So you think there is less wta in the 17 mg? Thought it might be the same wta but lower nic.
WTA is the future
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WholeCig states that they aren't adding nicotine to the juice, and since WTA is already (roughly) 95% nicotine, they see no reason to add any more. WTA and standard nicotine only differ by about 5% minor alkaloids, which is what we're paying extra for.
This is how Dvap (the original creator of WTA) stated WTA can be handled:
"You could do WTA a couple ways:
1. WTA Spiked into nicotine (WTA containing minor alkaloids and nicotine) plus more nicotine. This would result in a spread not in line with the natural spread, enhanced in nicotine. Nothing really wrong with this, I guess.
2. WTA as the only alkaloid bearing component."
WholeCig states that they are doing it according to point #2. I think you were thinking of point number #1.
So if WTA is approximately 95% nicotine:
25 mg WTA is about 23.75 mg of nicotine and about 1.25 mg minor alkaloids
20 mg WTA is about 19 mg of nicotine and about 1 mg minor alkaloids
17 mg WTA is about 16.15 mg of nicotine and about 0.85 mg of minor alkaloids
Don't let the low mg of the minor alkaloids fool you--even in very low doses, they still perform.
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I've been reading this thread a lot and wanted to order from vapelicious but somehow I think he's down...
Anyways I went ahead and ordered a bottle of 10ml 25mg WTA from WholeCig.com.
The reason why I got it is that I'm having trouble going to sleep and from time to time with a drink I want that "feeling". So I keep smoking analogs once in a while and I'd really like to quit them for good, that's where I expect the WTA to play it's part
Anyways I went ahead and ordered a bottle of 10ml 25mg WTA from WholeCig.com.
The reason why I got it is that I'm having trouble going to sleep and from time to time with a drink I want that "feeling". So I keep smoking analogs once in a while and I'd really like to quit them for good, that's where I expect the WTA to play it's part
It boggles the mind that someone could do this with orders unfulfilled. And I really liked his liquids.
Aha. I hadn't tried looking for threads, but have been trying to contact him about the last order I placed. I haven't heard anything at all from him.
Aha. I hadn't tried looking for threads, but have been trying to contact him about the last order I placed. I haven't heard anything at all from him.
No one has, not even those that were frequently in contact with him. Sorry you were on of the ones left out in the cold.
Who knows, maybe one day everyone will get their orders? It may very well not happen.
Are there paid oustanding orders unfullfilled? I know AnthonyB was waiting for some but kind of lost track.
I don't think it's particularly mind boggling. We do business in vapeland pretty much on a handshake. Sometimes you shake the wrong hand. Explains some of my adventures and loyalty.
Unless something else happened to him. Nobody seems to know the story.
Yes. A big fat YES! And I am not just talking about Anthony. I know of 4 (and 2 of those had huge orders).
well that's sad to hear. I'm finding myself wanting that extra "edge" lately so I'm going to pick up some WTA. I liked Aroma but wanted to try something different. I'll probably try out wholecig.
I hope you enjoy it. Interested to hear about your experience with it. I stand behind my impression and what I wrote. I think you will be impressed.Okay, I'm holding you personally responsible if I don't like the Wholecig product.
I ordered from wholecig and it made a really big difference for me mentally. Cutting down on cravings was almost a side benefit because I was so happy about the anxiety attacks going away. And this was from fairly minimal daily use so I am super pleased all around.
I'm sure I will Anthony. With WTA, I was vaping between 1 and 2 ml a week along with my daily 4-5 snus portions and I was good to go. I've been using regular nicquid lately and I'm using around a ML per day. WTA might be expensive, but from my perspective it's a lot cheaper from a weekly perspective and keeps the demons arrested.
Just got confirmation that you are correct. Thanks for explaining it clearly.
Oh NOOOOooooooo!
I HATE hearing this!!!
Ethan's eliquids were my favs.
My last order took a LONG time to fulfill. He said I "got lost in the shuffle". I haven't ordered again, since that 'waiting game' ended.
I sincerely HOPE folks remember they CAN authorize a 'charge back' for any purchases they've made that went unfulfilled.
I may have to give Wholecigs a try. I'm glad to say I no longer need WTA (or high nic), but like SunnyHours posted, there ARE times when WTA more than meets the need (like with Bourbon or Scotch)!
Glad to know there's a New Kid in town!
Hope wta works out for you. Out of curiosity where you getting a different feeling from snus than WTA? I vape 4-6 ml a day but don't use snus except rare occasions. Why only 1-2ml a week?
Most of this is a physiological thing if you need the additives in cigarettes added to your VAPPING juice then why not just smoke a cigarette now and then. Here it is some people don't want to quit smoking they are just looking for a so called 100% safer way to do it. I'm sorry but that doesn't exist period. Vapping is safer than burning tobacco yes but not 100% safer. I for one chose vapping to get away from the tobacco that was destroying my life. I don't want or need my juice to be more like a cigarette. This is a bad idea but I also believe in freedom of choice. I also feel that wta juice should be in a sepetate category away from regular original e liquids. We are not smokers we are VAPPERS!
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