I have purchased a lot of devices. Mechs, box mods, vamos, etc etc. After all is said and done... guess what I use 95% of the time? My Provari. There's many reasons for that but I won't go into detail. No one will understand until they waste a bunch of money on the cheap stuff first and then discover something better. I just know what delivers a consistent, reliable, and quality vape that has never let me down. Ever. You get what you pay for and if cheap is your thing... have at it.
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While you're out on the ocean... go to the island that you'll be stranded on for years. Your 5 vamos will die before 1 provari will. Who's out the most money now and who is still vaping away? Provari means quality and reliability. Not gimmicks or another method of changing power. I have many variable wattage devices. It is a worthless feature. Add power.... or take it away. It's all the same thing. In the long run... the Provari is cheaper... and delivers a better vape the whole time. I know this because I own one as well as Vamos and MVPs.
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What do you think is getting adjusted automatically by your "VW" device, when you change the resistance of your load?
Answer: Voltage.
Consider an extreme example, four 8 ohm coils in parallel. Total Resistance = 2 ohms. Feed this thing 10 Watts, and each coil gets 2.5 W. You'll barely see any vapor.
Feed a single 2 ohm coil the same 10 W, and it's cloud city.
Wattage <> Vapor level. Too many other variables.
Voltage <> Vapor level. Too many other variables
Current <> Vapor level. Too many other variables
I thought the point of wattage is that once you find your sweet spot the wattage would change the device's voltage as your coil ages and gains resistance.
With the ProVari you occasionally have to up your voltage to stay in that sweet spot. Then again that could be an advantage as well when you get a sense of when your coil will pop from old age by how many times you bumped your voltage.
Meh I was born blond so I am prone to the occasional ditzy moment.
With the ProVari you occasionally have to up your voltage to stay in that sweet spot. Then again that could be an advantage as well when you get a sense of when your coil will pop from old age by how many times you bumped your voltage.
Meh I was born blond so I am prone to the occasional ditzy moment.
I do not own one presently but likely will some day. I want originals. I try to stay away from clones except when searching for rebuildable heads. Once I find good heads I will likely buy the originals and use them. Kinda like motorcycles and my friends that say I would like a Harley but can't afford it. Who can but I did it anyways.
I've only been vaping eight months, but I've definitely chosen the path of "vaping hobbyist". My collection may not be as extensive as many on this forum, but I think I've assembled a good selection of vape gear, from clearomizers to rebuildables, from mechs to several variable devices.
I picked up my Provari, used, on the forums. It comes with me every day.
Is it the Alpha and Omega of vaping? Certainly not. There are things I can do with mechs and my DNA mods that I simply cannot with my Provari.
But I know that it's going to work, every time. I've dropped it in my basement, on my driveway, at work. I've fallen asleep ON it, woken up with it, and have had the dogs and the cat knock it off the coffee table.
It works today, it's going to work tomorrow. It may not be the shiniest, it may not be the fanciest. It has its limits, and its detractors.
But it's definitely become my Old Faithful.
Is it worth it? For me it was. For you, maybe not so much, but on the bright side, you can buy one, keep it for six months, and get almost all of your money back if you feel like selling it in the classifieds.
I picked up my Provari, used, on the forums. It comes with me every day.
Is it the Alpha and Omega of vaping? Certainly not. There are things I can do with mechs and my DNA mods that I simply cannot with my Provari.
But I know that it's going to work, every time. I've dropped it in my basement, on my driveway, at work. I've fallen asleep ON it, woken up with it, and have had the dogs and the cat knock it off the coffee table.
It works today, it's going to work tomorrow. It may not be the shiniest, it may not be the fanciest. It has its limits, and its detractors.
But it's definitely become my Old Faithful.
Is it worth it? For me it was. For you, maybe not so much, but on the bright side, you can buy one, keep it for six months, and get almost all of your money back if you feel like selling it in the classifieds.
You sound just like I used to sound.....
Variable Voltage and Variable Wattage just adjust opposite sides of a mathematic equation.....Nothing more. With a Variable Voltage device, I do the math. With a wattage device, I let the device do the math.
Nothing more than that.
As you experience vaping more, you will understand that certain liquids and certain tanks/cartos/clearos/RBA's vape differently.
10 watts is NOT 10 watts as far as flavor production.
E.G. 9 Watts on an EVOD or Mini PT2 will almost certainly burn any juice you put into it. That same watts on a Kayfun barely gets it started.
Why? Look at the head. The Evod and PT2's have microscopic pieces of wick and smaller coils, where as a Kayfun has a much larger amount of wicking material and can keep up.
And don't even get me started on 8 watts on a ProTank vs 8 Watts on an Aspire Nautilus. Dual coils throw your argument out the window. 8 watts on a dual coil atty tastes NOTHING like 8 watts on a single coil atty.
Set it and forget it!!!???? You've watched too many Ronco Commercials.
Yes, I have to do some minor tweaking between atomizer changes, but since I can find out my coil resistance, It's very easy for me to adjust up or down a couple tenths of a volt to compensate for the differences in my Kayfuns and the juice they carry. This isn't rocket science.
Is variable wattage a nice to have feature....sure. But just like your "car" analogy. There's always people who have fun driving stick shifts.
For your throw the Mod's in the ocean argument. I'm not into throwing my Mod into the ocean. I also don't like throwing them in the trash, which is why I settled on a ProVari.
I love my MVP's but they will be paperweights long before my ProVari dies. And long after you throw your 5th Vamo away, I'll still be on my first ProVari.....
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People that post these threads are just seeking attention and assurance. Common Provari user, I'd say.
If my coils are gaining resistance, it means I have gunk on them and it's time to dry burn them.
Don't get me wrong. Variable Wattage is nice. I love it on my MVP. Just like I love the MVP's all in one design. But it's not a deal breaker.
The ProVari is 5 times more accurate in it's voltage delivery than anything else. (+- .02 volts vs +-.1 volt for all the others). Check out the pbusardo videos if you don't believe me.
Combine that accuracy, along with the rugged reliability that would allow me to dunk my ProVari in a glass of water and not flinch...You have a device that will give you years and years of service.
But they aren't for everyone. If you always like "new" stuff. Then move along.... If you only like spending your money once. Then a ProVari may be for you.
A Provari will continuosly monitor your battery's voltage and make automatic adjustments as the battery drains. Your last puff will be as good as the first as the battery drains.
Coils don't change their resistance that much as they age to require adjustments in voltage.
How many people actually need 30 watts and higher amp limits? The average simple vaper is using clearomizers, cartotanks, or a Kayfun rebuildable tank atomizer that don't need all of that power. Only the elite enthusiast needs that much power.
I consider myself an simple, average vaper. I use cartotanks and a Kayfun rebuildable atomizer tank. The Provari suits these perfectly. I don't need more power. I don't do sub ohm coils and I wouldn't ever think of using over 12 watts of power.
MOST people just want a reliable, dependable, and durable mod that can be serviced (should it ever need it) in the USA for life. That would be a Provari.
You have to pay a little more for a better tool and customer service nowadays. Is the Provari worth this? I would say yes if you are a vaper like myself.
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Another high wattage vape argument.
If you're not sub ohming, you're not one of the cool kids.
1.8 ohms on a Kayfun at 10 Watts is just dandy for me. Nice warm vape. Tons of flavor.
Just how exactly are you planning of hitting a 30 watt coil? 70 watt coil? 100 watt coil? With a dripper, of course.....
High wattage is great for dripping but I know of no wicking materials that would be able to keep up with a 30 watt atty without giving dry hits. Is anyone pushing 30 watts on anything other than an RDA? I'd like to know.
But hey. Everyone vapes with a 10ml bottle of juice in their pocket and hits their dripper after every hit right???!!!?? Right!!!!???!!!
Yea!!! Newbie sub ohmers can now build their quad barrel vertical shotgun slap your mamma till your sister cries micro coil by Rip Trippers without venting their battery on themselves..
Congrats...
You missed the point and exagerated the cost of a Provari. And stop comparing an e-cigarette to cars. Apples and oranges.
A Provari costs $159 from Provape. Period. Not upwards of $270 as you spread inaccurate information.
Just because you are a high wattage vaper does not mean everyone else is. Most vapers are not and they will never need that much power.
Yeah, a great warranty is an important feature when choosing a mod, at least it was for me. I got tired of mods breaking and it becoming a very expensive paperweight. A lot of good all those "bells & whistles" are if you can't use them.
If your DNA high watt mod needs repair, who's going to fix it, and how long will it take them to repair it? A Provari in need of repair will be back in your hands in a weeks time, but more than likely it will never need it. I have security knowing that I have that option should I need it.
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Wow. Did it really take 12 pages for the belittling of Provari users to start? 
Or maybe I missed some earlier on.
Or maybe I missed some earlier on.
My take is, this is funny thread. My motto is, if you don't use it, sell it or pif it, if still functional.
Every ones vaping needs, goals, and journey are different. That's why it so important to find out as much as possible about all the ways to get ones vape ON. Then find the form, style and power requirements to satisfy your needs.
My main mantra is, quality authentic gear is always the best vape investment. Every addition to my gear should last me the rest of my life, while supplying Outstanding Total Vape Satisfaction.
I used to think I'd never spend $200 for an rba, turns out was mistaking about that. Was super jazzed I had a chance. All I have to do is look at how much I haven't spent on smokes during this first year of vaping, and come to the conclusion, How can I not want to invest that money into great vape!! I haven't spent quite that much, and am still in the black, so to speak, but I have really some killer fraking gear. I mean seriously. Some fraking serious excellent gear.
It don't mean anything to anybody but me. Could give a frak what others thought, mostly. lol, and yeah, I could have 100 mvp 2's and 60 vamos, or whatever, lol, and I ask, "umm, what's your point??" I don't own either because I would never, ever use them at all. But that's me.
Everyone has to find their own path in Vape, and one has to start somewhere. I started with a cig-a-like almost 1 year ago. Then I found the ecf when searching for issues with a PT. Then I learned what was possible.
As of this posting, my vape consist of DIY juice, mech and high amp regulated mods, and rba tank systems. That allows for customizing the vape along every aspect that affects it. If my vape or gear is not optimal, well there's only one person to blame, me.
Every ones vaping needs, goals, and journey are different. That's why it so important to find out as much as possible about all the ways to get ones vape ON. Then find the form, style and power requirements to satisfy your needs.
My main mantra is, quality authentic gear is always the best vape investment. Every addition to my gear should last me the rest of my life, while supplying Outstanding Total Vape Satisfaction.
I used to think I'd never spend $200 for an rba, turns out was mistaking about that. Was super jazzed I had a chance. All I have to do is look at how much I haven't spent on smokes during this first year of vaping, and come to the conclusion, How can I not want to invest that money into great vape!! I haven't spent quite that much, and am still in the black, so to speak, but I have really some killer fraking gear. I mean seriously. Some fraking serious excellent gear.
It don't mean anything to anybody but me. Could give a frak what others thought, mostly. lol, and yeah, I could have 100 mvp 2's and 60 vamos, or whatever, lol, and I ask, "umm, what's your point??" I don't own either because I would never, ever use them at all. But that's me.
Everyone has to find their own path in Vape, and one has to start somewhere. I started with a cig-a-like almost 1 year ago. Then I found the ecf when searching for issues with a PT. Then I learned what was possible.
As of this posting, my vape consist of DIY juice, mech and high amp regulated mods, and rba tank systems. That allows for customizing the vape along every aspect that affects it. If my vape or gear is not optimal, well there's only one person to blame, me.
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