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Bad Ninja

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That just means that you should be able to feed yourself without assistance, right?

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If you have to ask....that mod isnt for you.



This is why I laugh when people say mechanicals should come with instructions.
If you need instructions to use it, you probably arent an advanced user and thus shouldnt use it in the first place.
You need to do more research.

Knowing ones limitations would stop many of these incidents.
 

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Hopefully no one. ;)

I was just going off what you said about failures that can happen from a "manufacturers defect" and the line of discussion on the use of plastic battery boxes. I guess I should have parsed out that bit for clarity.

I will agree that plastic boxes with provide some small level of protection from damage, that is greater than an empty pocket, but if the failure is due to a manufacturers defect I think you're kind of screwed.

I'd also imagine that most failure do to a manufacturers defect would likely happen under load?
Agreed.

As to your question, yes they're more likely to happen WITH CURRENT FLOW. (Including charging like many of the ego incidents)

BUT! A defect shows when it shows. There's no rule.

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You should have seen how my hands were shaking with my first ever foray into hybrid mechs.

Protruding pin on atty? *check
Battery current up to snuff? *check
Build in atty not ridiculous? *check.

*screws in atty* *inserts battery* (no sparks...whew) *stares at mod* *continues staring at mod* *goes outside with said mod and with a modicum of fastidiousness depresses firing button with hand shaking like a leaf in a hurricane* (mod fires wonderfully...no explosions...no sparks...no thermal runaway)
 

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which is the point of those horrible expensive to repair "crush zones" on the newer cars.

Ah, never knock good crumple zones. Took a concrete median divider head on at 55 mph (yes, there was a reason, involving either a school bus or the divider to pick from). Popped off my seat belt, opened the door (didn't even have to push), walked down the road a ways (no point getting hit in a secondary crash), and waited for the flatbed.

Through 35 pages of this, the bottom line is Li ion technology remains our best solution for a high current rechargeable battery. It's not perfect, and can fail, at times spectacularly. It can fail due to mishandling, internal manufacturing defects, to looking at it funny. Proper care and treatment keeps failures to a minimum, but even with the best of intentions, "energetic release of energy" may still occur. Lots of Note 7 owners feel picked on too when the flight attendant announces you can't have them on the plane (why you would still be carrying one around is beyond me, but maybe it falls under the "bunch of loose batteries in your pocket with change" mentality).

Hopefully better battery design will be developed that avoids spectacular fails. Until then, continue to expect these occurrences to make the news, and continue to expect them to be manipulated to serve a secondary policy agenda by those who can benefit from it. As there is no movement to ban cellphones to "save the children", I guess Samsung is safe on the phone side of the issue from the pitchfork and torches crowd (still cost them several billion dollars to clean that Note 7 mess anyhow).
 

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I've heard some iphones have also been going up in flames. Point is, even if you do everything perfectly, following all of the directions flawlessly, dotting the i's and crossing the t's, if there's a 1% chance something can go wrong, it will. We do not live in a perfect world.
 

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Ah, never knock good crumple zones. Took a concrete median divider head on at 55 mph (yes, there was a reason, involving either a school bus or the divider to pick from). Popped off my seat belt, opened the door (didn't even have to push), walked down the road a ways (no point getting hit in a secondary crash), and waited for the flatbed.

I was kidding around, but yes, I agree, crumple zones work and modern cars are safer because of them.
 
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I've heard some iphones have also been going up in flames. Point is, even if you do everything perfectly, following all of the directions flawlessly, dotting the i's and crossing the t's, if there's a 1% chance something can go wrong, it will. We do not live in a perfect world.

Yeah and it's way lower than 1%. I'm not sure what the numbers are now, but between 2009-2014 there were 25 cases reported by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Of course this doesn't include all cases, as all cases aren't reported. But still very low numbers.
 
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I was kidding around, but yes, I agree, crumple zones work and modern cars are safer because of them.
In general, absolutely.

But every once in a while...

As you could imagine, my career puts me in a unique position to witness some doozies.

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Watch this: Battery explodes in pocket of West Yorkshire shopper

"West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service Fire Investigator Jamie Lister said: “This footage clearly shows the dangers of storing batteries alongside any metal objects, be it keys, coins, or even your phone if it has a metal case."
Yeah, and that being the UK, they didn't say, "E-cigs are dangerous and should be banned!"

Instead, the said (essentially): "Don't do stupid stuff with your spare batteries!"

Kinda refreshing, isn't it?
 

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Wonder what type of mod that is. I screen grabbed in pchop and sharpened:

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(Sorry, I'm a lil late getting the 'news')

Looks like an iStick TC 60W.

But what's also the probable cause is shown on the floor...
(2) fried cells with their jacket melted off and (2) presumably LG HG2's (brown jacket)
If all 4 batts were in his pocket and none of them were in a case, it's not at all surprising why his pocket when into thermal meltdown.
Just another dumbazz that doesn't know a thing about battery safety...
 
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