I hear ya, and in Randy's defence, he did apologize somewhere on his thread. I feel I should have mentioned that as well. 
Wizard Labs is still down!! Any other suggestions?
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I hear ya, and in Randy's defence, he did apologize somewhere on his thread. I feel I should have mentioned that as well.
Im glad you did. Who knows what problems he has, whether personal or business?
Why should we close the thread? Ten days after order many of us who ordered immediately when they opened have not even got shipping notice. Think this is something potential shoppers may want to know--the backup is major.
I ordered at 7am on Feb 6 .. 500ml of 100mg Ice .. havent received it yet, havent gotten a shipping notice. I've been ordering the Ice for 6 months and it has always taken longer to ship than the regular nic except for one time it did get shipped a few days after I ordered .. but when I ordered some in December it took over 2 weeks for that Ice to ship. I've had to learn that "good things come to those who wait" when it comes to Ice LOL.
I called the Wizard just now they are working weekends to get this caught up. For the ICE orders, they tend to do those in one day or in groups and bunches of orders because there is a different process to it---just giving a heads up. They said my order will go out middle of next week.
John called me once about the Ice and said that he keeps it in a special container under some sort of chemical process and he only opens it when there's lots of orders to fill because of some sort of procedure he has to go thru when he opens it. If you happen to order just before he opens it then you get your order fast .. but if he's opened it recently before you order then it could be a while until he opens it again. I've never cared how long it takes because it is worth the wait to me.
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I keep seeing mentions of "ICE" what flavour is that. I ordered some minty flavours in this last order: the Koolada, the peppermint and some spearmint. I just searched again and cant find the ICE, is it a minty cool extract?
Just for comparison and maybe to point to the the amount of stock they had on hand when they "opened back up". I ordered mine arounf 10:30pm on the 5th, got a shipping notice at 1:50pm on the 6th, and received my order on the 9th in San Diego.
25 flavors, and 250ml each of PG, VG and Nic.
My assumption from following this thread is that they only shipped what they already had mixed prior to the move, and new mixing had to wait on re-certification of their lab.
And no, I'm not bragging and throwing it in everyone's face. I feel bad for y'all and would share if I could.
I've compared them .. to me they are nearly identical. I dont know the origin of the ICE but I do know that the Ultra is made in India.
Ice is the nickname for one of the extra high purity nic bases that WL has in testing (for forever). The Ice nic has been refined a little more to reduce trace minor alkaloids like myosamine. Ultra Pure is basically the same from another source (India - not sure where Ice is from). Ice can be requested in the order comments but you may have to wait longer for it. I really wish they'd just list it on their site - I hate telling people to place an order, put "ICE Please" in the comments, and then hope they get it. Who knows when it'll finally run out? Anyway...
I was unable to tell a difference in performance/taste, but I repeatedly had an "acidy stomach" from 30mg Pure that I didn't get from 30mg Ice.
Thanks Wolcen. That's good to know. My Wife said the Ice burned her throat. She also vapes 30 mg. I highly doubt that it was the nic. I believe that it was the flavoring coming through more so than all the nic bases that I have. I've cut my flavorings down on my mixes lately using the Ice. I also get a pretty good TH from it.
I don't normally vape at 30mg - I did that for testing because I could finally detect the taste a little at that level (same for both). I ended up testing a little too much and stomach discomfort isn't uncommon when you do that. For me, the Ultra Pure was actually fine at my normal level, but I still stick with Ice.
I normally am pretty satisfied at right around 20mg.
Now if we can get my Wife to ween down. I've tried everything ! LOL
Thank you all for the clarification. I thought I had missed something or it was a "special" flavour not listed. I have an order that looks like it might be here tomorrow. I ordered some flavours: Koolada, peppermint and spearmint. I was wanting to have another basic DIY on hand other than my basic light orange/ clove. I mostly use bought tobaccos from the Plume Room, but like have a basic flavour around that is light to sort of cleanse the buds. These minty flavours I ordered were to break it up, plus I saw a thread where someone was asking if anyone had suggestions on DIY to get something that tasted like Altoids. They suggested the peppermint and the koolada combo. Cant wait to start "mixing " it up.
I taste tested Regular, Ice and Pure at 30mg. The Regular had the slightest taste but the other 2 had none. Regular had a slight color
About 30ml base 60mg nic left! 
I'm trying to hold out for WL's re-stock but man I'm hurting.. Have an order @ RTS ready but will give another day..
Have never tried RTS Nic but based on those in this thread having great success I may just opt for it and grab a nice 500ml of 100mg and have enough for awhile, lol
I'm trying to hold out for WL's re-stock but man I'm hurting.. Have an order @ RTS ready but will give another day..
Have never tried RTS Nic but based on those in this thread having great success I may just opt for it and grab a nice 500ml of 100mg and have enough for awhile, lol
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