Your recipe ingredient constraints?

[OpenUpShop]

Hello-

I was wondering how many of y'all avoid concentrates with warnings attached to them(Acetoin, Diacetyl, etc) when making your own juice??

I ask cuz most of the top rated recipes on E-Liquid-Recipes use concentrates with those "should be avoided ingredients." Sometimes you can use an alternative such as Capella V2 or TPA DX flavors, but it's hit or miss as many of those taste diff.

I've been making my own for a few years now but recently decided to try some new recipes and it hit me to ask what most of y'all do running into this issue.

Would love to hear your takes...

 

[Izan]

I do not exceed 10% total flavoring.

Cheers
I

 

[Letitia]

I don't worry about it honestly. I seldom use any flavor over 3%; and most are closer to 0.3-2%.

 

[OpenUpShop]

I do not exceed 10% total flavoring.

I don't worry about it honestly. I seldom use any flavor over 3%; and most are closer to 0.3-2%.

Thank you folks. The flavoring in most of my batches are 5% -10% in total, but I do vape a lot, all day.

Had always read from others in the forums that Acetoin, Diacetyl, etc should be avoided. Just sucks that there's no long term studies on any these things, with vaping still being a fairly new phenomena relatively speaking.

 

[Letitia]

Keep in mind we mix using miniscule amounts in our juices, literally we just use a few drops. For myself it just isn't worth the stress to worry about imo. All I know for a fact is that I'm healthier and happier not smoking; on top of that the "badies" in a few drops of juice haven't given me any issues health wise in nearly 10y of vaping. It is your choice what to/or not to avoid. I'm positive you can find plenty of recommendations here about substitutes if you want to explore your options.

 

[Izan]

Thank you folks. The flavoring in most of my batches are 5% -10% in total, but I do vape a lot, all day.

Had always read from others in the forums that Acetoin, Diacetyl, etc should be avoided. Just sucks that there's no long term studies on any these things, with vaping still being a fairly new phenomena relatively speaking.

Find a risk level where you are comfortable.

"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison." —Paracelsus, 1538

Cheers
I

 

[smacuser]

All I want to know is how you were able to type E-Liquid-Recipes.

 

[Letitia]

All I want to know is how you were able to type E-Liquid-Recipes.

I've noticed that they are more relaxed if we don't put our toes too far over that invisible line.

 

[englishmick]

There were a couple of TFA flavors I used a lot for which they brought out DX versions. I tried them but they just didn't taste as good. I decided then not to worry about it.

The diacetyl problem was so fuzzy. The horrible lung disease associated with it involved workers breathing in huge quantities of it all day, And one guy who ate nothing but microwave corn every day for years. There really wasn't any evidence that the tiny quantities we use would cause a problem. Like the cream was just one ingredient in the mix, and diacetyl wasn't even a major ingredient in that flavoring. I saw breakdowns showing 1% of diacetyl in the flavoring, which was maybe 2% of the juice. You would need a really huge microscope to spot the diacetyl going into your lungs. Do we even know if the naughty chemicals survive being heated on your coil. I eat food full of horrible preservatives, breath polluted air and CO from the gas stove,

 

[somdcomputerguy]

None of the few flavors that I add sometimes to my mix don't contain Diacetyl (which is in fact a natural chemical), and even if any of them did I wouldn't lose a second of sleep about it. Cigarettes have a much much higher amount of that chemical than any e-juice ever did. Yet vaping was quickly attributed to Popcorn Lung, not smoking.

 

[jambi]

I tried all the "DX/V2" flavors years ago and never liked any of them. Been vaping DIY since 2014, never avoided the flavors with Diacetyl, Acetoin and Acetyl Propionyl, and by this point I'm sure I've vaped enough of the stuff that it would have harmed me by now if it had the potential to. That's not to say any of it is safe, or I endorse ignoring the warnings. Just that I myself ignored them and haven't lived to regret it. Pure and simple, vaping saved me from an early death from smoking. Maybe I'll have to eat those words sometime in the 20 odd years I have left, but I kind of doubt it.

As to the question, I try to stay under 12% flavoring when crafting, but I still regularly vape a lot of old standbys from the days when 20% wasn't a shocking amount of flavoring. I think that's just reflective of there being far better quality flavorings now, like Flavorah, than what was the norm back then.