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Hey mutt, why did you go with the .45 over the .40 or 9mm?


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Back when I was making good money, I collected guns. 52 handguns, 27 long guns, and 13 shotguns, all with ample amounts of ammo. I used to buy them cheap-usually from people who were hard up for cash. I decided to sell off most of the collection. The only handgun for carry that I kept, was the XD45 that my dad bought me for Christmas one year. Its probably the one gun I will always keep.

The reason I have 2, is because back at the beginning of February when my pops went into the hospital and I didnt think he was going to make it, I went around to all the local stores we go to, and was telling the people he wasnt doing good. At the little hunting/fishing store we go to, I was telling Terry, the owner and Vietnam Vet like my pops, that dad probably wont make it. As we were talking, I was looking in his case at the used guns. Like I said, he's a small shop and never has more than a dozen or so used guns, usually revolvers and stuff. Well the day I told Terry about pops, it just happened that an hour before, one of his customers dropped off an XD45 to sell on consignment. So I bought the 45 for my dad, so we could have matching guns.

I told him about the 45, and when he got out of the hospital, I gave him the gun. Unfortunately, since his last stroke he has lost strength in his left hand, so he can not slide the 45. I have it loaded, chambered and ready to roll for him in his room. We now have matching guns, even though he cant fire it without me chambering it for him.

The short version: My dad bought it for me.
 

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I don't know why, but I am just aesthetically attracted to older weapons. I would love to plink with this thing, but it really doesn't seem the best to carry in a zombie apocalypse.

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The .30 carbine wouldn't be the worst thing you could carry. It was originally designed to replace the 1911 as an officers 'side arm' and uses one of the original intermediate cartridges. It really does fall between pistol and rifle in terms of accuracy, range, and power though. Biggest drawback would be the one it's always had, finding ammo! I can still remember seeing carbines in barrels for $100 each because ammunition for them was almost non-existent at the time. Now there are larger supplies but it's still more expensive than it really should be for what it is. It's still lethal, but there are still too many more affordable options out there.
 

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Hey mutt, why did you go with the .45 over the .40 or 9mm?


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Looks like Mutt's reason was made for him so I'll share my reasons for choosing the XD45 over the other caliber choices.
I chose the compact 4" in .45acp because of stopping power capacity.
XD45 clips: compact 10rds full size 13rds
XD40 clips: compact 10rds full size 12rds (?!? why less ?!?)
XD9 clips: compact 13rds full size 16rds yes there are more rounds in a 9mm but each carries less knockdown or hydrostatic shock value than a .45acp

So I fell back on the old standard reply to the question "Why do you carry a .45?", "Because they don't make a .46".
I know they make a 1911 in .50 now but I can buy 4-5 XD's for the same price and don't have to worry about custom made parts!
 
Looks like Mutt's reason was made for him so I'll share my reasons for choosing the XD45 over the other caliber choices.
I chose the compact 4" in .45acp because of stopping power capacity.
XD45 clips: compact 10rds full size 13rds
XD40 clips: compact 10rds full size 12rds (?!? why less ?!?)
XD9 clips: compact 13rds full size 16rds yes there are more rounds in a 9mm but each carries less knockdown or hydrostatic shock value than a .45acp

So I fell back on the old standard reply to the question "Why do you carry a .45?", "Because they don't make a .46".
I know they make a 1911 in .50 now but I can buy 4-5 XD's for the same price and don't have to worry about custom made parts!

All good reasons. I did buy the Pearce grip extensions, so I have 2 extra rounds, making the 13 round a 15 round. I left the 2 10 round mags as 10 rounders just because personal defense ammo is sold in packs of 20 usually.

http://www.pearcegrip.com/Products/Springfield Armory/PG-XD45+
 
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Cool. I ended up getting rid of my .40's and my .45 due to the fact I didn't want to keep buying various calibers. 9mm should be abundant and I am very pleased with its performance. Plus once I get my CX4 I will have a carbine and pistols that not only use the same caliber but the same magazines to boot! Figured that would be a big plus in a SHTF scenario. Always like to hear what made people choose their firearms though.
 

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I don't know why, but I am just aesthetically attracted to older weapons. I would love to plink with this thing, but it really doesn't seem the best to carry in a zombie apocalypse.

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You ever make it down this way I will let you shoot a couple oldies but goodies.

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This one was my great Grandfathers. I still take it out and shoot it once in a blue moon.
 

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I had a chance to buy a carbine like that about 10 years ago. Dude owned an Army Navy store and took me in the back to show it to me lol. Probably would have jumped on it if it wasn't so sketchy. It's a riot model, right? I ended up buying a junked up 30 carbine at a gun show a couple of years later, just to have one. Neat gun, as I like the older ones too. One problem I noticed with the mags. They are seamed down the side, and it does not take to much to crush them apart. Other than that, it's fun to shoot when you've got some xtra cash laying around. Not a cheap weapon to fire.
 

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There isn't a better reason to keep a gun. Even though the rifles that I got from my grandpa aren't the best, they are to me, and I'll always have them. I got a couple offers that I could end up getting an AR15, a Ruger 22/45, and halfway to my bedside one when I decide, but I won't do it.

Here's a .45 that I wouldn't mind having. This one looks especially nice with the photography. WTS OR: Ruger Bisley Stainless Convertible with extras. Just because I'm looking for a semi-auto with the .22, I really do want a revolver for my personal defense weapon. I had taken a safety course to get a carry permit some years back, and we had to shoot various models/calibers during the course. I really preferred the balance and feel of most of the revolvers, and the action is just unbeatable as far as seeing/feeling the whole trigger pull.

The Enforcer is a nice weapon. The guy selling that one wants $600. Too much for me, for now. I need something shorter than 18" that will fit in a box beside my bed before I can start getting interesting items.

I would love to fire that rifle Muddy! Does it feel different when you fire it?
 

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There can be a fraction of a second lag with caps but flint is worse by far. I noticed you're looking at a 45/22, the main reason to pay the premium over a Mk II/III is if you have a 1911 style 'main' gun since it has the same grip angle and function. It's more like a trainer even if it doesn't look like a 1911. If you don't plan on picking up a 1911, and just want an inexpensive .22 pistol that's highly accurate, save the bucks and go with the cheaper model.
 

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You ever make it down this way I will let you shoot a couple oldies but goodies.

P8010098.jpg


This one was my great Grandfathers. I still take it out and shoot it once in a blue moon.

Is that a trapdoor Springfield? I'm not a total antique guru so I can't tell a conversion from an original (or any other civil war era) without eyeballing it in person.
 

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Springfield single shot rolling block 45/70.


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Are you just screwing with me? :D I couldn't tell from the pic if it was a 61 (black powder) or a 65/66 'cartridge conversion' with the front flipping block. The rolling blocks have the double hump and are in 45/70 while the springfields were either .58 muskets or 50/70 cartridge. I spent what seemed like forever trying to find a 45/70 1866 and came up with nothing! It's still a nice rifle but you had me running in circles for awhile trying to see if it was some rare prototype...
 

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There can be a fraction of a second lag with caps but flint is worse by far. I noticed you're looking at a 45/22, the main reason to pay the premium over a Mk II/III is if you have a 1911 style 'main' gun since it has the same grip angle and function. It's more like a trainer even if it doesn't look like a 1911. If you don't plan on picking up a 1911, and just want an inexpensive .22 pistol that's highly accurate, save the bucks and go with the cheaper model.

I had found the 45 model for sale rather cheap, so I had it fresh in my mind. I would pay a little more if it felt better in the hand too. The angle of the grip is really a lot different. I'm going to stop by a shop on my way home from work today and get them both in my hand, plus a good lot of others too.
 

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U.S Springfield model 1884. I will try and post some better pictures if you like. It has the it has the front flipping block.

I meant trap door, not rolling block....oops

Ha! I thought I saw a cleaning/ram rod on there and went way too early. The last trapdoor I saw was an early 1860 conversion and I thought all the trapdoors were to some extent. Goes to show how tight fisted the government was in those days! Take a stop gap measure, modify it a little and put it into full production with a couple tweaks and call it state of the art for 40 years... No, wait, M14 anyone?:laugh:
 

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Going to look at an XD9 Compact tomorrow after work. :facepalm: I have always told myself no 9mm, but the more I look at the number of people with them, the more I realize there will be a lot of ammo lying about for it when they get eaten. I'm going to plink a little at the guy's house to see what it feels like first.
 
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