You all want answers? Look to the Vets!

[plantlvr]

I've only been vaping for 50 days so I consider myself a noobie too. But I wish all of us noobs would listen to the Vets of vaping.Go to the Vetrens Forum and read the thread 'Enough is Enough', very enlightening. You can't post there[ it is the Vets forum after all ], but they have a wealth of info on their forum and I think it's about time that we listen more to them then people claiming to be 'experts' on the whole ecig phenomenon. Just my 2 cents.

 

[k lady]

Yes, I just read that thread, too. Would love to ask them what they're using for cart mods - they CAN'T be happy with the standard packing. They were alluding to someone suggesting human hair 8-o and I was hoping to find that thread just to "see it to believe it."

Maybe they could start an "Ask the Vet" forum where we could learn from these august vapers!

 

[Ltracher]

I am trying to get my post count up so I can post a photo so someone will be able to tell me the model I have. A freind gave it to me but there is nothing in the papers that say a brand or a model number. She said she paid about $60 for it. Its a 3 peice about the size of a 100 cigarette.

 

[Piedlourde]

I've spoken with some vets and one said that whenever they tried to answer a new person's question they were blown off or ignored in favor of someone "newer" with a high post count and/or a big mouth.

They did not elaborate, but it seems they are a tad bitter.

 

[plantlvr]

Yes, I just read that thread, too. Would love to ask them what they're using for cart mods - they CAN'T be happy with the standard packing. They were alluding to someone suggesting human hair 8-o and I was hoping to find that thread just to "see it to believe it."

Maybe they could start an "Ask the Vet" forum where we could learn from these august vapers!

Yeah sombody posted in the modders forum using her hair as a filler for her cart!
And I really do hope the ECF forum founder will have a 'ask the vets' forum cus ECF really needs it!

 

[plantlvr]

I've spoken with some vets and one said that whenever they tried to answer a new person's question they were blown off or ignored in favor of someone "newer" with a high post count and/or a big mouth.

They did not elaborate, but it seems they are a tad bitter.

I don't think 'bitter' is how they feel, it's just that this whole ecig thing has grown so fast, there is a lot of noobs acting like they know it all. We don't want the FDA to ban ecigs but with too much misinformation and crazy 'experts' mucking it all up, it could happen.

 

[Luv2CUSmile]

Plantlvr,

It was HIS hair- LOL Hey, if it works for him...
I like KL's idea...
Ask a Vet Forum- or at least a thread... If they would participate...
I have only been at this a bit over a month- I have quite a few posts but still learn things everyday- I have been doing this long enough to have developed my own likes and dislikes and I have my own opinions on equipment and what have you- But, for those who have used many models over a period of time... It speaks for itself... Not to mention, healthwise, how they feel now, for the ones who had to break the analog habit slowly, what finally did it for them, etc etc...
A great idea, again, if they would participate AND if it were only open to true Vets of e-cigs... they should have to pass a questionaire or something- LOL

 

[kristin]

I can't even SEE the veterans forum. I have 3 more months before I qualify. I don't get why you guys can even see it, either.

 

[AmyinAVL]

Hey Plantlvr,

Looking for that forum. Would love to learn from those who have gone before me. Searched for "veteran's forum" and "enough is enough" but couldn't find the thread. Any other pointers you could give to get me to that thread would be greatly appreciated. I've been smoke-free and vaping now with the help of a friend who bought a kit for me. She's a month ahead of me being smoke-free and we both feel like we're groping in the dark at times trying to learn how to keep this up long term. Also want to hook up our smoking friends who are eager to follow in our footsteps. We know that we "don't know much" and would prefer to point them in the direction of those who have so much more to offer in terms of knowledge about vaping. Thanks for this thread.

 

[k lady]

I can't even SEE the veterans forum. I have 3 more months before I qualify. I don't get why you guys can even see it, either.

I couldn't either, Kristin, until I paid to become a "Supporting Member." Haven't tried to post there, just enjoy reading some of the threads. The forum appears just below "Tips."

 

[Piedlourde]

Well, I was referring to a single individual and using the term "they" instead of a singular gender specific pronoun.

There are many vets, like Tropical Bob and others that have tried every model, every juice, every new and improved gadget and their experience would be extremely helpful to the forum.

Perhaps there will be a subforum like that one day. It surely is needed.

 

[jongleur]

I don't think 'bitter' is how they feel, it's just that this whole ecig thing has grown so fast, there is a lot of noobs acting like they know it all. We don't want the FDA to ban ecigs but with too much misinformation and crazy 'experts' mucking it all up, it could happen.

I think part of the problem is that a lot of people tend to make a quasi-religion of their favorite PV -- just like the age-old Mac vs PC vs *nix religious wars; or also for those who remember, the GIF vs JPG wars. Also a few certain vendors here have somehow developed a bit of a cultish following with the same results.

Another aspect is the "forum-tenure" BS, where real-life experience and common sense count for little, and the post-count digits to the left count for a lot.

PVs are exploding in popularity, and with that, some of the hordes found in abundance in, for example, the comment sections of YouTube have been starting to appear in this forum. That's just the way things go, though. I remember when home computers were new, and the BBSs and magazines dedicated to them were chock-full of friendly, helpful, enthusiastic, and informative people. The personal computer scene has, umm, "evolved" quite a bit since those days, and the same is happening with the PV/e-cig. Me, I'm not along for this ride for the flavor of revolution or cliquishness, or even love and belonging, I'm here for the flavor of vapor and information -- two of my favorite things in life. To each their own though....

As far as the FDA and government agencies are concerned, I really don't think this group of vaping humans as a whole can be sculpted into any special-interest-favorable veneer, regardless of the best intentions of those who would like to put a best face forward to the world. I'm glad to know there are people among us trying to work out good public relations, but at the same time: what is, is. I'm one for celebrating that.

--John

 

[jongleur]

Well, I was referring to a single individual and using the term "they" instead of a singular gender specific pronoun.

There are many vets, like Tropical Bob and others that have tried every model, every juice, every new and improved gadget and their experience would be extremely helpful to the forum.

Perhaps there will be a subforum like that one day. It surely is needed.

If I'm not mistaken, the New Person's sub-forum is supposed to function like that -- and to some degree at least, it does. I've noticed (and I hope he doesn't mind my calling out his name) that Kent (whom I would consider a veteran vaper) quite frequently answers newb's questions, both informatively and dispassionately.

I liked the idea of a new "Ask a Veteran" sub-forum when I first saw it in this thread; but really, on second thought, I think we already have it.

--John

 

[Kent C]

If I'm not mistaken, the New Person's sub-forum is supposed to function like that -- and to some degree at least, it does.

I think you're right. And also sometimes (and this has been requested on occasion) that newbies want to here from other newbies or semi newbies as well. It's like the 3 year old paying more attention to the 4 and 5 year olds in the park rather than the 12 and 13 year olds. I always tried to play chess with someone better than I was ;-) I lost a lot, lol, but gained a lot too.

I've noticed (and I hope he doesn't mind my calling out his name) that Kent (whom I would consider a veteran vaper) quite frequently answers newb's questions, both informatively and dispassionately.

I liked the idea of a new "Ask a Veteran" sub-forum when I first saw it in this thread; but really, on second thought, I think we already have it.

--John

Appreciate your comments and don't mind at all. From the recent poll it looks like the explosion occurred just as I was joining (I lurked for a while first) or just after and I learned so much this summer and beyond from Spikey, Just Julie, Rat ith, Parked, Hellen, wv2win, Tropical Bob, Mary Kay, Kate (without a number) and the Kate's with numbers ... 51 ;-) Jim Davis, Sun, trog, Keef, Wiz, et. al. (Never list like that you'll miss someone important ;-) I considered they 'saved my life' (or at least extended it). I don't always agree with them either and I'm not always right when I don't, lol, but I learn something in the exchange. That's how free speech works.

You want to learn about juice? ... read all of kinabaloo and Nick O'Teen's posts. Just did that last week. Batteries? Read trog. Any device? - read JD and T.Bob, then ask some questions....

 

[Deschain]

Us noobs will generally recommend the model we use/have had some success with, mainly because we can answer some questions about it/give a few tips...no use somebody like me saying "go for an 801" or whatever, I don't know anything about them.

I've never claimed to be an expert about anything for the record, I have tried to help other noobs because this forum helped me...it's just a case of trying to put something back into the community IMO.


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[Keef]

May I suggest if/when you have the time you start here and work your way back.
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Before anyone thinks I am taking the pi$$ that is exactly what I did and I learned a lot without one singel post, there is a lot of info buried in 2008 and early 2009 .

 

[Jim Davis]

A new person stating his experience with his e-cig is very good information for others.

What I frown upon, is folks who tell someone they bought "Junk", and then tell them to trash it & buy another model. With patience and understanding, any e-cig can be made to work. Maybe not as well as others, but well enough to become familiar with the process.

I recommend to take an undesirable model that you have bought, learn to use it, make a choice to keep it or not, and put it away as a back-up if you don't like it as well as another. You may not like it as much as another, but it could save your .... if you run into a problem with your regular e-cig.

We're all here for a common cause. Bashing anothers choice will not get us any further ahead.

 

[frogbmth]

What I frown upon, is folks who tell someone they bought "Junk", and then tell them to trash it & buy another model.

Agreed but also beware of anybody telling you what to buy. People tend to forget to answer in line with the OP's needs in mind - more often they go by their own

 

[Starlight]

Before anyone thinks I am taking the pi$$ that is exactly what I did and I learned a lot without one singel post, there is a lot of info buried in 2008 and early 2009 .

That was also exactly what I did when I first started lurking at the end of last year before I joined. There's a whole wealth of very useful help and information there!

A new person stating his experience with his e-cig is very good information for others.

Yes, indeed. I think one may also need to bear in mind that the new person may not necessarily have tried any other e-cig, and so hasn't a comparison to make with a different one which they might have found better or worse for their own personal tastes had they also tried a different model.

Agreed but also beware of anybody telling you what to buy. People tend to forget to answer in line with the OP's needs in mind - more often they go by their own

I wholeheartedly agree here too. What one person is looking for in an e-cig may not be what someone else is looking for. Not everybody's tastes or needs are the same.

Another thing I'm sometimes wary of are reviews (depending on who does them). Often, it seems reviews are made within hours, or maybe a day or two, of getting the e-cig. So it therefore can't always provide an accurate description of how the e-cig performs after any length of time or how reliable the e-cig is in the long term.

 

[jj2]

I can't even SEE the veterans forum. I have 3 more months before I qualify. I don't get why you guys can even see it, either.

I can't see it either and would like to know why???????