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I agree with your thinking! This kit from Canvape includes the basics PLUS extras. At first I thought it was overkill but then I thought about all the nickel and dime shipping charges I had to pay everytime I wanted to try a different device and now I think it's a Great idea to offer New Comers a variety of the more popular devices rather than a basic kit with the minimum. I actually think a ProVari would discourage many more New Comers than it would please. Regardless, this " Ultimate" kit would become an excellent backup kit when a person chooses a more advanced system.
Contents ($109.95 w/free shipping):
2 pc Genuine Joyetech eGo-C Twist 650mAh or 1000mAh Batteries (Black or Stainless your choice! 1000mAh add $15.00)
2 pc eGo Vision Stardust 1 LR 1 SR (Clear)
1 pc Vivi Nova 3.5ml Kit
1 pc Vivi Nova 2.5ml Kit
1 pc Kanger T2 with 1 SR and 1 LR replaceable head
1 pc Kanger eGo Bottom Coil Clearomizer
1 pc Vision Extreme 3.5ml
1 pc Type-2 eGo Thread Cover
1 pc USB Rapid Charger
1 pc AC Wall Adapter
1 pc eGo Large Carrying Case
1 pc Genuine Joyetech Black eGo Lanyard
3X10ml Bottles of e-liquid
I know most New Comers will seek a less expensive kit and end up paying more but that is part of the learning process with these things! Lol
The first step is always," I want something that looks and tastes like a cigarette!" and the ProVari is many steps removed from that! Lol The Twist maybe stands a chance as a first e-cig. Of course there are people who can start with a ProVari but they usually have done their own research and made that decision on their own.
Relax, Enjoy!
I don't consider any of the PVs I've bought over the past year...well, except for a couple eGo LED types that did NOT work out...as "wasted". I liked them all at different times and still use many of them even after a year. I consider them as steps in my journey, and valuable. Until I went to the next step...each one of them (except those 2 exceptions) were things I really appreciated and used heavily. Until I moved on to the "next big thing".
I might suggest a Provari to a new person who seemed to indicate that VV was important to them, and if they seemed to understand what a commitment they would be making. It's a fine device. But it isn't for everyone. I was lucky in that a friend gave me a LT back in April and it gave me a chance to try out VV for myself. I discovered that while the "idea" was terrific, and the device itself worked great...I honestly didn't give two shakes about VV due to my vaping style and the fact I don't change around juices/resistance etc. really. I know what I like..and that is what I use. Why have a VV device if you really like 3.7 volts with a 2ohm resistance atty? It's kind of a "waste" isn't it? At that rate, I'd rather have a few good mechanicals, and pile of rechargeable batteries. I'm not going to be playing with voltage...so why pay for it?
But that doesn't mean I don't understand that VV and something of high quality like the Provari might be important to someone else. If it appears that a person, no matter how new to vaping, sees what the Provari has to offer as valuable to them, I wouldn't hesitate to encourage their getting it!
I might suggest a Provari to a new person who seemed to indicate that VV was important to them, and if they seemed to understand what a commitment they would be making. It's a fine device. But it isn't for everyone. I was lucky in that a friend gave me a LT back in April and it gave me a chance to try out VV for myself. I discovered that while the "idea" was terrific, and the device itself worked great...I honestly didn't give two shakes about VV due to my vaping style and the fact I don't change around juices/resistance etc. really. I know what I like..and that is what I use. Why have a VV device if you really like 3.7 volts with a 2ohm resistance atty? It's kind of a "waste" isn't it? At that rate, I'd rather have a few good mechanicals, and pile of rechargeable batteries. I'm not going to be playing with voltage...so why pay for it?
But that doesn't mean I don't understand that VV and something of high quality like the Provari might be important to someone else. If it appears that a person, no matter how new to vaping, sees what the Provari has to offer as valuable to them, I wouldn't hesitate to encourage their getting it!
failure makes you appreciate success. how would i know the provari is so good unless i had tried other things?
provari is still too big for me personally. i wont be buying one. glad i did not waste that much money on one.
provari is still too big for me personally. i wont be buying one. glad i did not waste that much money on one.
I dont know what ya mean a Provari cant run low ohm,,, I run 2 Provaris at 1.2ohms set up with my real DiD's and there fantastic at LR,,, Now the older Provari with the lower AMP limit use to be an issue, but the newer Provari's with the 3.5AMP Limit serves me just fine with LR stuff.
That is a very nice kit, to try all kinds of things. I think I would go slightly easier on the clearos, and also include something like one Smoktech DCT and a small pack of standard Boge or Kanger cartos.
On his mechanical mod he is getting the 13.5 watts that he seems to like from his 1.0 ohm coil at 3.7v. Well that is also 3.7 Amps, which the Provari can't do.
The amperage required is the reason that so many Gennie users like mechanical mods and high drain bats.
It's not that a gennie won't work on a Provari, it's just that you have to run them to close to their upper limit.
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Well they can true. But on the edge. I rather get a hot hit then a e I'm not knocking it. Its a good product. Even for a newbie. But they do need to get ride of the press fit cap.
I guess since I've been using the did since June. Vv is not needed and another thing to break. I'm hard on my stuff.
If the person I was recommending an ecig to was a person I know wouldn't have the ability to rebuild. I think a provari would be it. As your carts get old you can turn up the voltage and get some more time on them.
I was with a friend the other day with a provari. I said its been a while let me put the did on it. I needed to keep the voltage to 3,7. To keep it from e.
Glad it working out for you. As long as we are not smoking the stinky.
Tony
Only two issues I've found with Provari (and really these are personal problems for me most may not have an issue with)
First:
Dual Coil.. The provari is build for single coil, it doesnt recognize that you can run a 1.5 ohm dual coil at higher voltage than a single coil and it gives you an error.
Second:
The menu system sucks. I switch hit a lot of juices, tanks, carto and RAT, I'm sort of scared to run my rebuildables on my other devices that don't give errors the same way the provari does but having to go through that horrible menu system to check ohms, change voltage etc is a big pain in the ... compared to my other one click mods.
First:
Dual Coil.. The provari is build for single coil, it doesnt recognize that you can run a 1.5 ohm dual coil at higher voltage than a single coil and it gives you an error.
Second:
The menu system sucks. I switch hit a lot of juices, tanks, carto and RAT, I'm sort of scared to run my rebuildables on my other devices that don't give errors the same way the provari does but having to go through that horrible menu system to check ohms, change voltage etc is a big pain in the ... compared to my other one click mods.
Wait a second. I don't have a provari, but would still like to understand. How can it tell that it's a dual coil? Wouldn't it see that carto as a 3 ohm single coil?
No it doesnt, it recognizes the Ohms which is a measurement of electrical resistance, it doesnt recognize that it's a dual coil and thats the problem. it just reads that it's 1.5 ohms and caps the voltage based on that.
My 30$ Ego works amazingly...love that thing. Also have a Silver Bullet though.
Why not? Personally it's none of my business nor is it my responsibility to save them from themselves. They know better than I whether they can afford it or not. I would definitely give them my opinion, and yes I would recommend a provari.
If someone was comfortable with the price and wanted a tube mod, sure I would. I've rarely heard of anyone that had one not liking it.
It's not for me. Not because of the price or quality, I just I prefer bottom feeders. I like box type mods better for my hands. If someone wanted to give me one, I'd take it.
But I didn't know that until I tried a few different mods.
It's all about context.
Some people need baby steps, and some people don't. Some people show up and want to know from the word go what's considered the best possible device. And some people want something that looks just like a cigarette and tastes like a cigarette and I don't want to press a button and all of THAT.
Some people need baby steps, and some people don't. Some people show up and want to know from the word go what's considered the best possible device. And some people want something that looks just like a cigarette and tastes like a cigarette and I don't want to press a button and all of THAT.
But if you know it's a dual coil you just double the voltage.
Thats not entirely correct.Ive kicked up the voltage on my Provari more than once to match the dual resistance of a dual coil and its worked flawlessly.
Youre having issues because youre using low resistance dual coils which are another animal entirely
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