You actually get a throat hit from the RN4081 (Smoking Everywhere Gold)

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dumwaldo

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Sit back and relax, this is going to be a long post. For the folks from Long Island that are familiar with Roosevelt Field and Sunrise malls, this should be a very entertaining read.

Last Christmas I fulfilled a promise to my wife and made my first ever attempt at quitting smoking. I did so with the Chantix pills. you are supposed to take them for a week while you smoke so it was January 1 that I smoked my very last cigarette.

The first three weeks were not so bad but during the fourth week everything changed. The pills just stopped working and I was about ready to loose it. I was on the edge of buying a pack of cigarettes and instead decided to get an electronic cigarette.

I knew about them from an episode of the television show 'The Doctors' and I know someone through a work related thing that had one and I had seen him 'smoking' it.

Looking at the SE website, there is an 800 number that I could call to find out the nearest brick and mortar location where I could go buy one. When I called the 800 number they informed me the ONLY place on Long Island was the Roosevelt Field Mall.

My closest friend works close to there so I called him and explained that I was loosing it and needed him to go to the mall and get me one of these things and bring it home with him. I am in Amityville so that mall was a bit of a hike and this was more convenient for me. He was good enough to oblige and about an hour later he was at my door with booty in hand.

He bought me one and he bought himself one plus he had 6 boxes of cartridges that they threw in so he gave me three of those too. The exact price he paid is still an unknown to me and in the insterests of friendship it will remain an unknown till the day I die but I gave him $150 because that is what the website said the price was. (ironically the website was pricing the 2.0 and I got the GOLD but they turned out to be the same price so it is a moot point)

Well the SE GOLD pulled me back from the edge and saved me from 'analogs'. I know a lot of people think $150 is a rip off price but the salvation it supplied me was worth it ten fold. Charging that price through the website with drastically reduced overhead is a bit obscene but to pay those prices at a brick and mortar location is really not that crazy.

I ordered more supplies through the website but I was not entirely clear on everything and I got 2.0 supplies. I ended up making a trip or two back to Roosevelt Field for support gear before I finally got my lazy a** in gear to return the old stuff and get GOLD stuff from the website. So far I am only using cartridges and I am even throwing them out when I am done with them because I do not yet know about liquids and refilling on my own.

Now here is an interesting bit of information about the Roosevelt Field Mall kiosk's (there are 2 of them). They will bargain with you if you are good at bargaining. They do charge $55 for atomizers but if you are persistant they will reduce the price to $35. That is what they did for me and I would only consider myself to be average at bargaining. Obviously this is another moot point as they can still be had cheaper online. But so far I have only dealt with official SE outlets.

Well one night I run into a friend and he too has an SE GOLD. He tells me that he gets stuff for his at Sunrise Mall which is so close I could WALK there in about 10 miinutes. He also tells me that they have vials of liquids instead of boxes of cartridges.

The next day I head over to the mall and low and behold there it is, a kiosk dead center of the mall and it has a whole bunch of stuff, not just SE stuff. Just like I was told, they have liquid in vials. Not only that but they have much better prices on the hardware. The same kit that SE was selling for $150, this guy was selling for $120. As if that was not enough, they even had a wider selection of starter kits than the website did.

The kiosks in Sunrise Mall, South Shore Mall, Smithhaven Mall and Walt Whitman Mall are all operated by the same company. The InLife company runs them all.

This is the rundown of the three different starter kits that Smoking Everwhere makes and the prices InLife is charging in the malls.

Kit #1 - $80
1 battery
1 atomizer
10 carts (high)
USB Charger

Kit #2 - $120
2 batteries
1 atomizer
5 carts (high)
wall charger

Kit #3 - $150
2 batteries
1 atomizer
30 carts (10 high, 10 med, 10 low)
wall charger

All are official Smoking Everwhere products or REMARKABLY good bootlegs with perfectly identical packaging.

So anyway, I start getting liquids from the guy at Sunrise Mall. He sells liquids in 10ml eye dropper bottles for $25. I pay that much a couple of times then start bargaining and I get my price down to $20. That goes on for a bit till I finally stumble across this forum and I start lurking.

I came across the foum looking up health related information and I am very glad I did. I did not expect to find such a 'busy community' with so much information available and so many alternatives. I am still a way noob right now. I only have disposable cigar and some liquids coming in the mail so far.

I am in the process of of looking for an alternative to the SE GOLD but the more I look the more I believe my SE GOLD is on par with or better than any other e-ciggarette option available.

So far the only real downside I have to complain about with my SE GOLD is the cartridges REALLY need a slim tip that is easier to grip with teeth. If I keep my SE GOLD sticking out of my mouth where I used to 'carry' an analog it forces my front teeth to be so open I can fit my pinky finger in between my top and botom teeth.

Of all the things said in this thread I think the best advice offered is the guy that said to pop the cap off the back und of the cartridge. I find this very simple little thing can make a tremendous difference in performance.

Without the end cap the draw is much easier and the volume of vapor is greater and the throat hit is easier to achieve.

One other thing I try to be mindfull of is how I carry my e-cig. I do my best to try and not carry it with the cartridge side up since that could allow liquid to run down through the atomizer and into the battery.

All my parts, except 1 battery, are working great, even my two and a half month old atomier that I temporarily thought I killed trying to smoke pot is working great. The only exception is the battery that acts up and does not always switch off. It is just a matter of time and opportunity till I get to Roosevelt Field and I am confident they will replace my battery at no charge.

DW
 

Shadowdr

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A lot of good stuff here, I am glad that I am not the only one who likes the 4081. I got my N-Pro starter kit at a truck stop for 69.00. I liked the original cartridges and got two more 10 packs over the next ten days, but have since got a 50ml bottle of juice to refill my 25 carts. I have added glycerin to the juice for more smoke and better hit as well as some flavor additives. I am considering getting the Pewee for some extra parts and the black would look better in public places not to mention enough fresh batteries.
 

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I just wanted to throw out a thanks to everyone on this thread. I too got taken at the mall and wasn't really all that satisfied with how the 4081 was working and just about pitched it in the drawer. When I found this site and saw all the bad reviews for the SE e-cig it made it worse since I didn't understand that there were so many different models and I was really ready to give up until I found this thread and realized this model was working for people so I read more and found out the biggest problem was with how I was using the thing. If I hadn't found this thread I might not have looked into it further and now I am glad I did. Now I just feel a little dumb about over paying. Unfortunately I didn't figure things out in time to have a shipment of liquid in my hands before the carts ran dry (the last one was a dud anyway) so I am on the analogs for another couple of days but I look forward to what this thing can do for real and possible dumping a 25 year tobacco habit. Anyway Long story short THANKS.

On a side note has anyone noticed any leaking after 'pulling the plug' on these carts. I didn't try it in time to really test it but it seems like that makes a big difference but also might make it easier for the fluid to leak.
 

gatsby

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Leaking from where?

BTW, don't worry about having paid too much. Let it go and vape on!!

When I popped the cap off of a coupe of carts there was some liquid pooled in there. I suppose this is probably just condensation from pulling vapor through the larger hole and then the smaller one, but I was wondering if the cap keeps any liquid from leaking out. Also has anyone found out if carts from any particular place hold more or are they pretty standard for each device?
 
When I popped the cap off of a coupe of carts there was some liquid pooled in there. I suppose this is probably just condensation from pulling vapor through the larger hole and then the smaller one, but I was wondering if the cap keeps any liquid from leaking out. Also has anyone found out if carts from any particular place hold more or are they pretty standard for each device?

Seems to be that you are storing your e-cig the wrong way. You're not suppose to have a pool of liquid in there. It may leak down to the battery and cause your switch to jam up.

When you are not using your e-cig, it is best to store it in a horizontal position. This will avoid having liquid seep out from the cart down to the atomizer and eventually your battery. If you keep it in your pocket for example, vertically when not in use, the liquid from the cart will continue to seep out onto the atomizer. To much of it might cause your atomizer to clog up. Next scenario after that is the risk of it seeping into your battery as I mentioned before.

When not in use, store it horizontally. This will stop the "pool" of fluid.

I chose not to use the carts anymore but instead to drip 2-3 drops of fluid directly on the atomizer when I'm going to vape. Not only is this the equilvalent of 1 analog cig (which keeps me from overvaping like I used to when I did use carts) but also I do not need to worry about how I store my e-cig in my pockets. It is also a means of getting a better throat hit and vapor. I use PS menthol and I love the results.

Also, overnight, it is a good idea to drain your atomizers. Before you go to bed, place them upside down on a piece of tissue paper and let the fluid drain out over night. This will keep your atomizer from clogging before it's time.

As far as the cart size, it is pretty much the same with all the RN4081 models.
 

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I use PS menthol and I love the results.

If Max The Biker can "come out" with loving menthol, then anyone can :D

I've been following your comments on your SE Gold. I also thought I had been ripped off, but in time I've grown to like it (the SE, not being ripped off). I agree that dripping works very well, although the gurgle noise is a bit of a drawback.

I think that there is a knack to using the insert though. The mesh on my vaporiser is oblong, like the end of the insert. If you line the long sides up when you insert it, it seems to work better.
 
The Liberation Jr. is also among the 4081 group. I <3 mine, and use it as my daily vaper.

P.S. I also carry replacement parts (atomizers & batteries) if anyone was searching..

I have a SmokeANYWHERE (not everywhere) model 8097 (looks like reg cigarette and thin) Do you have or know where to get etra atomizers?
 

Kimpetuous

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A lot of people mention that they have to draw hard. The mouthpiece end of my carts have a end cap with a single tiny hole. I have a tiny screwdriver in my kit, and use it to pop the end cap off. With the end cap off, there is a about a 1/4" recess, and another somewhat larger hole. It's much easier to draw with the end cap removed.

I popped it off and it changed my life. What a difference, plus now it's like a Parliament (my ex-brand). A million and one thanks!!! :lol:
 

ritalee76

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I was unaware that being a menthol smoker/vaper was something to be in the closet about. I smoke menthols and used to smoke Newports and they helped me get in touch with my inner black-man


LOL at work, a couple of the white guys smoke menthols... then the cigarette bum goes around and asks who has "white people" cigarettes LOL
 

dibbyb

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I popped it off and it changed my life. What a difference, plus now it's like a Parliament (my ex-brand). A million and one thanks!!! :lol:

An "AHA" moment when I read about the end cap. Took me a while to figure out what they were talking about. Here's a picture.
 

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dumwaldo

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Yes, the purpose of end caps appears to be to create a reservoir to keep liquid from seeping out the mouth piece.

IMHO they do not do what they are intended to do well enough and instead just inhibit the ability to draw through them. I find a better solution to be simply do not overfill carts.

But then again I drip the atomizer 90% of the time and rarely even use carts so I could be entirely wrong and not realize it because I do not use carts often enough.

DW
 
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