Woman severely burned in e-cigarette explosion (it was a mech mod)
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You are right. I've been rebuilding since last May but only using regulated mods. I'm okay at making and mounting coils but no experience with mechs. The video interview with the woman is so useless. If she was asked to provide useful details and those were edited out. I believe she was usiing something like this. $14.74 Tugboat Styled 18650 Mechanical Mod w/ RDA Atomizer - aluminum alloy + stainless steel / fuchsia at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
ah. So not only do mechanical PV users have to know what they are doing and be experienced, BUT they also have to be able to say things *properly* ---- (even after the total mental/emotional shock of having an incident like this happen to them.....loosing teeth, 2nd degree burns, bruised, etc. )
I knew there would be some way to make this person into an utter idiot.
ah. So not only do mechanical PV users have to know what they are doing and be experienced, BUT they also have to be able to say things *properly* ---- (even after the total mental/emotional shock of having an incident like this happen to them.....loosing teeth, 2nd degree burns, bruised, etc. )
I knew there would be some way to make this person into an utter idiot.
I agree with the OP. "I checked the ohms" is indicitive of a lack of understanding as to how the SHORT took place. Infering the user is a 'total idiot" is subjective.
She made a mistake. After the incident she still did not know what her mistake was. The devices we use are simple to us. We understand the devices. I would venture to say that well over 50% of PV users do not really understand the mechanics of their devices.
Does that make them total idiots? Probably not.
"Disoriented and covered in blood and soot, she ran inside, shouting for her friends to call 911. By the time they went back outside to drive her to the hospital, Koziol's Hyundai rental car was fully engulfed in flames."
The cause seems obvious-- the Hyundai exploded.
The cause seems obvious-- the Hyundai exploded.
As strange as it sounds Something in the car exploded,not the e-cig whatever
type it was. Look at the hood and rear. That car is completely torched. An interior fire
would not get into the engine compartment unless the car was burning for a very
long time in the right conditions. The smoke from the plastic and upholstery would
tend to limit the flames in an enclosed space.
Just noticed in the first link in post 21. The car is sitting on a pile of leaves.
Did the exhaust start the leaves on fire?
I can't put my finger on it but,something is not right.
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Mike
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Judging by her injuries I'll accept that a battery bursting it's case is what hit her. I've watched some youtube video of intentional venting. If you tossed a firing blow torch into a car and left it going that would accelerate the progress of a fire. Tube shaped mech mods have two issues. The absense of protection circuits and far too little venting. A box shaped mech can easily incorporate venting but now that you've created all that extra space why not add some protect circuits? And kicks are available for tube mods with protective electronics but people won't use them. If her mod had vented as it should she might have some burns but she'd have all her teeth. With less injuries she might have had the presence of mind to get the mod out of the car and prevent that loss.
This car is sitting on a pile of leaves.
I am not buying it. The exhaust caught the leaves on fire causing electrical failure
that shorted something in the car. Look at the car. A fire started in the passenger compartment
would have not spread like that in the time stated. It takes time to burn through
the firewall to the engine and back through the trunk. Then down through the floor board.
Some things is not right.
I have seen any pictures of batteries that have vented on floors and counter tops.
Remember the bed that a vented battery started on fire? A lot of scorching and burn marks
for sure but no conflagrations. There have been many posts from people leaving their
batteries charging in their vehicles and I do not recall one where the whole car went
up.
A venting battery is not a lit road flare. There is something not right here.
Regards
Mike
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As he pointed out as 'another mishap' in his post above the link :- ) Which we also have a thread on the 'other' Naples Fl incident.
Exactly right 'checking the ohms' is rather insignificant about what can go wrong with a hybrid. Any amount of ohms is going to meltdown with an improper connection.
Someone - Puddlecoat, Siegel, Conley (probably the best source) Sullum at Reason (or all of them) should put out a press release to all available news sources Reuters, FDA and ABCNBCCBSCNNFOXNYTWAPO- a tutorial on hybrid mods - why people think that they are better than other choices, how they work, how they can cause a meltdown vs. how other mods and ecigarettes don't have the same attributes, etc. List each brand and clone sold, etc. So that the media can understand and perhaps have a few shows on why not to use hybrids..... and so when stories like this come up, they know what to ask and know what really happened. Ask the 'victim' if they know the difference, did you check the connection each time you use it? etc. etc. etc.
And herein lies the problem...
I don't even know what that means, but at least I have a slight clue thanks to this forum.
And to the average human being, that's nothing but words and gobbledygook.
I don't even know what that means, but at least I have a slight clue thanks to this forum.
And to the average human being, that's nothing but words and gobbledygook.
I admit I found it fishy as well that a venting battery could set the entire on fire.
I also wondered why it was parked in the middle of the front yard. I wouldn't like it much if my guests just drove up into my yard instead of the driveway.
I also wondered why it was parked in the middle of the front yard. I wouldn't like it much if my guests just drove up into my yard instead of the driveway.
tugboat styled 18650 mechanical mod:
$14.31 Tugboat Style 18650 Mechanical Mod - copper / fuchsia at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
If that's what she was using, chances are it was shortout on the top of the battery.
$14.31 Tugboat Style 18650 Mechanical Mod - copper / fuchsia at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
If that's what she was using, chances are it was shortout on the top of the battery.
The fact that she's a three year vaping veteran who immediately jumped on the lawsuit bandwagon tells me she's not very well informed on the issues that vaping faces which also has me assuming she's not well informed on other vaping topics either, products/batteries etc. If she's that ready to throw vaping under the bus she's not an informed vaper or even a responsible vaper.
This is my opinion and I know I could be very far off the mark but that is what I am choosing to believe about this person at this time.
This is my opinion and I know I could be very far off the mark but that is what I am choosing to believe about this person at this time.
Also, she would know that a lawsuit against the manufacturer of Chinese vape products is a no go, if she is an informed vapor that is.
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