Yet another noob question that must have been asked before

[fourtytwo]

Ok. this is just another "Total noob trying to decide on a starter setup" post.
Like many, I am at about a pack a day of analogs looking for a starting point.
I was originally looking at a 510 kit because the form factor is close to an analog but the consensus seems to be that I might not like the battery life (or rather, lack of...).
From what I have read, it seems the Ego family is a very good general starting point but I am a bit confused about the variants. What is the difference between the T and C and what are the advantages of each?

 

[FarmYard]

i would suggest to buy a 18650 variable voltage mod. then you have a great mod that will accept a high or low resistance atty or carto and you can see what you like better.and it will accommodate pretty much anything and have great battery life.as always tho,to each there own.there are so many devices out there and different attys and such it will be hard to choose.when i first started i bought the green smoke.what a waste of 200 dollars.lol.

 

[redmerc]

The C stands for changeable as far as I know. The atty on the T is the whole cone, while the C's atty is a separate removable unit inside the cone. So, there's a big cost savings when replacing an atty with the C. You don't have to buy the cone just to get a new atty on the C. Just change the atty only.

The T, most will tell you leaks quite a bit. The C leaks very little or not at all. My C leaks are more like condensation not dripping out all over the unit.

Performance is most likely about the same, though I've read the C is a bit better in taste, TH, and vapor.

Cleaning and dry burning the C is pretty easy, while the T is more trouble. It's worth noting that if you don't want to clean or dry burn the C, the replacement attys are only about 5 bucks a piece.

Though good to start with, after about 2 months of use, I'm getting rid of the eGo-c attys and going to Stardusts and Boge Carto's, for performance reasons. Both are direct fit on eGo batteries that come with the C and the T.

Check out some youtube vids and you can see the differences.

 

[therealcmac]

I would recommend getting a couple eGo batteries and some boge cartomizers......you will most likely wind up there sooner or later after buying a T or C. Or if you are going to get a T or C kit pick up some Boge cartos as well and give them a shot, they will fit on the batteries you get with those kits. The T and C use a mini tank system that feed juice into a wick and then to the atomizer, they are notorious for Dry hits due to wicking problems, the T more than the C though. Just my

 

[rolandpibb]

eGo batts are great, KGO batts are better. Reg 510 batts don't last long and aren't large enough to accommodate low resistance Cartomizers or atomizers.

The T, C, & W eGo variants are separate tank and atomizer combinations with a needle system to wick to the atomizer. Vape is cool compared to most other methods, even the LR attys. Meh.

I tried the eGo tanks and never got truly satisfied. I was always primer puffing, or getting dry hits, or dealing with leaks. When I smoked, I just bought a pack and did it. The eGo tank systems took so much maintenance and space in my brain.

Get a KGO (higher voltage) batt and a few Cartomizers (LR & SR). No wicking problems, just a solid vape. No leaks, no fuss.

 

[albertbert]

He is already compromising what he wants by getting a ego, i think a mod is overkill. On the other hand, if the size doesnt bother you, maybe it would be a good choice lol.

The difference is just in the atomizers they use, that batteries are the same.

T = tank atomizers... i don't really know much about them, ive never used them. Hopefully someone else can tell you, or you can look it up.

C = changeable atomizer. The atty is in two pieces, the body, and the head. You reuse the bodies, and replace the heads when needed. I think the idea is that its supposed to be cheaper to just replace the heads in them, but i don't know if thats true.
This video shows what it is EGO-C , BETTER? WORSE? - YouTube

I don't really know that either would be the best choice for you. I've heard of lots of people having problems with both. It is good that you have decided to go for the ego's, and you should get one. A ego, is a good, safe choice, you won't be disappointed with one. But there are a lot of difference things you can connect to them to vape with. Instead of relying on a T or C system, you might want to get cartomizers with your purchase. Eventually, you will be able to try lots of different things, but to start off with, i think a pack of SR and LR boge cartos would be great. You could always buy a ego-c conversion kit, or a tank atomizer afterwards and see if they works for you.

Good luck.

edit: wow lots of other posts lol, i guess i left this page open awhile, good advice guys.

 

[redmerc]

About dry hits. RealMac is right. You WILL get dry hits, but the worse thing to put off a starting vapor is what I call a partially dry hit. You will still get lots of vapor and 80 to 90% normal flavour of the juice, but that extra 10 or 20% is wick or tank and who knows what.

The reason this is bad is you may think that the way the juice actually tastes. This was happening to me at first and I didn't even know it. This can really put you off vaping, or at the very least think a good juice is bad. Without a benchmark you won't know what it's supposed to taste like.

 

[DemonCleaner]

Get this kit. It's a good price here. Joye eGo Starter Kit | Joye eGo | Gentlemens Reserve or this kit if it ever comes back in stock eGo Riva 650 or 1100mAh Black w/gold band or Stainless
And these Boge Low Resistance Cartomizer 5 Pack
That is all.

 

[Cokeybill]

Most that use the Ego T have had their troubles from inexperience of how to use it. There are also the problems that previous posters have stated. Those are mostly caused by knock offs. Many here agree with the fact that Ego T knock offs are inferior to an original Joyetech brand sold by many Canadian vendors. Some say that knock offs make no difference, but I totally disagree. You only pay for what you get. I've had my Joyetech Ego T (1000mah batts)(NicFitNation in B.C.) since July/2011 and never had a leak. It's all in how you fill the tanks and vape. They also have the 510 threading that allow you to use other solutions on the batteries. Pretty simple solution for vaping, although there are some that have had their moments with Knock offs. I prefer Joyetech, not the Joy or Joye items that are readily available. The word Joy and Joye are used to copy the Joyetech brands. I believe Joyetech only have the 650mah and the 1000mah batteries. That is one way of acknowledging a real Joyetech battery. The world of vaping will cause you a brain overload, so do your research in the forum first before moving on. GL

 

[slojas]

My personal recommendation for a starter kit according to my own experience to date.
(Items from Canvape)
Fat boy 1300Mah 3.7v 510 thread battery (like a beefy, simplified ego)
5 pack of Boge LR 2ohm cartomizers
Ego usb rapid charger(works on the fatboy)

That setup would cost about 30 bucks before shipping, the battery lasts all day and is compatible with all ohms, the Boge LR's work great and the charger works perfectly on the fatboy.

Further accessories-
SD keyring for stealth vaping, Boge LR compatible, 300MaH battery, charger included (the 510 mega batt is 280MaH for comparison)
510 Ego adapter, to fit Ego style skirted carts, the 510 to 510 extender will work too.
Ego cone, put on adapter with carto for a sleeker look on the Fat boy(I used a small tire from my sons Lego to fill the gap and give the cone a thread stop, it looks like it was made to be there too).
If you own a cell phone then you already own a USB wall adapter so I'll skip that.

That adds an extra 25 bucks for a total of about $55 before shipping and taxes, that will give you a strong trouble free all-day vape battery that can handle pretty much anything you throw at it and a small back-up to keep in your pocket with all the adapters, chargers and cartimizers included.

After a while you can add a really nice vari voltage unit like the lavatube/knightrider for high voltage vaping (which will be my next step).

 

[slojas]

I'll add this in hopes that it helps.
Things I would buy if I could start over are summed up in the first post.

Things I bought that I didn't need or like
510 kit- battey life, poor output from stock atty,cartriges, would actually vape off both of the batts at the same time to get a good vape.
E-9 kit (808-D2)- replacement parts and accessories are scarce and/or expensive the 808-D1 is a much better choice.
Boge rev 2.1- It generally works great but the bottom feeder system did not meet my expectations and wasn't worth the extra investment.
Clearomizers- they can be a crapshoot, many don't work very well on 3.7v, most leak and spit hot burning fluid onto the tip of the tounge, dry hits, tipping, fragile, gurgly, flooding.
Having good luck with the stardusts though, smoketek dc cartos with outer tanks work well with minor modification(slotting) and higher voltage.
Ego LCD 650 gen1- Never worked properly from day one, a forum search showed many others having similar problems.
Stock 510 cartomizers on 3.7v- cold weak vapes with no flavor.

 

[albertbert]

This again lol.

Don't worry if what you buy is joyetech, its just a brand name, and is a little over priced imo. Joyetech uses the phrase "genuine joyetech" for marketing. It implies other ego's are of lower quality, but that isn't the case. People having problems with T and C systems has nothing to do with whether they are joyetech or not, and if it did, it says nothing about the quality of the batteries. Like i said before, if you want, you can buy a joyetech atty's afterwards and try them if you want.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/257929-fake-ego.html
Read that if you care to see people arguing about this, but i think kanadiankats posts about why non joyetech ego's are not "knockoffs" or "fakes" is relevant.

Whatever you decide, cartomizers are very newbie friendly, and i think you should grab some.

 

[KillFace]

Read this thread.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/286636-need-your-starter-kit-advice.html

We just had this thread a few days ago.

 

[Cokeybill]

If you need some info on Joyetech Ego batts. Check out the thread below. Especially Switched post.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/257929-fake-ego.html

 

[albertbert]

Keep in mind, switched sells Joyetech ego's.

 

[Cokeybill]

His info on the making of custom items is his profession. His living is custom turning, selling Joyetech is just an added portion. PM him and ask him anything about the ecig or mods, he won't steer you anywhere except the truth...same with can cat. Don't know why you would question his ethics.

 

[albertbert]

It has nothing to do with ethics.

 

[cactusgirl]

Hey fourtytwo, is your head swimming yet?! LOL...you will get as many different suggestions as there are folks here. It's important to note that whatever start-up kit you get, you are not limited as to the different components you add on later, since most of them share a 510-threading. In other words, if you get an ego-T kit and decide later that you maybe want to try cartomizers or the eGo-C's, you can mix and match.

 

[Cokeybill]

Then why make the Joyetech statement? He also sells 2 different other PV brands also. Maybe just a post about nothing?

 

[Cokeybill]

Hey fourtytwo, is your head swimming yet?! LOL...you will get as many different suggestions as there are folks here. It's important to note that whatever start-up kit you get, you are not limited as to the different components you add on later, since most of them share a 510-threading. In other words, if you get an ego-T kit and decide later that you maybe want to try cartomizers or the eGo-C's, you can mix and match.

Yup. The joys of 510 threading= options galore.