A bit OT but did you try the infamous dry cotton test yet with Ti on the SX??
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A bit OT but did you try the infamous dry cotton test yet with Ti on the SX??
Hey Steve, I did not but I didn't with the Evolv chip either. The vapor tapers off when I am running dry and I haven't had any scorched cotton yet dripping or in my tanks.
An interesting email message I received earlier today from Vapor Tek USA about some China/Yihi drama...
We really thought all of you would enjoy the drama between P4You and Yihi! We have some really good customers that have privy to a lot of information! We wonder what network will take this an run with it and claim they are the first to know. There is drama in the USA and there is drama in China!!
This is not edited AT ALL!! This is direct from our best customer and advisor!! You know who you are JB!! The gentleman that sent this to us is by far the most knowledgeable person we know in regards to hardware!
An interesting bit of China behind the seen, drama.
Pioneer4U showed the IPv4 in late January with the YiHi 330 chip, but because of miscalculated popularity of the ipv mini, Pionneer4U, and bad production planning + greed, IPv4 production was greatly delayed, to make up for there mistakes (and lies) they the promised the IPv4 will include, temp control, with the yet unreleased YiHi 330 J (temp control chip) but YiHi, purposely delayed production and delivery on the sx330 J so that YiHi own SX mini M class mod with the SX350 J ( temp controlled chip) mod would have the market to itself ( because the temp control programming software is identical, between, 330J-350J) So the reason the IPv4 is so late is a festival of lies and drama between Pioneer, and YiHi, and detrimentally effecting everyone who believed the original bs,
Is the IPv4 (330J) temp controls any good? Well yes, very good in fact, anyone who has used the SX mini M class (350J) already knows it's better than Evolv, it's that good, and don't take my word, PBusardo thumbed the original Evolv dna40, no/down!,
then after extensively testing, thumb upped, the SX mini M class, his quote was, "if this (SX mini M-350J) was the first temp control I ever used, I would of approved of it" { heavily paraphrased} {quoted from the second half of the SX mini M class (350J), review, that got way fewer views}
A interesting side note, YiHi temp control, locks on a resistance of the nickel coils, the very newest issue of the Evolv dna40 now offers there version of this locking feature.
We really thought all of you would enjoy the drama between P4You and Yihi! We have some really good customers that have privy to a lot of information! We wonder what network will take this an run with it and claim they are the first to know. There is drama in the USA and there is drama in China!!
This is not edited AT ALL!! This is direct from our best customer and advisor!! You know who you are JB!! The gentleman that sent this to us is by far the most knowledgeable person we know in regards to hardware!
An interesting bit of China behind the seen, drama.
Pioneer4U showed the IPv4 in late January with the YiHi 330 chip, but because of miscalculated popularity of the ipv mini, Pionneer4U, and bad production planning + greed, IPv4 production was greatly delayed, to make up for there mistakes (and lies) they the promised the IPv4 will include, temp control, with the yet unreleased YiHi 330 J (temp control chip) but YiHi, purposely delayed production and delivery on the sx330 J so that YiHi own SX mini M class mod with the SX350 J ( temp controlled chip) mod would have the market to itself ( because the temp control programming software is identical, between, 330J-350J) So the reason the IPv4 is so late is a festival of lies and drama between Pioneer, and YiHi, and detrimentally effecting everyone who believed the original bs,
Is the IPv4 (330J) temp controls any good? Well yes, very good in fact, anyone who has used the SX mini M class (350J) already knows it's better than Evolv, it's that good, and don't take my word, PBusardo thumbed the original Evolv dna40, no/down!,
then after extensively testing, thumb upped, the SX mini M class, his quote was, "if this (SX mini M-350J) was the first temp control I ever used, I would of approved of it" { heavily paraphrased} {quoted from the second half of the SX mini M class (350J), review, that got way fewer views}
A interesting side note, YiHi temp control, locks on a resistance of the nickel coils, the very newest issue of the Evolv dna40 now offers there version of this locking feature.
To follow on this, what I have determined is this is in fact not a modder board, there are no real modding pinouts and the company does not support modding of any kind on the board.
That's an interesting read, but there is a HUGE technical flaw that blows the whole "drama" conspiracy theory right out of the water.
The IPV4 is NOT using the SX350j chip.
Oooops, that's a heck of a mistake right there. Guess their "most knowledgeable person we know" doesn't know very much at all.
The IPV4 uses the SX330 V4S chip. The IPV4 is a 100W dual battery mod running in series. The voltage is WAY too high for the SX350J to handle. The SX350J has a maximum voltage input of 4.5V and maximum power output of just 60W. It's for single battery or parallel batteries only. It will fry if you put it in a series mod.
You would think a "knowledgeable" hardware person would know that a 100W mod isn't using the SX350J which maxes out at 60W. You should write them back and point out this obvious novice blunder that "JB" made.
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Well that's just not true! The SX350J can run series batteries in wattage mode to 120W
Well the guy was just calling the 330 v4s board a 330 J, but I get your point, if he's so knowledgeable why is he calling the board by the incorrect nomenclature
While they aren't the same board by no means, and that guy wasn't saying they were, the 350J can be run in series.
OK, I stand corrected on that.
However, my point remains. The claim that the IPV4 was delayed because YiHi wanted to keep the SX350J exclusive to their SX Mini and purposely delayed the SX330J, delaying the launch of the IPV4 is just plain false. The IPV4 does not use the SX330J chip at all and was never going to.
The IPV4 wasn't really delayed by more than a couple of weeks. It was only announced in the last week of January with orders from vendors starting at the very end of that month. No shipping date was given. Greenleaf Technologies/Pioneer4You announced at the beginning of April that they still hadn't finalized the box color. Indeed, when it did ship it had a black side cover rather than the gray that they had been showing for months, and the inset screen had become a see-through mirrored cover. The delays were due to changes in the design, not a failure of YiHi to deliver chips. In fact when the IPV4 was first announced in January it wasn't even supposed to have temperature control at all. That feature wasn't announced until March.
When you say SX330J are you referring to the SX330 -V4S? I can't find a SX330J on Yihi's web site...
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I may be missing something obvious but I don't think anyone in the email you quoted was claiming the IPV4 used the 350J chip.
You aren't missing anything. CompletelyAverages "point" is completely invalid.
I think what he's referencing is the email references a 330j chip for the IPV4, Which there is no 330j chip in existence. The IPV4 uses a SX330 V4S I believe. I think it was just whoever wrote the email just transposed that to SX330j for some reason. I think that's what he is saying idk could be wrong.
storm in a teacup! If Yihi choose to delay supply of the V4S to P4Y that is their prerogative. It is risky and bad business practise but it happens. The alternative is that P4Y bigged up the release date of a device that was not ready to ship. Some of the errors and faults described already make it clear that is true, at least to some extent. In truth its probably a combination of both. Either way, there is nothing to see here I reckon. Lets move on and back OT!!
Haven't really looked at specs in quite a while on these but I believe the 330 series chips don't have quite the features or quite the accuracy of the 350 series chips. Still a decent chipset historically that's been used in a lot of different mods over the last year or so just not quite as good as the 350 series. Had to unsubscribe from twisted as I often watch videos with my kid's around and don't really like them hearing the language.
Ha ha, yeah that is true with him. But he is fun to watch. The YIHI SX330 v4S is a good chip for the price and will get you decent TC too but I compare it more to the Wal*Mart brand compare to the SX350J. Not a bad choice if you are on a budget, or need a throw around 2nd or 3rd mod, but not all the features of the SX350J.
Matt with Suck My Mod just did one too which may be a little better with kids around, but he can get dicey too.
If YiHi deliberately delayed shipment of a chip to P4U the chances of them telling anyone, including P4U, are close to zero. From what I've observed YiHi is very persnickety about the people with whom they share information and it is done without any hint of gossip. The email just looks to me like the normal, totally useless misinformation one sees spewed forth on a perpetual basis from China sales reps who are at the bottom of the food chain.
I am puzzled that a vendor would send an email admitting that they rely on a customer for technical competence as well as knowledge concerning a Chinese manufacturer with whom they do business. Perhaps their time would be more wisely spent sharpening their own tech skills and learning how best cope with the reality that miscalculation on P4U's part seems to be part and parcel doing business with them.
I am on the fence on buying a sx350j or waiting for evolv's newest creation. TP accuracy and chip reliability are my top concerns and the fact that the sx350j is not modder friendly really leaves me wanting to wait for the next TP advancement. I believe they are both good boards as i have dna30 dna40 devices, but I wish evolv would add updating via usb on their new boards. Tempted to get the sxj just so i can compare it to dna 40.
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