Would you go back to smoking if liquid costed more than cigarettes?
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I also would head for the DIY forum and figure out how to make my own juice. Really, I think they could only tax juice that contained nicotine, so you could just buy the nicotine before taxation is the rule and buy 0 nicotine juices if your DIY efforts didn't produce anything you wanted to vape. I may start stockpiling a few "backups," just in case. But I am thankful for my Provari because no way they are going to tax batteries. I never, ever want to smoke another cigarette again...NEVER!
No. Never. As much as I say I "love" my nicotine and don't intentionally reduce my nic strength, I do find myself every couple of months reducing the nic level of my liquid. I started at 18 and 24, quickly switched to 12mg, down to 6 now. Even at that level (I DIY unflavored stuff, easy way to do it), I find myself diluting my 12 and 6mg retail liquids to around the 6 and 3mg levels. I didn't "mean" to do this, my body just wants and requires less nicotine.
Even though something stupid happen, and a 15ml bottle of juice is taxed to, say, cost $30 or more, I'll likely just do what I already do. Buy it at a nic level above my needs and dilute it with VG (YMMV--I don't need a strong flavor nor a lot of nicotine). Or just make/buy zero nic stuff and "spike" it with a splash of nic when I want it. That will make my freezer nic stash last a decade or more. It'll go "bad" before I finish it, probably.
Even though something stupid happen, and a 15ml bottle of juice is taxed to, say, cost $30 or more, I'll likely just do what I already do. Buy it at a nic level above my needs and dilute it with VG (YMMV--I don't need a strong flavor nor a lot of nicotine). Or just make/buy zero nic stuff and "spike" it with a splash of nic when I want it. That will make my freezer nic stash last a decade or more. It'll go "bad" before I finish it, probably.
Where do you buy juice?? I vape about 15 ml a week at a cost of $7-$10 if I buy at a vape shop. A weeks worth of smokes used to cost me $50. Even if the cost of juice tripled, I would still come out ahead.
I had one of those a couple weeks back. I was so PO'ed at myself until I woke up and realized it was just a BAD dream. Whew!!
I was comparing 1 to 1. One pack of cigs to one bottle of juice. Cigs = $5/pack. Juice = 5 a bottle (10ml at my B&M)
I'd have a go at diy and if I made a complete hash of that then vaping mrs chunkystans floral breeze airfreshner would become reality!
I only spent about $65/month on cigs so that would have to be pretty expensive juice for me to go back. I only go through 40ml now so I don't ever foresee that happening unless they charge $2/ml. If they did I'd just go 0nic diy and be done with it.
Nope, not ever going back to smoking cigarettes. I haven't purchased e-liquid in over a year now. I only DIY. My nicotine use is by choice these days not by addiction. Based on my limited usage I have enough nic in my freezer to last a very long time. If the cost of purchasing nic was extremely high or near-impossible to obtain I would simply use up what I had and then vape only 0 mg juice.
The problem is, what's the equivalent to a pack of cigarettes? You have the tobacco companies selling cigalikes, who claim that their disposables with 1 ml of liquid, are "equivalent to about a pack of cigarettes". In MA, a pack of cigarettes costs about $10, and most of that is tax. Would you be happy paying $100 for a 10ml bottle of juice? Because that's what they're considering as "equivalent taxation".
It's not about "pretty expensive juice", it's about "outrageously high taxation". (And outrageously ignorant legislators).
That's a big no. The juice I buy seems to cost more than a pack of smokes anyway. But if push came to shove, I'd probably get into DIY.
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I get that appears to be the standard conversion everyone uses, but a pack of smokes lasted me a day, 10 ml of juice lasts me at least 2 days
Yeah I hadn't thought of that. Too much going on today to get complicated...lol a 10ml lasts me a week. I mean I have 20+ bottles of juice right now, I swap between 11 mod/tank combos all day every day. So I am probablly way below ciggy cost at tis point.
it's the weekend, and I'm studying annd waiting for a returning husband so...I can't brain
Not no, but HELL no! I DIY and am hoarding nic as we speak, I'm buying a little at a time until I no longer can then I'll wean off at my convenience. No more smoking for me.
nope......no turning back
i would finally be forced to give DIY a try.....i have no doubt that i could find a way to make it work
a month into my vaping adventure, i was already making my own mods.....and it was/is a lot of fun
we vapers can be very creative when need be....after all, this IS a hobby isnt it ? ......lol
vape on yall !
gervis
i would finally be forced to give DIY a try.....i have no doubt that i could find a way to make it work
a month into my vaping adventure, i was already making my own mods.....and it was/is a lot of fun
we vapers can be very creative when need be....after all, this IS a hobby isnt it ? ......lol
vape on yall !
gervis
And that's the danger. Not "everyone" uses that conversion factor.
In the early days of the internet, the MA state senate spent a whole day discussing an Internet Tax. They spent an entire session arguing whether a penny per byte or a tenth of a penny per byte was the more appropriate rate. No Lie. The next day they went on about their business as if the previous day's discussion never happened. My guess is that they all went back to their offices after the first session, and various assistants told each of them what complete ...... they were being.
I don't have any confidence that a $9/ml tax proposal on e-liquid would have the same result.
I DIY and I don't use nic. Costs me around $0.10 a ML so $1 for 10 ML and the price is not going up for me no matter what happens with vaping.
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