Whole Tobacco Alkaloid (WTA) A users experience and insight.

[Mr.Mann]

Anything is better than the analogs. I'll try anything once or twice. Maybe even for a while to get off them.

A lot of things are better, but using eliquid in ways that it was not intended could be a catastrophic. The last thing any of us needs is to hear horror story about someone getting sick for using eliquid in ways beyond its intended purpose. I love vaping, but doing anything else with eliquid (like what was mentioned) is beyond the pale.

 

[tnt56]

A lot of things are better, but using eliquid in ways that it was not intended could be a catastrophic. The last thing any of us needs is to hear horror story about someone getting sick for using eliquid in ways beyond its intended purpose. I love vaping, but doing anything else with eliquid (like what was mentioned) is beyond the pale.

I won't disagree with what you've said and I was only trying to make a small joke. I've had a drop of juice in my mouth before and it's almost as bad as when you get some in your eyes. Not really fun with either.

 

[snork]

A lot of things are better, but using eliquid in ways that it was not intended could be a catastrophic. The last thing any of us needs is to hear horror story about someone getting sick for using eliquid in ways beyond its intended purpose. I love vaping, but doing anything else with eliquid (like what was mentioned) is beyond the pale.

Let's suppose some person was weird enough to *like* the taste of ejuice and found that putting a few drops under the tongue did the trick. Since we're all pretty much self-medicating and self-dosing using concoctions of wildy varying constituents, is there really a problem?

I think this is far from an exact science.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I won't disagree with what you've said and I was only trying to make a small joke. I've had a drop of juice in my mouth before and it's almost as bad as when you get some in your eyes. Not really fun with either.

I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Yeah, the "eyes" business is no fun at all! But hey, maybe some people use it as eyedrops?

Let's suppose some person was weird enough to *like* the taste of ejuice and found that putting a few drops under the tongue did the trick. Since we're all pretty much self-medicating and self-dosing using concoctions of wildly varying constituents, is there really a problem?

I think this is far from an exact science.

People are free to self-medicate with whatever way they see fit -- if they get sick or worse, that's their business -- but, if and when it gets bad publicity, that's when it becomes our business. I think it's safe to say that any liquid vendor, specifically those mentioned in this thread, would not condone, advocate or want to be associated with their products used in this fashion. But to answer your question, "is there really a problem?" Apparently it is a problem posting about it on this forum as a means of self-medicating. Whether using eliquid in ways that it wasn't intended, specifically in the way that was mentioned, is a medical problem or not is IMO one that should not have to be discovered, though it probably will.

I generally am not one of those that is overly concerned with the future of vaping, at least when we are talking about actual vaping, but this is something else. Speaking of actual vaping, this button is itching to be pressed.

 

[Faylool]

My experience with nicotine for the last 10 years until I started vaping was chewing Nicorette gum 4 mg. It gets swallowed. It was intended to be chewed. I sure would be dumb to try and vape it. I should have posted under nicotine questions but it was just a little funny because Im having trouble dealing with the consistency of the WTA DIY. I really think it needs suggestions given on the sales site and I won't be getting it in this base next time or I won't be getting it at all

 

[Mr.Mann]

My experience with nicotine for the last 10 years until I started vaping was chewing Nicorette gum 4 mg. It gets swallowed. It was intended to be chewed. I sure would be dumb to try and vape it. I should have posted under nicotine questions but it was just a little funny because Im having trouble dealing with the consistency of the WTA DIY. I really think it needs suggestions given on the sales site and I won't be getting it in this base next time or I won't be getting it at all

Faylool, I hope it doesn't seem like I was piling on you, but I get where you are coming from. I don't know the ends and outs of the digestive track and what is acceptable and what isn't, but I think you are totally clear on the reasoning here. As far as the consistency issues you are having, if you are able to purchase from Vapelicious, you would be able to specify what ratio you get. I got some here at 70/30 PG/VG @ 18 mg with extra high WTA (whatever that means), but it is thin and would probably work better for you. I will say that this WTA DIY put me on my backside one night after hitting it too hard -- I haven't had that happen since I smoked a cig to fast. Wow!

What are you using as a delivery device, e.g. carto, atty, RBA, ViVi?

 

[Faylool]

In response to post above. At this time I'm using a joyetech 510 2.5 ohm atty which is working well even though I will still request PG only from here on out and still at this time Aroma is the only reliable source. I get by fine on his e juice and his DIY is rarely available. To bad. Nothing about his WTA knocks me on my .... but it is the very best for me when I'm keyed up and vaping a lot because it doesn't get me wired. I don't like wired....ever. Nope. I didn't feel singled out. It's kind of political and with vaping under the gun doesn't look good to post about using a product in way not intended just because the consistency bugs. It was thought,ess of me. No worry. Next time I need WTA e juice I sure hope Vapeliscious is up and rolling. I'm set for awhile because I am happily vaping a lot less these days.

 

[Mr.Mann]

If I can get my hands on more of the Vapelicious DIY, I will give you a holler. Who knows though, his site is always down and Aroma is always out of the DIY.

p.s. I love, love Joyetech atties (when they work ), but what kind of PV are you using?

 

[Faylool]

I have Vamo. It's great on watt function but battery life still sucks or maybe I expected too much. Also just got brassMortar mechanicql telescope (philipines thing) off classifieds but I actually haven't used it for Attomizers. It does tank just fine. I plan to get a kick for it. AND. I'll have $ for more WTA the first week of Jan. if I see Vapeliscious site up I'll let you know too. If his sites not up I'll do it thru email like before if he's going to continue doing that. What a friggen hassle. I certainly hope it changes but I can also make do with just nicotine like before. I'm happy. Thanks for the support.

 

[Mr.Mann]

What a friggen hassle. I certainly hope it changes but I can also make do with just nicotine like before. I'm happy. Thanks for the support.

Yup! It's been like that ever since I can remember. I know what you mean about being all "keyed up!" That is what happened to me the other night and I decided to drip the Vapelicious DIY straight. I used an IKV 1.8 ohm atty and that was when I found myself, after two huge pulls, plopping down sideways at the foot of the bed staring at the ceiling.

 

[Faylool]

Ha ha Lucky YOU!

 

[mariahpoo]

For those that need it, WTA is apparently a Godsend, fortunately, most don't need it.

I was one who did not need it. And I think my lucky stars that vaping was more of a love and a godsend to me my very first draw. I believe and know in my heart of hearts that vaping has saved my life. And I will continue to convert others.

With that being said, I LOVE OP's post. And I have been thinking of getting some WTA juice for my father in law, who is having a tough transition himself. He has a hard time getting use to the feel and how to inhale vapor. But I think he would be more willing to push through it if it had more of the desired effect. I have been looking into WTA because of that. So I thank you so much for your post. I will be getting some for him. Thank you!

 

[Charlie C]

Mariahpooh,

I'm pleased you found the post and I trust that you can get some for your Father in law.
Let me know how things go will you?

 

[mariahpoo]

Mariahpooh,

I'm pleased you found the post and I trust that you can get some for your Father in law.
Let me know how things go will you?

Sure will!

 

[Drael]

I have some wta e-liquid. Its perhaps about 9-10 months old. I went back to smoking you see, switching back to vaping again now. Its been in the freezer for about 4 months of that (since I knew that was the better way to keep it)

I noticed a small amount of particulate sediment when I took it out for awhile and then dripped into a carto. What is this flavouring, crystallize ethyl maltytol crystals?

Just wondering if I am pushing the self life....

 

[Drael]

Interestingly I cant see any particulate in the juice bottles themselves...

 

[Bluerooster]

I managed to obtain some un-flavored, 0 nic. WTA juice.
I mixed it with my non- WTA high nic juice, and came up with a decent mid nic/WTA juice.
The un-flavored WTA has no taste at all. And doesn't appreciably affect the flavor of other juices.
For some reason I prefer the fruit flavors. And found that when mixed as above, the taste isn't weakend at all.

 

[Bluerooster]

Interestingly I cant see any particulate in the juice bottles themselves...

Mabe not particulates in the juice, but in the carto, and floating up before it absorbs?

 

[Drael]

Mabe not particulates in the juice, but in the carto, and floating up before it absorbs?

Well, nah thats not it. Basically I mixed by WTA e-juice with some nic-only, in a needly nose bottle, as I was pouring/squirting it onto the carto filler, I noticed a small amount of this particulate sediment in the needle nosed bottle.

But I cant really see any in any of the original bottles themselves. Smells fine. Probably just going to vape it soon, but I did wonder about the shelf life.

Before I put them in the freezer, they did experience a bit of summer (our summers arent super hot, but they are warm)

Probably nobody can answer, lol Most people just vape their liquids. I am bummed I left them for awhile for going back to smoking really.

 

[snork]

I managed to obtain some un-flavored, 0 nic. WTA juice.
I mixed it with my non- WTA high nic juice, and came up with a decent mid nic/WTA juice.
The un-flavored WTA has no taste at all. And doesn't appreciably affect the flavor of other juices.
For some reason I prefer the fruit flavors. And found that when mixed as above, the taste isn't weakend at all.

0 nic WTA juice sounds intriguing. Where'd you find that?