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uba egar320

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Yeah, just the one in the back and occasionally the front pin if you want to completely break it down into a compact size. Invest in aerosol cleaner and an old toothbrush for cleaning the hard to reach places. Cleaning the bolt was the biggest PITA problem I had with mine. Lube it up heavy, and clean in as soon as you can after shooting. Once it dries out, it seems like you do more chiseling than cleaning deposits off it.

Aerosol cleaners work great. Just lube that sucker up good after. They dry the holy hell out of it.
 

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The problem is, I've had to throw away most of our toothbrushes over the past 6 months because it's getting harder to find a simple toothbrush anymore. And none of the new ones fit in my toothbrush holders!!!!!! @#$%^ But yeah, my grandpa taught me that when he made me tear apart a carburetor for the first time. I've still got a surplus, but damn the new ones anyway! :laugh:
 

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They you should know the 'other' use for the toothbrush handle. Cut, file, shape it into a light duty pry tool or drift punch, whey you get really good (or bored), you could even try a little skrimshaw! :D I had a hillbilly uncle that could make a working phillips head screwdriver out of a toothbrush handle. If he threw something away, it had already served at least 3 different purposes and was disintegrating. He was the first person I ever saw make a 'cornflake head gasket' out of a cereal box. Macguyver had nothing on that man!
 

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I just don't understand all the ergonomics that are needed in a toothbrush. Really? Comfort grip? Non-slip strips? What? Quit sissifying my toothbrushes already. I guess they would make for a narrow knife blade, but cigarette butts make tougher blades than them, I'm sure - plus, you can get a good, sharp edge. I moved past that and use a folding razor knife. 200 new blades in my pocket. The tips break too easily though.

:thumbs: on the cereal box gasket! I don't see why that wouldn't work for a great deal of time. My family saved containers. That's what's in my blood. Something to put something in. I've got too much of that stuff now. :facepalm:
 

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Now you know why they dye gaskets black now. It's the same basic material but with a little silicone impregnated into them now. I still experiment occasionally with soaking cardboard in different chems and then seeing how they react with RTV. It doesn't replace some gaskets now due to the need for o-rings, but I'm trying...
 
For 22 handguns, thats pretty easy- the Ruger Single SIx- old west style so only 6 rounds, but revolver so no jams. It also comes with 2 different cylinders, one is a 22LR, 22short and the other is 22 magnum. It was the first handgun I gave to my son. Heritage makes a version of the same thing as well.

For semi-auto, theres the Ruger mark III, the walther you mentioned, glock makes one (not a fan of glocks) but for me, when it comes to 22 handguns, I go for the revolvers.

The obvious pros to the semis is the option to have extra magazines, but I have a couple 45's and a 9mm that I buy extra mags for. Having 5 extra mags for a 22 handgun, to me, is a waste of weight.

The pro for the Ruger or Heritage is that you can change cylinders, making the handgun more versatile.

This is just my opinion.
 

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I honestly like both the revolver and Mk II/III but I lean towards the Mk II/III. I've never had one jam and they're super accurate and intuitive to shoot. I did look at a Walther 22 this week (on sale), but the fit and finish of the safety along with the awkward mag release being part of the lower trigger guard, put me off them.
 

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After I did a little more online research, I realized a couple things that I didn't think of in the store. First of all, I hate stores. Usually because of the people who are working there. If there are nice people working there, I will probably turn into that annoying guy that comes around all the time, but I could swear the girl behind the counter was 2 hours clean from some funny little pipe.

First realization. The Walther was really light. That might sound good for carrying it around for long distances, but thinking back, it was just too light. I learned to shoot a handgun with my grandpa's Ruger. (My grandpa taught me some fun lessons. He told me once . . . keep your hand(s) down here. I didn't. I got bit. He gave me "that look". I learned.) Anyway, I don't think that a light gun would feel right when pulling it up to aim. I faintly remember a safety course I took, and my worst grouping was with this tiny gun - don't remember what it was. I think I would prefer the extra couple ounces.

Second realization. The Walther is really small. I'm only 5' 7", but it is still small. I thought this would have been a good thing for my son, but he's really not that small, and I was around his age when I used my grandpa's Ruger, so I don't know why I was thinking this would be a good one. Looking back, I think it felt more like a toy.

Also, I just joined Northwest Firearms Community - NorthwestFirearms.com. The forum set-up is pretty much the same as here. Looks interesting. Nice local classifieds too. Just something the PNW folks might be interested in.
 
I still like the interchangeable cylinders, 1 gun, 3 different ammo types. 22lr/22short and 22mag. I am still a huge fan of the ruger 10/22 rifle though.

22's are still one of the best BOB weapons. Even though I have a 45 on my side, in my BOB there is a 22 revolver with 2 cylinders and enough ammo to get by for a while. Honestly. the only downside to the 22 is the brass is not re-loadable, but i dont reload brass anyways, so its a wash.
 

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I LOVE my MKII but there are some very valid points to the mutt mans views as well. It all boils down to whet feels best to you. I am still looking hard at the Kel-Tec PMR-30 myself just cause I love the 22mag. Just haven't been able to put my hands on one to see how it feels. 22mag hand gun with a 30 round magazine sounds great to me though!
 

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I would really hate to get something that felt great only to have it jam and send it back for a replacement part in the middle of the zombie apocalypse. "Hang on guys, it should be back in 7 to 10 business days." :laugh: I'm actually finding a lot of people both praising and complaining about the Walther. Praising how quickly they got it fixed, and complaining that they had to get it fixed. No thanks . . . I think I'll move on.

At least I'm a little closer. I just got a safe today.
 

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OK so just a little update.
This is my EDC and the one I take in a SHTF scenario. Looking to get another just like it. Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm. LOVE this piece!

Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
 

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I did some pistol shooting a couple days ago and came to a few conclusions. First, I need more training with a pistol :(, second and more importantly, confidence in your weapon does make a difference.
The reason I was there in the first place was to help a friend pick out a birthday present for himself. He was trying to decide between a Ruger GP 100 and the S&W 686, both 4" in .357 mag. Both are good pistols with the Ruger having about a $150 price advantage plus adjustable front sight (windage). He was leaning heavily towards the Ruger. We both shot about an equal number of rounds through them and 'he' (meaning my friend) did quite well with both of them. Certainly well within acceptable accuracy for both. Should be a clear case to buy the cheaper one right? Wrong! Before we'd gone to the range, I'd mentioned that S&W had a long tradition of making quality pistols while Ruger was my clear choice for anything .22LR. This stuck in his head during our range time (oops!) and he 'felt' that the Smith was just 'better' somehow. I knew exactly what he was talking about but couldn't get him to vocalize 'what' was different between the two. He said 'it just feels better'. I said 'what does?', and he said 'everything'. He'd previously said he liked the heftier feel of the Ruger since it looked like it was more robustly built. He then flipped and said the Smith felt easier to handle. Now the Smith is 3 oz heavier than the Ruger! In my opinion, the Smith was slightly smoother on double action and was slightly quicker to point of aim. But not $150 worth. As we were leaving the range, I told him I was impressed with the Ruger and he was right. He looked at me and said "Damn you! I was ready to buy the Ruger before I shot the Smith but I can't buy the Ruger knowing the Smith is better! I just know it'll be in the back of my mind every time I miss a shot that the Smith might not have. Thanks..." I started laughing and pointed out that he shot about equal with both of them and he could put the $150 towards another gun, but he won't budge on the Smith now where I'm actually considering getting a Ruger. I'd bet money that if we repeated the test at the range again, the Smith would have nice tight groups and the Ruger would suddenly start jumping all over the paper. :D

Lesson to take from this: Shoot what you're comfortable with. If you have any doubts, it'll show up when you can least afford it!
 
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Are you spying on me? And if so, where can I get the program to do this? :laugh: Currently watching: YouTube - Bug Out Bag, Get Home Bag, Survival Bag: My first attempt at a BOB.

There HAS to be a better video. This guy is driving me crazy! :facepalm:

I havent run across one where i agree 100% with the poster. This guy is OK

YouTube - Bug Out Bag - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P897uCGiC0k&feature=related


I still think that one of the best articles about BOB's is the one that Techno posted:
http://artofmanliness.com/2011/03/0...ur-72-hour-emergency-evacuation-survival-kit/

I dont agree with everything in his pack, but I really like how he broke the bag into 10 sub categories. If you take his categories and apply them to yourself, for your own bag, then I think what you end up with will be a well planned bag.

My only suggestion is to take the BOB out for a weekend excursion. Have a list printed with all of your bags contents. As you use the contents, check or circle them. If you wish you had something write it down on the list. When you get home check your list. What items did you actually use? What items were there, but just taking up space? What items did you wish you had?

Once you go over your bags items, make adjustments and take the BOB out again. Do the same thing, with the list. Eventually you will end up with a bag that is useful for you. My biggest problem at the moment is weight. I am a blade fanatic. I have 2 multi tools, 6 knives, and 2 machetes strapped to my pack. (not counting the 3 other knives I have on my person) I dont need that many blades and they are weighing the pack down, but for some reason, I cant let them go. They are a waste of space and also add to the weight of the bag, but they give me piece of mind. Eventually, I will drop most of the blades, but for the moment, they are my biggest problem.
 
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