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Hiya!
Sorry for being so dramatic in the title, but could'nt find a better way to put it.

So i'd like to start with how i started vaping, back in 2012 when i visited germany and they had a disposable cigg-alike. I had never even heard of ecigg back then, i was intrigued by this device.
Looked just like a cigarette, but didn't rly taste much. But it made me interested and went looking online.
Around 2013 i bought my first ego twist / vision spinner with a pro tank. Coupled with a bottle of ry4 24mg bottle.
I remember being so hyped when i got it, this is finally it time to quit smoking.


I was not prepared though how well it would hit, first inhale and it was like a brickwall hit me. Never the less i learned to love the flavour, even tho it wasn't cigarette taste.
Quickly went down to 18mg then 12mg.
Around 5 months later i started being interested in mods, well the few we had. And RTAs.
Ended up with nemesis + kayfun lite. And that stuck with me for a long time.
Keept using that to around 2018. so about 6-5 years. Started some DIY aswell. Then EU laws came about it was just to expensive to continue.

Decided to use snus instead since it's so much cheaper (3$a can of 20 snus vs 10$ 10ml/12mg, for comparision)
So i quit vaping altogether.


So now on to the topic at hand:
So recently i was at the bar and had severe cravings, decided i'll buy a disposable to get me by.
And that reminded me how much i used to love vaping.
I see the landscape is entirely diffrent now. So i spent couple days researching. Decided i'll keep it simple this time and just use pods, as seems to be the king these days.

Didn't take many days until i dusted of my nemesis and kayfun combos.
But to my surprise,, they realy don't taste much better than what the zero 2 and joytech ego kit i went with when i wanted a simple kit.
Still love the kayfun combo tho in terms of looks. But man have tanks evolved, but also devolved (if that's a word?)
I feel there's no tanks out there anymore,, it's all pods now. Which i kinda understands why i guess. But rba/rta market for example, is super dead in sweden. The few sites here only carry 1 brand and only 1 of said brand. While disposables or pods in loads.. kinda sad to see.

And then now the final kicker, another reason i decided to go back vaping is, to quit snus.
Yes you heard me correct.
Eu has now decided to impose on us swedes an impressive 8$ dollar tax on snus, which makes no sense.
Until i learned that swedish match has recently been bought out by philip morris.
This is so sad. And also angers me so much. There's a reason swedes rarely smoke, due our snus. Now they will tax it even worse than e ciggs are, - which is also why i quit vaping to begin with.
To get a 10ml juice here with nic is 10$. You can buy 100ml "shortfill" which you then add 1-2 nic shots to for 3-6mg nico.
So we're basically forced to subohm here.
That all rant said, i now try to use the low 6mg to get me of the snus, just incase. planning to go 0 nic.

But yea EU is now taking away our snus pretty much.
Reason we're angry is due cost has been 3 euro then tax then 4 + tax then 5 eu + tax. Now they want it to cost 12 eu + tax.
Im so annoyed.
So in one way im happy to be back, but also annoyed.
I also i guess forgot my point of this rant. The new devices as small as they are, holy crap do they deliver taste even over the kayfun i was used to.
So that also leads me back to the ry4 part.
I recently ordered graham cracker vanilla custard. It tastes just like the ry4 did back then. So i got quite abit nostalgic.
And since i've been smoke free for many years now. Holy crap does it smell and nearly taste like the Nets i used to use.

Edit: I couln't get the images to show in starter post, so i posted them in each post. Hopefully that's okay.

But ye i was unsure where to post this as ive many rambling but in one post.
 
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That's government for you; problem-reaction-solution. Good job :thumbs:

I believe it's called the Hegelian dialectic. I'm right there with you.
Yea it's quite sad :/
Also thanks for learning me a new word, i had to look that one up. :)
As im reading around, good news seems to be tho if we refuse it EU can't ban us. But i'm not sure that's a good thing anyway. Our party used the same rethoric when it came to tdp Ie 2018. Yet our gov wanted to make it even worse. Wasn't until UK started endorsing vaping in healthcare our gov started to use their brains.
So atleast we're not fully forbidden like others.
That all said, now EU, not sweden wants to go after snus, which they've wanted for a long time. But it's been dormant for quite some time. Until recently. Because PM bought swedish match, which is our biggest brand/producer.

I feel this deal should be looked into. Why would they sell out after 200 years of good buisniess.. Im at loss.
 

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Aslo i thought initially that this deal would lead to more widespread knowledge and use of snus, not reduced.
Snubie for example, a huge advocate for it for over 10 years(in the US), got banned on youtube recently.
He's the sole reason general even exist in few places in US, and this was before vaping was even a thing.
BT doesn't want ppl to get an easy way out. They want to keep their "customers" cuz it's a bilion industry that they're losing.
 

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Our government used to put cigarette rations in the military mess kits during the first few world wars.
Talk about messing people up.
Well atleast that part i can understand,, but i say that as former smoker.
If i were to be put into combat, i'd chain smoke more than i currently vape. To cope with the stress.
I'm already stressed as it is. So yea if i were put there, i'd use the damn smokes.

Maybe i misunderstood your point there, but here's mine :p
 

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    If i were to be put into combat, i'd chain smoke more than i currently vape. To cope with the stress.
    I believe the nazi soldiers had it better, but alas. lol. jk. Our government had a large population of other addicts coming back from Viet Nam.
     
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    Nope.

    The "jk" means JOKING.
    Gotcha, i got abit defensive, partially because at the time i came home from the bar, but also due i tend to read a lot about ukraine. And the propaganda against ukraine or the west in general = nazi.
    And i assumed above user saw my blue and yellow and assumed ukraine. Which is why i took offense to it.
    Relax. I'm just kidding.

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    I'm swede, too. :greengrin:
    Gotcha.
    So i wanted to post a cool comparision i did on another forum also. A non vaping forum, but talking about it. Which made me to take a comparision.
    That how we sort of went backwards but yet not.
    Nemesis + kayfun combo was / is small and neat, but i realise the pod systems are basically just now catching up.
    I see no way to link images so ill do it in next post. What happened to this forums usability i wonder. Can't use tags or paste tags.
    heck i don't even see smily bar anymore.
     

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    The joke was about nazi soldiers were given methamphetamines to cope with their doomed mission.

    :(

    I know the Nemesis is a discreet mech and I have a few k'funs myself. I was recently bequeathed a pod system and could never pay proper attentintion; burnt almost each and every coil.

    Someone else here might be able to guide you on the repost situation. I just copy and paste. Maybe copy the site page and paste into your next post, or use screenshots like I do. This site tried to do a drag and drop system, but the results still may vary.
     
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