to the AGA..

 

[silentnights]

Lagittaja, I think your best bet would be to hit up a marine supply store. Salt water doesn't play well with most metals, so they tend to use SS for a lot of stuff. And there is a whole lot of rigging and mooring used on boats that are made from SS rope.

 

[Satava]

I did find some pure 316 stainless 7x7 in a hardware store (Mom and Pops kinda place) but it was way too big at 1/4 inch. I'd hate to order 10 feet of the stuff just to find out it doesn't work well for me, plus I don't have a dremel to cut it down, I'd be using bolt cutters hah.

Anyone in this thread have some scraps they'd be willing to send?

 

[harmonic]

Unless they changed the rules mcmaster-carr will sell you whatever length you want regardless of what is says on the product description page. Shipping is usually ~4 bucks but they wont tell you that up front. I got a couple of feet of the smaller 2 sizes and no questions asked lol...